https://twitter.com/FitzInfo/status/1764477244338995359Russia was Catholic at the time of her conversion (988). The apparent year of 1054 for the Greek schism was only between Constantinople and Rome, and Russia was still considered Catholic (albeit of the Byzantine variety until much later).
Very strange for a traditional Catholic to call Russia "Holy" and "Mother". Russia has never been Catholic, i.e never Holy.
Russia was Catholic at the time of her conversion (988). The apparent year of 1054 for the Greek schism was only between Constantinople and Rome, and Russia was still considered Catholic (albeit of the Byzantine variety until much later).Good to know.
On 15 December 1448, Jonah became Metropolitan of Kiev and All Rus' without the agreement of the Ecuмenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, which made the Metropolis of Kiev and all Rus' de facto independent. In response, in 1458 a rival Metropolitan Gregory the Bulgarian was appointed and consecrated by the Pope of Rome as the Byzantine Catholic Metropolitan of Kiev and all Rus'. Metropolitan Gregory was then recognised by Patriarch Dionysius I of Constantinople in 1466; since Constantinople maintained the Union with the Catholic Church until 1484, Kiev returned under Constantinople's jurisdiction. Dionysius therefore demanded in 1467 that all the hierarchs of the Muscovy submit to Gregory, but Moscow peremptorily refused. On the same year, Grand Prince Ivan III of Moscow declared a complete rupture of relations with the Patriarchate of Constantinople.
Russia was Catholic at the time of her conversion (988). The apparent year of 1054 for the Greek schism was only between Constantinople and Rome, and Russia was still considered Catholic (albeit of the Byzantine variety until much later).Thank you for the beautiful clarification Trento!
On 15 December 1448, Jonah became Metropolitan of Kiev and All Rus' without the agreement of the Ecuмenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, which made the Metropolis of Kiev and all Rus' de facto independent. In response, in 1458 a rival Metropolitan Gregory the Bulgarian was appointed and consecrated by the Pope of Rome as the Byzantine Catholic Metropolitan of Kiev and all Rus'. Metropolitan Gregory was then recognised by Patriarch Dionysius I of Constantinople in 1466; since Constantinople maintained the Union with the Catholic Church until 1484, Kiev returned under Constantinople's jurisdiction. Dionysius therefore demanded in 1467 that all the hierarchs of the Muscovy submit to Gregory, but Moscow peremptorily refused. On the same year, Grand Prince Ivan III of Moscow declared a complete rupture of relations with the Patriarchate of Constantinople.
https://twitter.com/FitzInfo/status/1764477244338995359
Very strange for a traditional Catholic to call Russia "Holy" and "Mother". Russia has never been Catholic, i.e never Holy.
Another Epic Fail in Taylor Marshall’s ‘Infiltration’ — Taylor Marshall write that Pope Saint Pius X was Polish in his book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. Does Marshall know how to do basic research much less use a search engine? How embarrassing!
Hey, Mark. This needs to be corrected … and I pointed it out before. St. Pius X was in fact Polish. His father was born in Poland but then immigrated to Italy, changing his Polish name to Sarto.
Ironically the statement above is “epic fail” and “embarrassing”.
I came across this assertion several years ago and did a bit of research and found out that the rumor is almost certainly false. Some suggest that the rumor, that Saint Pius X was Polish, was most likely started by the infamous Malachi Martin in his book “The Keys of this Blood" in 1990!
Neither claim has bee proven, but if you ask me, Pope St. Pius X looked more Polish than Italian.What does an Italian look like?
Martin did not start the rumor, as it goes back to some letters from a bishop in the 1930s. His father's baptismal certificate was not to be found in the area, nor was his birth certificate every located. At the time, the thought of a Pole becoming pope would not have been very popular with the Italians, and the more recent "research" had the motivation of not wanting to detract from Karol the Great Wojtyla's claim as the first Polish pope. There were quite a number of people in Poland who testified to their relationship.
Neither claim has bee proven, but if you ask me, Pope St. Pius X looked more Polish than Italian.
Do you have a reference for the letters from the bishop? It would seem that it would be common knowledge at the time if he was actually of Polish extraction when he was appointed a bishop or cardinal or even elected pope. It seems to me that it wouldn’t have mattered one bit to the saint as he didn’t want the office anyway, so the argument that a Pole becoming a pope would be inconsequential. Also, I did a word search in two of his biographies and the words Polish or Poland didn’t show up once.
He did look Polish, or more to the point, he didn't not look Polish. Neither did he look like one's stereotypical Italian (though there is great variation from north to south).
Always kind of reminds me of actor George Kennedy (Dragline in Cool Hand Luke, among many other roles).
What does an Italian look like?^^^This.
https://twitter.com/FitzInfo/status/1764477244338995359Agreed, but perhaps he's what I call a Fatimist (ie. one who takes Fatima to the level of dogma)?
Very strange for a traditional Catholic to call Russia "Holy" and "Mother". Russia has never been Catholic, i.e never Holy.
Agreed, but perhaps he's what I call a Fatimist (ie. one who takes Fatima to the level of dogma)?
"Fatimist" is a thing, so I know what you're talking about, BUT is there anything in the Fatima revelations that suggests that Russia is Holy or Mother Russia?I hear what you are saying. No, the Fatima revelations do not call Russia Holy nor Mother AFAIK. I admit that I do not know many details about Fatima including the "consecration of Russia", but it does seem like Fatimists look to Russia as being a key figure in the salvation of the world.
Even if one were to treat Fatima as Catholic dogma I mean?
Taylor Marshall has a myriad of issues. But his Russophilia can't be blamed on his Fatima devotion, excessive OR normal.
https://twitter.com/FitzInfo/status/1764477244338995359Russia is an Orthodox country. Therefore they call their church Holy Mother Church. Taylor is not KGB.
Very strange for a traditional Catholic to call Russia "Holy" and "Mother". Russia has never been Catholic, i.e never Holy.
but it does seem like Fatimists look to Russia as being a key figure in the salvation of the world.Our Lady did say that once Russia is consecrated, they will immediately convert...which then leads to world peace.
Our Lady did say that once Russia is consecrated, they will immediately convert...which then leads to world peace.
Some who have read the 3rd Secret, imply that Russia's conversion will help (in some way), to lead the world back to Catholicity. Maybe it's just through prayers/masses. Based on what Our Lady said (which admittedly, is very high-level), this idea is consistent with the Fatima timeline.
Our Lady did say that once Russia is consecrated, they will immediately convert...which then leads to world peace.OK, so then it could be that Taylor Marshall calls Russia "Holy Mother Russia" due to Fatima. He still shouldn't call it that, but it could explain why.
Some who have read the 3rd Secret, imply that Russia's conversion will help (in some way), to lead the world back to Catholicity. Maybe it's just through prayers/masses. Based on what Our Lady said (which admittedly, is very high-level), this idea is consistent with the Fatima timeline.
OK, so then it could be that Taylor Marshall calls Russia "Holy Mother Russia" due to Fatima. He still shouldn't call it that, but it could explain why.No, I don't think it has anything to do with Fatima. Russians have called their country "Mother Russia" for a long, long time. Adding "Holy" to the beginning (not sure when this started) is due to (my opinion) the resurgence of Orthodoxy, post-communism, and also due to the current political climate where the Orthodox East is fighting the satanic West. They call this East vs West a 'holy war'.
No, I don't think it has anything to do with Fatima. Russians have called their country "Mother Russia" for a long, long time. Adding "Holy" to the beginning (not sure when this started) is due to (my opinion) the resurgence of Orthodoxy, post-communism, and also due to the current political climate where the Orthodox East is fighting the satanic West. They call this East vs West a 'holy war'.So, Taylor Marshall is Russian? We're talking about why HE calls Russia "Holy Mother Russia". Why do you think he does? I agree with many others here that it is very odd for a so-called Traditional Catholic to do so.
We're talking about why HE calls Russia "Holy Mother Russia". Why do you think he does? I agree with many others here that it is very odd for a so-called Traditional Catholic to do so.
The term "Holy Russia" has been around for centuries.
Bright Russia
The Russian word for “holy” (sviatoi) is etymologically connected with the word “bright.” Both words are ancient, and the root of both goes back to an Indo-European antiquity. In other languages, there are similar words that mean “light,” or “world,” or “day,” as well as something white, pure, shining.
The contemporary Russian philosopher and cultural historian Valery Lepakhin notes that in old Russian epic poetry “Holy Rus” is equated with “the white (or wide) world” and “Mother Earth.” Take, for example, the call to arms of the most famous bogatyr from the epic poetry, Ilya Muromets:
Interestingly, the word “Rus” is also etymologically similar to the word “light.” After all, even contemporary Russian has preserved the old word “rusy” (light-haired). In 911, the Rus’ (“rusy”) signed a treaty with Byzantium (see my post on Prince Oleg the Farseer). The language of the treaty calls Prince Oleg “His Brightness.” An Arab chronicler of the tenth century, Ahman ibn Fadlan, in an otherwise unflattering portrayal of the Rus, mentions that one of their rulers had the title “bright prince.”
This association of “Russian” with “bright” remained inherent in the Russian language for a long time. Both Russians and Europeans called the Kingdom of Muscovy “White Russia.” Foreigners continued to use this term until the beginning of the 18th century. You can even find it on some European maps.
“The White Tsar” is praised often in Russian folk songs. Other European names for the Russian Tsar included “illustrissimus” (most illustrious, or bright) or even “albus” (white). From the 16th century on, he was called “the White Tsar” in the East as well. Tibetan monks named Nicholas II “the White Tsar.” (They believed he was a bodhisattva of the White Tara.)
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It sounds to me that the 'holy/bright' adjective is just a national-pride thing. Kindof like we in the USA say we're the "home of the brave".
One thing I really didn't like, and which makes me doubt everything else with regards to Marshall, is the stunt he pulled with the pachamama, acting like he had just gotten this footage from an unknown person, when in fact they knew each other and he himself had planned the whole thing. It doesn't bode well....
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I can't believe someone downvoted this post. I strongly agree that Taylor Marshall was deceptive in pretending not to know who threw the Pachamama into the river, when he himself orchestrated the whole thing, and yes, I think that shows us something about his character.
I have a poor opinion of people who carry out deceptions like that.
You have to be clever to be in the KGB....