Author Topic: Iran prevails in nuke deal - quality video interview (Read 1576 times)

PG · « **on:** July 15, 2015, 09:59:56 PM »

Joaquin flores is one of my favorite political commentators. He does a great job at explaining Iran and the middle east conflict. It is a 20 minute long interview.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2015, 10:31:01 PM »

Oh, what will the poor "evangelical" members of the Church of Hagee do now? Poor things. :rolleyes:

PG · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2015, 11:01:55 PM »

charlemagne - I am going to go out on a limb here and interpret your post as meaning you think joaquin is an evangelical hagee type because of his outward appearance(haircut and clothing). Because, outside of that, your post doesn't make any sense. Am I right?

If that is the case, then you probably stopped listening. But, because of that, you miss out on truly(take my word for it) top shelf free analysis that is actually coming from someone who is on the opposite end of the political spectrum you proposed(he is not a neocon). Joaquin actually lives in serbia. He left the usa because he opposes zionist america. And, he is either a catholic or a russian orthodox.

Give him a chance. Don't judge a book by its cover. Listen to the whole interview.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2015, 11:16:03 PM »

No, you're WAY off, but thanks for the thumbs-down (if you're the one who gave it to me). I DESPISE "evangelicals" in general and John Hagee in particular. I work with "evangelical" zionist nutjobs, and it's nauseating. And how does my post not make any sense? I agree with what Joaquin was saying, especially that "America is not the world," despite what American zionists believe. (And they consider "israel" and America to be one and the same, believe me. My boss actually has a license plate that shows the flag of "israel" blended with the Stars and Stripes.)

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2015, 12:06:15 AM »

I don't see a reason for Israel to get mad at it AT ALL.

Any talk of Iran wanting to wipe Israel off the map with nukes (which I am vehemently against for a multitude of reasons) is just hearsay. Iran knows that they would get the region destroyed with it if they tried.

Petertherock · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2015, 04:06:47 PM »

The problem is, Iran wants WW3. They want to issue in the reign of the 3rd Imam and this only happens after the Muslim world is on fire. Now another Mohammedan just shot up a Marine recruiting station in TN. He came from Kuwait.

What gets Obama mad? When a reporter asks him why he didn't secure the release of the 4 American hostages as part of the deal. Obama's answer was lecturing the reporter saying, "You know better than that!" Just before that comeback, Obama the traitor laughed at the suggestion that Obama was celebrating while not caring about the hostages. Obama said that we would have to have given too many more concessions to get the hostages releases as part of the deal. So, we are supposed to have had the position of strength, we are the ones that had the power to lift the sanctions or strengthen them, we had the power to tell Iran whether or not they could continue with their plans for nuclear "power." But instead, Osama bin Obama was leading from behind giving Iran all the concessions they wanted but getting nothing for it.

The Osama bin Obama administration along with John sKerry are dangerous and have set the stage for WW3 because of their glaring incompetence.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #6 on:** July 16, 2015, 05:09:58 PM »

"Israel" also wants WWIII because it thinks it has some claim to much more land than it does. That God-forsaken cesspool will do ANYTHING to have America fight its battles. After all, it's part of the "special relationship": "Israel" takes our billions, we fight its wars. The U.S. should just keep its nose out of overseas conflicts, but that'll never happen with D.C. version of the Knesset disguised as the "U.S. Congress."

Clemens Maria · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2015, 10:54:08 AM »

Pat Buchanan's take:

http://buchanan.org/blog/the-gops-iran-dilemma-16263

Petertherock · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2015, 03:01:05 PM »

This new deal with Iran only ensures there will be a war with Iran. In fact I can just hear that spineless John F'n Kerry chanting "Death to Americ!" with his Iranian friends. We had the position of strength in these negotiations and instead the US lead from behind and let Iran dictate what was going to happen.

Iran doesn't want ICBM's for Israel, they want them so they can nuke America. And Odumbo and sKerry just gave them everything they need to nuke us. At least Odumbo could have gotten our hostages released as part of this deal but with the traitors in the White House and the traitor secretary of state all they care about is giving Iran the nuke.

Matto · « **Reply #9 on:** July 18, 2015, 03:33:29 PM »

Quote from: Petertherock

Iran doesn't want ICBM's for Israel, they want them so they can nuke America. And Odumbo and sKerry just gave them everything they need to nuke us.

You sound like a neo-con nutcase. Do you happen to watch fox news regularly?

Petertherock · « **Reply #10 on:** July 18, 2015, 10:07:32 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: Petertherock
Iran doesn't want ICBM's for Israel, they want them so they can nuke America. And Odumbo and sKerry just gave them everything they need to nuke us.

You sound like a neo-con nutcase. Do you happen to watch fox news regularly?

You sound like an idiot. Do you watch Alex Jones regularly?

Matto · « **Reply #11 on:** July 18, 2015, 10:11:07 PM »

Quote from: Petertherock

Quote from: Matto
Quote from: Petertherock
Iran doesn't want ICBM's for Israel, they want them so they can nuke America. And Odumbo and sKerry just gave them everything they need to nuke us.

You sound like a neo-con nutcase. Do you happen to watch fox news regularly?

You sound like an idiot. Do you watch Alex Jones regularly?

I am not the one declaring that a country (that you probably know almost nothing about) wants to start a nuclear war which would lead to its own destruction as if that made sense and was likely. And no I do not watch Alex Jones.

Also I think you are lying when you say I sound like an idiot because I did not say anything that seemed stupid. I just think you are trying to declare your superiority.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2015, 02:21:04 AM »

The Islamophiles are out in force again. Now it's a good thing that the avowed enemies of Catholicism whose holy books command the destruction of the Church have nukes in their possession.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2015, 09:04:04 AM »

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Personally, I have the impression that this religion has used the Bible as a support to rebuild an archaic religion that is more powerful than all the others. It threatens to become an apocalyptic tool, the new face of the escalation to extremes. Even though there are no longer any archaic religions, it is as if a new one had arisen built on the back of the Bible, a slightly transformed Bible. It would be an archaic religion strengthened by aspects of the Bible and Christianity. Archaic religion collapsed in the face of ʝʊdɛօ-Christian revelation, but Islam resists. While Christianity eliminates sacrifice wherever it gains a foothold, Islam seems in many respects to situate itself prior to that rejection.

Of course, there is resentment in its attitude to ʝʊdɛօ-Christianity and the West, but it is also a new religion. Historians of religion, and even anthropologists, have to show how and why it emerged. Indeed, some aspects of this religion contain a relation to violence that we do not understand and that is all the more worrying for that reason. For us, it makes no sense to be ready to pay with one’s life for the pleasure of seeing the other die.

http://www.firstthings.com/article/2009/08/apocalypse-now

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2015, 09:10:48 AM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: Petertherock
Quote from: Matto
Quote from: Petertherock
Iran doesn't want ICBM's for Israel, they want them so they can nuke America. And Odumbo and sKerry just gave them everything they need to nuke us.

You sound like a neo-con nutcase. Do you happen to watch fox news regularly?

You sound like an idiot. Do you watch Alex Jones regularly?

I am not the one declaring that a country (that you probably know almost nothing about) wants to start a nuclear war which would lead to its own destruction as if that made sense and was likely. And no I do not watch Alex Jones.

Also I think you are lying when you say I sound like an idiot because I did not say anything that seemed stupid. I just think you are trying to declare your superiority.

Problem is: Islam is a suicidal religion. What do you think ѕυιcιdє attacks are about? The Islamic religion encourages it's followers to believe that it is worth dying if you can destroy an infidel in the process.