https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/interview-priest-society-saint-josaphat-war-ukraine-73867

I think that the situation is hopeless for the Ukrainians until they understand the real culprits here.

This priest mentions the animosity between Russia and Ukraine going back to the Holodomor.

These people need to wake up. This is not Russia vs. Ukraine, but Jєω vs. both Russia and Ukraine.  Holodomor was engineered by the Jєωs.  85-90% of the Bolsheviks who overthrew the Russian czars were Jєωs (and that's conservative due to the remaining 10-15% being "unknown").

Until they wake up to the fact that the Jєωs are the common enemy of both Russia and Ukraine, there's no hope for any of them.

Plus, this nonsense about how the consecration of Russia by Bergoglio was effective?  Does he give such little credit to Our Lady?

If this is Ukrainian Traditionalism, they're pretty much lost.

The Russian-Ukrainian confrontation did not start in 2014. We have a very long history of conflicts for centuries. Let us remember for example the act of genocide of our people in 1932-1933, when millions of Ukrainians died in the artificial famine.

The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church also underwent several stages of liquidation and bloody persecution by the Russian Empire and the communist regime. The last of them lasted in western Ukraine from 1946 to 1989, when our Church existed in deep underground conditions.

Until this priest wakes up to the fact that it's the Jєωs (rather than Russians per se) who did these things, there's no hope for them.

Americans admit that our government and economy have been taking over by the Jєωs.  Why is this so hard for the Ukrainians to realize?

Their adherence primarily to their culture rather than to their faith is a problem.  Lots of these Ukrainians would sooner go to a Ukrainian Orthodox church than a Roman Rite one (not due to objections to the NOM, etc.).  I've known a few of them that have no problem switching back and forth between Ukrainian Catholic and Ukrainian Orthodox, and see no issue with it, because for them it's Ukraine first and the Catholic Church second.

I feel there can be a problem with these "national" churches along these lines, and I think that after the smoke clears the pope should eliminate a lot of these as autonomous entities and create a broader "Eastern Rite".  Lots of schisms in Church history started with the excessive fragmentation along geographical lines.  Pope St. Pius X was actually starting to do that.  He ordered the Hungarian Byzantines, for instance, to switch to using Greek for their Liturgy (giving them about 10 years if I recall to make the transition), but he passed away shortly thereafter and this was never implemented.

The situation will remain hopeless until they reject the Whore of Babylon aka the V2 religion. Otherwise they'll just continue to persist in the operation of error.

Right.  But these were Traditionalist Ukrainian Catholics, so they've already mostly done that.  But there's a mental block there to the real dynamics taking place, as he mischaracterized it as Russia vs. Ukraine rather than Jєω vs. Goy.

Well, obviously anyone who does this or thinks it's okay doesn't have the Faith, and if the priest allows people to do this, he probably doesn't have the Faith either.

It's becoming more and more apparent these days that this is the problem among trads. It's certainly something I've come to worry about with myself.

It's becoming more and more apparent these days that this is the problem among trads.

Yeah, Yeti is becoming the male version of VCR...chastising and condemning everyone who isn't a "Trad" (however he defines it).  This is not the charity that draws non-catholics to the Faith.

I even know one guy who attends Ukrainian Catholic church around here, and he's somewhat wise to the Jєωs (and their role in Bolshevism and WW2), but then refuses to talk about how Jєω Soros and Victoria Jєωland overthrew their government in 2014 and that the Jєω oligarchs propped up the Jєω Zelensky into power.  When I bring these things up to him, his response was that "well, Zelensky is doing a really good job." 

These people are hopeless.

This article is from 10 days after 9/11, when Bush 43's approval ratings were at 90% and support for the War on Terror was near-unanimous. That same article shows how presidents during wartime and national crises had immense support. 

Zelensky is having that same moment right now, even among Ukrainian Catholics (who are ironically mostly from the Western oblast he lost in 2019). It's mostly war-time fervor.

Or perhaps this priest DID mention the Jєωιѕн problem and it's possible SSPX edited that out, as it's pretty much been verboten since the Bishop Williamson "scandal" to even mentioned the Tribe, and there was also that subsequent interrogation of Bishop Fellay about some of his past "anti-Semitic" comments.  It's also quite possible that this priest KNOWS, but just is too afraid to speak of it in public.  I posted polls on another thread where very high numbers of Eastern Europeans (mostly in Hungary and Poland) are aware of the Jєωιѕн problem.

I was listening to the Remnant this morning.  It is disgusting how Zelensky wants billions of American dollars. 

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/5989-stooge-of-davos-biden-s-plan-to-ban-guns-and-legalize-this

What's worse is how the American politicians are willing to send them.  In one sense, it's too late to be frugal, since the US debt is so high that we've crossed the "why even bother to try saving?" threshold.  What's that saying?, that the last official act of any government is to loot the nation?  We see quite a few politicians' families had financial interests in Ukraine, and Ukraine really had become a money-laundering operation for US politicians.  If they send $40 billion to Ukraine, you can be sure that very large portions of that will end up lining both Zelensky's and the American politicians' pockets.