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Traditional Catholic Faith => World War III - Chapter 2 => Topic started by: Ladislaus on May 31, 2022, 09:40:14 AM
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https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/interview-priest-society-saint-josaphat-war-ukraine-73867
I think that the situation is hopeless for the Ukrainians until they understand the real culprits here.
This priest mentions the animosity between Russia and Ukraine going back to the Holodomor.
These people need to wake up. This is not Russia vs. Ukraine, but Jєω vs. both Russia and Ukraine. Holodomor was engineered by the Jєωs. 85-90% of the Bolsheviks who overthrew the Russian czars were Jєωs (and that's conservative due to the remaining 10-15% being "unknown").
Until they wake up to the fact that the Jєωs are the common enemy of both Russia and Ukraine, there's no hope for any of them.
Plus, this nonsense about how the consecration of Russia by Bergoglio was effective? Does he give such little credit to Our Lady?
If this is Ukrainian Traditionalism, they're pretty much lost.
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I even know one guy who attends Ukrainian Catholic church around here, and he's somewhat wise to the Jews (and their role in Bolshevism and WW2), but then refuses to talk about how Jew Soros and Victoria Jewland overthrew their government in 2014 and that the Jew oligarchs propped up the Jew Zelensky into power. When I bring these things up to him, his response was that "well, Zelensky is doing a really good job." :facepalm:
These people are hopeless.
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The Russian-Ukrainian confrontation did not start in 2014. We have a very long history of conflicts for centuries. Let us remember for example the act of genocide of our people in 1932-1933, when millions of Ukrainians died in the artificial famine.
The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church also underwent several stages of liquidation and bloody persecution by the Russian Empire and the communist regime. The last of them lasted in western Ukraine from 1946 to 1989, when our Church existed in deep underground conditions.
Until this priest wakes up to the fact that it's the Jєωs (rather than Russians per se) who did these things, there's no hope for them.
Americans admit that our government and economy have been taking over by the Jews. Why is this so hard for the Ukrainians to realize?
Their adherence primarily to their culture rather than to their faith is a problem. Lots of these Ukrainians would sooner go to a Ukrainian Orthodox church than a Roman Rite one (not due to objections to the NOM, etc.). I've known a few of them that have no problem switching back and forth between Ukrainian Catholic and Ukrainian Orthodox, and see no issue with it, because for them it's Ukraine first and the Catholic Church second.
I feel there can be a problem with these "national" churches along these lines, and I think that after the smoke clears the pope should eliminate a lot of these as autonomous entities and create a broader "Eastern Rite". Lots of schisms in Church history started with the excessive fragmentation along geographical lines. Pope St. Pius X was actually starting to do that. He ordered the Hungarian Byzantines, for instance, to switch to using Greek for their Liturgy (giving them about 10 years if I recall to make the transition), but he passed away shortly thereafter and this was never implemented.
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The situation will remain hopeless until they reject the Whore of Babylon aka the V2 religion. Otherwise they'll just continue to persist in the operation of error.
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The situation will remain hopeless until they reject the Whore of Babylon aka the V2 religion. Otherwise they'll just continue to persist in the operation of error.
Right. But these were Traditionalist Ukrainian Catholics, so they've already mostly done that. But there's a mental block there to the real dynamics taking place, as he mischaracterized it as Russia vs. Ukraine rather than Jєω vs. Goy.
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Their adherence primarily to their culture rather than to their faith is a problem. Lots of these Ukrainians would sooner go to a Ukrainian Orthodox church than a Roman Rite one (not due to objections to the NOM, etc.). I've known a few of them that have no problem switching back and forth between Ukrainian Catholic and Ukrainian Orthodox, and see no issue with it, because for them it's Ukraine first and the Catholic Church second.
Well, obviously anyone who does this or thinks it's okay doesn't have the Faith, and if the priest allows people to do this, he probably doesn't have the Faith either.
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Well, obviously anyone who does this or thinks it's okay doesn't have the Faith, and if the priest allows people to do this, he probably doesn't have the Faith either.
It's becoming more and more apparent these days that this is the problem among trads. It's certainly something I've come to worry about with myself.
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Is it fair to say that the SSPX is indirectly endorsing this perspective by publishing it on their websites (i.e., Would they publish an article they disagreed with)?
If so, what can one fairly read into such an endorsement?
I have my own thoughts, but they are speculative.
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It's becoming more and more apparent these days that this is the problem among trads.
Yeah, Yeti is becoming the male version of VCR...chastising and condemning everyone who isn't a "Trad" (however he defines it). This is not the charity that draws non-catholics to the Faith.
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Yeah, Yeti is becoming the male version of VCR...chastising and condemning everyone who isn't a "Trad" (however he defines it). This is not the charity that draws non-catholics to the Faith.
I was agreeing with him. Nothing he said was uncharitable, just an observation.
It's becoming apparent that our worldly concerns are overcoming our spiritual concerns as the noose tightens from TPTB. And God will allow us to lose our Faith if we let this happen.
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I even know one guy who attends Ukrainian Catholic church around here, and he's somewhat wise to the Jєωs (and their role in Bolshevism and WW2), but then refuses to talk about how Jєω Soros and Victoria Jєωland overthrew their government in 2014 and that the Jєω oligarchs propped up the Jєω Zelensky into power. When I bring these things up to him, his response was that "well, Zelensky is doing a really good job." :facepalm:
These people are hopeless.
This article is from 10 days after 9/11 (https://news.gallup.com/poll/4924/bush-job-approval-highest-gallup-history.aspx), when Bush 43's approval ratings were at 90% and support for the War on Terror was near-unanimous. That same article shows how presidents during wartime and national crises had immense support.
Zelensky is having that same moment right now, even among Ukrainian Catholics (who are ironically mostly from the Western oblast he lost in 2019). It's mostly war-time fervor.
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This article is from 10 days after 9/11 (https://news.gallup.com/poll/4924/bush-job-approval-highest-gallup-history.aspx), when Bush 43's approval ratings were at 90% and support for the War on Terror was near-unanimous. That same article shows how presidents during wartime and national crises had immense support.
Zelensky is having that same moment right now, even among Ukrainian Catholics (who are ironically mostly from the Western oblast he lost in 2019). It's mostly war-time fervor.
Yes, that makes sense. Combine war-time support for your government with strong pro-Ukrainian and anti-Russian nationalistic sentiment, and that explains some of the cognitive dissonance I've noticed in people. There is that "rah rah" and get on the bandwagon mentality in times of war or other crisis.
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Or perhaps this priest DID mention the Jєωιѕн problem and it's possible SSPX edited that out, as it's pretty much been verboten since the Bishop Williamson "scandal" to even mentioned the Tribe, and there was also that subsequent interrogation of Bishop Fellay about some of his past "anti-Semitic" comments. It's also quite possible that this priest KNOWS, but just is too afraid to speak of it in public. I posted polls on another thread where very high numbers of Eastern Europeans (mostly in Hungary and Poland) are aware of the Jєωιѕн problem.
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I was listening to the Remnant this morning. It is disgusting how Zelensky wants billions of American dollars. Zelensky wants 5 billion a month from USA. As they blame guns for violence here in USA & Canada, the USA is giving billions of our hard earned tax dollars dollars in weapons when they should be peaceful and stay neutral. DC is in constant state of treason. Biden takes the good Lord in vain as he does the work of the devil.
God tells us that if nations repent for their sins, God will show mercy and give peace.
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/5989-stooge-of-davos-biden-s-plan-to-ban-guns-and-legalize-this
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I was listening to the Remnant this morning. It is disgusting how Zelensky wants billions of American dollars.
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/5989-stooge-of-davos-biden-s-plan-to-ban-guns-and-legalize-this
What's worse is how the American politicians are willing to send them. In one sense, it's too late to be frugal, since the US debt is so high that we've crossed the "why even bother to try saving?" threshold. What's that saying?, that the last official act of any government is to loot the nation? We see quite a few politicians' families had financial interests in Ukraine, and Ukraine really had become a money-laundering operation for US politicians. If they send $40 billion to Ukraine, you can be sure that very large portions of that will end up lining both Zelensky's and the American politicians' pockets.
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Nothing he said was uncharitable, just an observation.
Yeti, I apologize. I took your comment the wrong way.
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I think Jewtin himself is a Jew, also one at 200 billion dollars of stolen wealth and a 700 million dollar yacht; and I'd only suggest the consideration of "administrative units" to cut through a subject like this.
Consider the affair as competing "administrative units". So many units applied from Jewtin's Kremlin and so many from his opponents. Money and vice rule the world today and its ultima ratio falls into administrative units.
It's like fruits. These fruits those fruits and administrative units by whatever system of measure.
As far as identity and difference, and administrative units, I don't believe "Pope" Francis can bless a golf ball much less consecrate Russia.
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If you read the interview carefully, it's apparent that most of the interviewee's info is second or thirdhand. So he in essence is little more credible than any other parrot of whatever social engineering is being pumped out by the "Elensky" regime. Interesting the comments about refugees though, for as of now 2 nations have felt the need to issue dress guidelines for (female) Ukrainian "refugees" - Sweden and Japan, neither of which are usually bothered about such things. Anyone care to guess why? (hint, their 2nd largest export besides wheat. Usually involves night shifts). It's all available on rt.com
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Zelensky shuts down NewsMax interviewer who tried to get him to say there would be no war if Trump were president ...
Newsmax is a right-wing outlet known for its support of Trump.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/zelenskyy-shuts-down-newsmax-interviewer-who-tried-to-get-him-to-say-there-would-be-no-war-if-trump-were-president/ar-AAXXeTe?ocid=uxbndlbing
Newsmax is a little bit "Schnitt Show" dodgy to me. I remember reading their magazine in Barnes and Noble one time, and there was an article about millenarian panics and the end of the world. Apocalypto and so forth. And they described a Roman Catholic "Council of 999" with some stupid pronouncements that didn't look good. It was an awkward posturing they wanted to put the Church in to make it look stupid.
There was no Council of 999. It was a total lie. Later I looked up Newsmax to see where they got their start-up monies and so forth, and back then I learned that their initial investment lump came from Kuwait. What does that mean? I don't know exactly, but they're suspicious to me as Neo-con hacks. The Neo-con hacks and Hegelian dialectics and Newsmax and Tucker Carlson, for example, insulting people's intelligence about the simple facts that 9-11 was a total and complete Inside Job! and also pulled off when the Jews run the USA, etc.
https://www.schnittshow.com/
Hegelian dialectics can get messy and convoluted. There's no truth in it really, just different sides.
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Russia Today News was started by a Jew. It's run by Jews too. I saw this docuмented by a researcher in his "tell-all" video, and I looked it up now by Jewgle but nothing came up as of now.
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(((https://www.rt.com/))) Jews again?! world economic forum world policy gubbament and all dat money and $%#!.
https://www.rt.com/news/556371-europe-demarcation-growing-conflict/
(https://i.imgur.com/CHpIK3u.png)
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RT's formation was part of a public relations effort by the Russian Government in 2005 to improve Russia's image abroad. RT was conceived by former media minister (((Mikhail Lesin))) and (((Aleksei Gromov))).
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Henry Kissinger, the Rothschilds and Sassoons, and Jewtin's Kremlin all be acting up like they wanna go "World Star". Like World Star Hip Hop and gangstas. Ain't nobody can tell them. Nobody can tell them time out or nuthin. But ev'body's equals n ev'body's gots to be somewheres.
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As I much as I have written against Russia, I emphatically state here again that I oppose the current ZOG of Ukraine. Plainly, I am an extreme reactionary, in that I believe that ALL of these governments of the "post-war" world order have to go. They are all enemies of Christ, submitting themselves to the arbitrary folly of the United Nations, instead of the Sacred Heart of the Word Incarnate. And because of that, they have assisted in the unparalleled spiritual and physical destruction of humanity that we are witness to today.
Since Ladislaus has claimed that the anti-Putinists here on CI have used thrown around the term "Dugin" and "Duginist" with no definition (despite my posting history proving the contrary), I again post a link to Thuletide's Primer on Duginism, which provides a clear definition with evidence concerning this key figure in Putin's Russia:
Duginism, a Primer (https://judaism.is/assets/a-primer-on-duginism.pdf)
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I think one possibility is that the local people are really susceptible to a effects of emotion fueled by the war itself and their own ethnicity pride. We can just sit at home and watch news and think about things objectively but they probably don't have that chance. Just imagine if it's UK attacking US right now, can most fellow trads stay sober and sit back instead of being carried away by "gooo fight the brits this is America"? (Even as we all know both countries are backed by the Jews and still we don't want anyone disturbing us)
Also not only them but the whole world receives either news and propaganda from Russian Jews or the Western Jews, so I don't think we can easily blame people's stupidity or so sliding into either position.