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Offline Shrewd Operator

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Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
« on: May 27, 2022, 04:47:10 PM »
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    Offline epiphany

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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #1 on: May 27, 2022, 05:09:02 PM »
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    • The idiot calls Williamson:
    "an Archbishop speaking from the Altar in the Church of England..."
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #2 on: May 27, 2022, 05:22:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on May 27, 2022, 05:09:02 PM
    The idiot calls Williamson:
    "an Archbishop speaking from the Altar in the Church of England..."
    He doesn't source or fact-check a damn thing. I wouldn't expect him to get this one right either.
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #3 on: May 27, 2022, 05:25:25 PM »
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    • His Excellency’s endorsement of Putin is a big huge humongous gigantic MASSIVE fumble.

    Why choose sides? Putin’s a slave of the Jєωs and he sucks for Catholics and so do his enemies so why can’t I just dislike both and be an enemy to both?

    It’s like being told to choose whether dying by firing squad is better than suffocating or burning to death. Sure, I can see the point but I am not a fan of the premise. :fryingpan:
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #4 on: May 27, 2022, 05:49:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Sir Percival on May 27, 2022, 05:25:25 PM
    His Excellency’s endorsement of Putin is a big huge humongous gigantic MASSIVE fumble.

    Why choose sides? Putin’s a slave of the Jєωs and he sucks for Catholics and so do his enemies so why can’t I just dislike both and be an enemy to both?

    It’s like being told to choose whether dying by firing squad is better than suffocating or burning to death. Sure, I can see the point but I am not a fan of the premise. :fryingpan:
    Careful with that completely true statement, there's some around here who have fallen into the trap of Team Russia vs. Team Globohomo

    Quote from: epiphany on May 27, 2022, 05:09:02 PM
    The idiot calls Williamson:
    "an Archbishop speaking from the Altar in the Church of England..."
    Hal Turner is terrible. Why does anyone listen to this guy?
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #5 on: May 27, 2022, 06:13:14 PM »
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    • He doesn't cite anything... That is day 1, hour 1, class 1 of writing classes, period.

    And ever since I found out that he wrote things that genuinely put people in danger, he's been on my "avoid" list.
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #6 on: May 27, 2022, 07:17:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Sir Percival on May 27, 2022, 05:25:25 PM
    His Excellency’s endorsement of Putin is a big huge humongous gigantic MASSIVE fumble.

    Why choose sides? Putin’s a slave of the Jєωs and he sucks for Catholics and so do his enemies so why can’t I just dislike both and be an enemy to both?

    It’s like being told to choose whether dying by firing squad is better than suffocating or burning to death. Sure, I can see the point but I am not a fan of the premise. :fryingpan:
    Putin needed a trad Catholic endorsement and +W needed the publicity.  :facepalm:
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #7 on: May 27, 2022, 08:22:37 PM »
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    • Lawyer: FBI Paid Right-Wing Blogger Charged With Threats

     "[Hal Turner] was secretly an FBI “agent provocateur” paid to disseminate right-wing rhetoric, his attorney said Wednesday. "
    https://www.wired.com/2009/08/lawyer-fbi-paid-right-wing-blogger-charged-with-threats/
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #8 on: May 28, 2022, 09:22:49 AM »
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    • Everyone knows Hal was an FBI informant and ATTF member. That didn't stop the FEDS from throwing him in jail for 2 years. All this proves is that he probably has great animus towards TPTB in the government that did that to him, but also that he still maintains great insider connections and info.

    Re: Bishop Williamson being an "Archbishop from the Church of England"- Hal probably is only aware of the Bishop from the tweet. At least he acknowledged the Bishop, however poorly, which is a heck of a lot more that any Vatican or NO venue will do. You will be surprised the reach that short video will get- maybe  even some converts. (see today's Eleison Comments)
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #9 on: May 28, 2022, 09:27:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on May 27, 2022, 07:17:55 PM
    Putin needed a trad Catholic endorsement and +W needed the publicity.  :facepalm:

    More of your active imagination at work.  Never has Bishop Williamson said things just to seek publicity.  He's been very consistent about supporting Putin, and his support is sincere.  And why would Putin care about a Trad Cath endorsement?  From his perspective, this is just tiny sect offshoot of Roman Catholicism.
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #10 on: May 28, 2022, 10:11:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 28, 2022, 09:27:11 AM
    More of your active imagination at work.  Never has Bishop Williamson said things just to seek publicity.  He's been very consistent about supporting Putin, and his support is sincere.  And why would Putin care about a Trad Cath endorsement?  From his perspective, this is just tiny sect offshoot of Roman Catholicism.

    You are on a roll, friend, and see the matter with great perspicacity.

    Thank you for your efforts in rebutting these smear campaigns.
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #11 on: May 28, 2022, 10:27:53 AM »
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    • Well, they think that just throwing the term "Opus Dei" out there proves their narrative, just as the anti-Putinites throw "Dugin" and "Duginism" out there.  Great.  "Opus Dei" is not good.  Where's the evidence that +Vigano is an OD agent other than that he knows a couple people who happen to be in OD?  Where's a credible Cui bono?  Any decent conspiracy theory must establish a credible cui bono? even to qualify as a conspiracy theory.  As I said, I've known people in OD myself.  Ah, that must be why I'm defending +Vigano, because I'm part of the consiracy since I knew some guys who were in OD (and I rejected their invitations to come check them out).

    This reminds me of the narrative about Bishop Williamson being a Rosicrucian.  Could he be?  I suppose it's theoretically possible.  But where's the evidence beside a "rose and a cross" on his coat of arms?  I guess St. Therese was a Rosicrucian also, because she's always dected with a cross or crucifix surrounded by roses.
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #12 on: May 28, 2022, 12:27:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 28, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
    Well, they think that just throwing the term "Opus Dei" out there proves their narrative, just as the anti-Putinites throw "Dugin" and "Duginism" out there.  Great.  "Opus Dei" is not good.  Where's the evidence that +Vigano is an OD agent other than that he knows a couple people who happen to be in OD?  Where's a credible Cui bono?  Any decent conspiracy theory must establish a credible cui bono? even to qualify as a conspiracy theory.  As I said, I've known people in OD myself.  Ah, that must be why I'm defending +Vigano, because I'm part of the consiracy since I knew some guys who were in OD (and I rejected their invitations to come check them out).

    This reminds me of the narrative about Bishop Williamson being a Rosicrucian.  Could he be?  I suppose it's theoretically possible.  But where's the evidence beside a "rose and a cross" on his coat of arms?  I guess St. Therese was a Rosicrucian also, because she's always dected with a cross or crucifix surrounded by roses.

    Agreed.

    You’d think that if someone was going to make those kinds of allegations, they’d be able to point to some unorthodox doctrinal statements within Viganò’s many writings to support the controlled resistance narrative.

    Instead, one person objected to his appearance at a certain political rally last year, another objected to what he isn’t saying, and a third doesn’t reference his writings at all.

    So it would seem that the reason we’re all supposed to reject the traditional  antidote Vigano is injecting into the conciliar disease is...what, exactly?

    Hardly anyone outside of the Novus Ordo Watch orbit has made any doctrinal objection to anything he’s said, and even on this forum, most sedes (of whatever stripe) like what he’s saying.

    I’m just not sure why anyone has a problem with him (consecration notwithstanding).

    Hell, if Opus Judei actually taught what Vigano is teaching, they’d be traditionalists too.

    The old maxim is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    But here, there isn’t any evidence at all.

    To me, the opposition is a head scratcher, and so far as NOW is concerned, I can’t help thinking that whatever they say on their website, there’s plenty of Nicodemus’s among them too.
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #13 on: May 28, 2022, 12:39:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 28, 2022, 09:27:11 AM
    More of your active imagination at work.  Never has Bishop Williamson said things just to seek publicity.  He's been very consistent about supporting Putin, and his support is sincere.  And why would Putin care about a Trad Cath endorsement?  From his perspective, this is just tiny sect offshoot of Roman Catholicism.
    But what if Putin thinks Williamson is "an Archbishop speaking from the Altar in the Church of England..."?
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    Re: Hal Turner put up a link to Bishop Williamson statement on Ukraine conflict
    « Reply #14 on: May 28, 2022, 01:44:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on May 28, 2022, 12:39:55 PM
    But what if Putin thinks Williamson is "an Archbishop speaking from the Altar in the Church of England..."?

    Only Hal Turner thinks that ... probably just doesn't know the difference.  He just saw a bishop speaking from England with a British accent.
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