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Offline jman123

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Hypothetical war with Russia
« on: June 21, 2016, 07:04:07 PM »
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  • Things between NATO and Russia are pretty bad. I think the west wants to effect a regime change there.  What would you expect from a military confrontation by NATO vs Russia? NATO has said in past that Russia is weak and would back down if the going got tough.  How would you rate NATO vs Russia in terms of strength both physically and spiritually?


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    Hypothetical war with Russia
    « Reply #1 on: June 21, 2016, 10:06:23 PM »
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  • NATO and the US would lose badly.  The military has been feminized with
    women now on the front lines. gαys and lesbians are now accepted. On
    military bases there are gαy parades and drag queens. All new recruits if they
    want to stay will have to accept gαy lifestyles. Just makes me sick.

    Trolling for War with Russia by Patrick J. Buchanan posted 6-21-2016

    Some 50 State Department officials have signed a memo calling on President Obama to launch air and missile strikes on the Damascus regime of Bashar Assad.

    A "judicious use of stand-off and air weapons," they claim, "would undergird and drive a more focused and hard-nosed U.S.-led diplomatic process."

    In brief, to strengthen the hand of our diplomats and show we mean business, we should start bombing and killing Syrian soldiers.

    Yet Syria has not attacked us. And Congress has not declared war on Syria, or authorized an attack. Where do these State hawks think President Obama gets the authority to launch a war on Syria?

    Does State consider the Constitution to be purely advisory when it grants Congress the sole power to declare war? Was not waging aggressive war the principal charge against the nαzιs at Nuremberg?

    If U.S. bombs and missiles rain down on Damascus, to the cheers of the C-Street Pattons, what do we do if Bashar Assad’s allies Iran and Hezbollah retaliate with Benghazi-type attacks on U.S. diplomats across the Middle East? What do we do if Syrian missiles and Russian planes starting shooting down U.S. planes?

    Go to war with Hezbollah, Iran and Russia?

    Assume U.S. strikes break Syria’s regime and Assad falls and flees. Who fills the power vacuum in Damascus, if not the most ruthless of the terrorist forces in that country, al-Nusra and ISIS?

    Should ISIS reach Damascus first, and a slaughter of Alawites and Christians ensue, would we send an American army to save them?

    According to CIA Director John Brennan, ISIS is spreading and coming to Europe and America. Does it make sense then that we would launch air and missile strikes against a Syrian regime and army that is today the last line of defense between ISIS and Damascus?

    Does anyone think these things through?

    Wherever, across the Middle East, we have plunged in to wage war – Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria – people continue to suffer and die, and we are ensnared.

    Have we not fought enough wars in this Godforsaken region?

    Last week, Russian planes launched air strikes on the rebels in Syria whom we have been arming and training to overthrow Assad.

    Said John Kerry, "Russia needs to understand that our patience is not infinite." But why are we arming rebels to overthrow Assad?

    Who rises if he falls? Moscow’s alliance with Damascus goes back decades. Syria provides Russia with a naval base in the Mediterranean. Vladimir Putin’s support for the embattled Syrian regime in the cινιℓ ωαr being waged against it is legal under international law.

    It is our policy that appears questionable.

    Where did Obama get the right to arm and train rebels to dump over the Damascus regime? Did Congress authorize this ιnѕυrrєcтισn? Or is this just another CIA-National Endowment for Democracy project?

    Why are we trying to bring down Assad, anyhow?

    U.S. foreign policy today seems unthinking, reactive, impulsive.

    Last week, 31,000 NATO troops conducted exercises in Poland and the Baltic republics, right alongside the border with Russia.

    For the first time since 1945, German tanks appeared in Poland.

    Now we are planning to base four NATO battalions – one U.S.-led, one British, one German, and perhaps one Canadian, as the French and Italians are balking at being part of a tripwire for war.

    How would we react if 31,000 Russian, Chinese, Cuban, Iranian and North Korean troops conducted military exercises across from El Paso and Brownsville, Texas?

    How would we react if each of those countries left behind a battalion of troops to prevent a repeat of General "Black Jack" Pershing’s intervention in Mexico in 1916?

    Americans would be apoplectic.

    Nor are some Europeans enthusiastic about confronting Moscow.

    German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier called the NATO exercises "warmongering" and "saber-rattling." He adds, "Anyone who believes that symbolic tank parades on the alliance’s eastern border will increase security is wrong. We would be well-advised not to deliver any excuses for a new, old confrontation."

    Not only is Steinmeier’s Social Democratic Party leery of any new Cold War with Russia, so, too, is the German Left Party, and the anti-EU populist party Alternative for Germany, which wants closer ties to Russia and looser ties to the United States.

    This month, we sent the USS Porter into the Black Sea. Why? Says Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, "to deter potential aggression."

    While there is talk of a NATO Black Sea fleet, Bulgaria, one of the three NATO Black Sea nations, appears to want no part of it.

    The European Union also just voted to extend sanctions on Russia for annexing Crimea and supporting separatists in Ukraine.

    Donald Trump calls the NATO alliance a rip-off, a tripwire for World War III and "obsolete." Hillary Clinton compares Putin’s actions in Ukraine to Hitler’s actions in Germany in the early 1930s.

    Looking for a four-year faceoff with a nuclear-armed Russia?

    Hillary’s the one!

    Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of Churchill, Hitler, and “The Unnecessary War”: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World. To find out more about Patrick Buchanan and read features by other Creators writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Web page at www.creators.com.

    COPYRIGHT 2014 CREATORS.COM

    Read more by Patrick J. Buchanan
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    Why Russia Resents Us – May 2nd, 2016
    America’s Imperial Overstretch – April 14th, 2016
    Is Trump Right About NATO? – March 28th, 2016
    The Sea Island Conspiracy – March 10th, 2016




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    Hypothetical war with Russia
    « Reply #2 on: June 22, 2016, 07:24:00 PM »
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  • Tensions Between US/NATO & Russia Are Flaring Dangerously

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    “As if there weren’t enough crises to worry about in the world already, from shooting rampages to accelerating species loss, the US and NATO continue to ‘poke the bear’ and risk an outbreak of war with Russia.

    I wish this were idle speculation. But if you haven’t been paying close attention, you’ll probably be shocked at just how much direct military and diplomatic provocation has been going on between NATO/US and Russia over the past several years — and in recent weeks, in particular.

    Even more shocking is that no one in power can provide us with a compelling reason for exactly why these tensions are flaring. It seems that Russia’s main sin is in not entirely, completely and immediately giving the US/NATO anything and everything they request.

    In other words, it’s imperial hubris and petulance that seems to be driving the ship of state. That’s a dangerous thing.

    I’ve written extensively on the dangers of war with Russia as my concerns have mounted ever since the situation in Ukraine devolved in 2014.

    There have been plenty of chances to dial down the rhetoric and mend fences, but they’ve all come and gone without healing. In fact, as we detail below, quite the opposite has happened.

    The bottom line is this: If you’re not already mentally and physically prepared for the prospect of a NATO/US war with Russia, you really should be.”

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    Hypothetical war with Russia
    « Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 09:50:47 AM »
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    Hypothetical war with Russia
    « Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 10:26:23 AM »
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  • im of the opinion that there are so many proxy wars, Shadow operations, and concealed politics going on that there is little to nothing we can do to see what's coming. You'll just be driving to the grocery store one morning when you start hearing the emergency broadcast and start seeing missile and jet contrails I the sky. Then you'll firmly know it's begun.


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    Hypothetical war with Russia
    « Reply #5 on: June 23, 2016, 10:43:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: Oath Keeper
    im of the opinion that there are so many proxy wars, Shadow operations, and concealed politics going on that there is little to nothing we can do to see what's coming. You'll just be driving to the grocery store one morning when you start hearing the emergency broadcast and start seeing missile and jet contrails I the sky. Then you'll firmly know it's begun.


    Just enough time to say one good act of contrition.

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    Hypothetical war with Russia
    « Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 10:50:05 AM »
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  • There will never be any winners in a WW3.  Our ruling elites have a
    "Jonestown Mentality". If they do not get their one world government,
    they will take all us and themselves down.
    A famous Jєωιѕн guy once said that WW4 will be fought with sticks and
    stones.

    My 3,800 Post