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Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
« on: September 28, 2022, 08:44:26 AM »
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  • This clip from January 2022 - our old friend ((((Vicki Nuland)))


    https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/1486818088016355336


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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #1 on: September 28, 2022, 08:50:34 AM »
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  • This was posted in another thread and is a very interesting piece of information.


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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #2 on: September 28, 2022, 08:52:34 AM »
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  • And, if by Satan you mean the Jєωs ... who else?  Did we even need to ask?

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    « Reply #3 on: September 28, 2022, 08:53:21 AM »
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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #4 on: September 28, 2022, 09:00:38 AM »
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  • US has declared war on Europe- Gonzala Lira



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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #5 on: September 28, 2022, 10:56:19 AM »
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  • ANALYSIS: Nord Stream Pipelines Sabotaged, and Only One Country Benefits (thegatewaypundit.com)

    First, the US became the number one exporter of liquified natural gas to Europe once Russia cut off the flow. German dependence on US LNG is a carrot to keep German in the sanction alliance. With winter approaching and German unrest on the rise, the State Department would have been concerned the Germans would go wobbly, reduce sanctions, cut off arms to Ukraine, and beg Putin for energy. The loss of the Nord Stream pipelines eliminates that path to renewed gas imports to Germany.

    Second, the Biden family has long been tangled up in natural gas and Ukraine. Hunter Biden was on the board of Ukraine’s largest natural gas company—a position that provided Ukrainian oligarchs with access to Joe Biden. Hunter, who has no experience in energy, made millions from the deal, and Ukraine got a bought-and-paid-for President of the United States.

    Third, the Democrat Biden needs to stanch the popularity bleeding that threatens to kill Democrat control of Congress come November.
    So, only the United States has a compelling reason to destroy Europe’s energy lifeline from Russia. Only the United States has both the means and the motive.

    But what about opportunity?


    Operation BALTOPS 22: June 2022
    Seapower magazine—the official magazine of the Navy League—reported in June on a US exercise in the Baltic Sea, directly over the spots where two massive, undersea explosions took out the Nord Stream pipeline.




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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #6 on: September 28, 2022, 11:12:34 AM »
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  • Third, the Democrat Biden needs to stanch the popularity bleeding that threatens to kill Democrat control of Congress come November.
    So, only the United States has a compelling reason to destroy Europe’s energy lifeline from Russia. Only the United States has both the means and the motive.

    But what about opportunity?


    Operation BALTOPS 22: June 2022
    Seapower magazine—the official magazine of the Navy League—reported in June on a US exercise in the Baltic Sea, directly over the spots where two massive, undersea explosions took out the Nord Stream pipeline.
    I'm not convinced this is the case, because the Russian aggression has greatly aided Germany in its efforts to find alternatives. The people shouting the loudest about America being the enemy of Europe are the usual suspects, e.g. National Bolsheviks, Russophiles, etc. The truth actually being that the loss of NATO would be a major blow to the US Military, even if it is the one that "carries" the rest of them. The resources afforded from the alliance create too powerful a force for Russia+China to defeat easily.

    It was part of the old Soviet strategy to destroy NATO: dissolve NATO, isolate the US. In fact, it was supposedly the dissolution of NATO overnight that would be the signal for WWIII. Now we see Catholics here posting the propaganda making the push for this same purpose: destroy NATO. Even without considering the Perestroika Deception thesis, driving the wedge between America and Europe would give China a much easier time in overcoming the West. Once the new Eastern Bloc has removed Pax Americana, a very different world order will emerge to the detriment of the world.

    Like I posted in the other thread, this couldn't have happened at a better time for Putin. His popularity is shot. Even his own Russian media sources are beginning to denounce him and the war effort. Young men are fleeing the country and burning recruitment offices. Having the American bogeyman is the best thing he could have hoped for, but I think we know that no rational actor was behind this decision. WWIII is bought and paid for already.

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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #7 on: September 28, 2022, 02:53:19 PM »
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  • This was posted in another thread and is a very interesting piece of information.
    Oops- sorry. I hate to repeat a thread. My bad


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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #8 on: September 28, 2022, 04:52:40 PM »
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  • Is he stupid or not? The USA is run by the Jєωs. There is George Washington and Abdel Nasser and then there are the Jєωs. Neither George Washington nor Abdel Nasser run the USA. If he wants to talk about America like this, he needs to start spitting the facts out about the Jєωs or shut up. Is he Red pill Red shill?

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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #9 on: September 28, 2022, 07:49:01 PM »
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  • ANALYSIS: Nord Stream Pipelines Sabotaged, and Only One Country Benefits (thegatewaypundit.com)

    First, the US became the number one exporter of liquified natural gas to Europe once Russia cut off the flow. German dependence on US LNG is a carrot to keep German in the sanction alliance. With winter approaching and German unrest on the rise, the State Department would have been concerned the Germans would go wobbly, reduce sanctions, cut off arms to Ukraine, and beg Putin for energy. The loss of the Nord Stream pipelines eliminates that path to renewed gas imports to Germany.

    Second, the Biden family has long been tangled up in natural gas and Ukraine. Hunter Biden was on the board of Ukraine’s largest natural gas company—a position that provided Ukrainian oligarchs with access to Joe Biden. Hunter, who has no experience in energy, made millions from the deal, and Ukraine got a bought-and-paid-for President of the United States.

    Third, the Democrat Biden needs to stanch the popularity bleeding that threatens to kill Democrat control of Congress come November.
    So, only the United States has a compelling reason to destroy Europe’s energy lifeline from Russia. Only the United States has both the means and the motive.

    But what about opportunity?


    Operation BALTOPS 22: June 2022
    Seapower magazine—the official magazine of the Navy League—reported in June on a US exercise in the Baltic Sea, directly over the spots where two massive, undersea explosions took out the Nord Stream pipeline.
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tucker-carlson-biden-admin-may-have-blown-up-gas-pipelines-in-baltic-sea/
    Tucker Carlson: Biden admin ‘may have blown up’ gas pipelines in Baltic Sea


    ‘Blow up the Nord Stream pipelines? Okay, we’ve entered a new phase. One in which the United States is directly at war with the largest nuclear power in the world.’
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    (LifeSiteNews) – Tucker Carlson strongly insinuated on his on Tuesday that the Biden administration may be responsible for blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline in the Baltic Sea and that this would lead to war between the U.S. and Russia. 

    “If they did this, it would be one of the craziest, most destructive things any American administration has ever done, but it would also be totally consistent with what they do,” and this would mean that “the United States is directly at war with the largest nuclear power in the world,” according to Carlson.

    Detonations in the Baltic Sea on Monday, September 27, caused massive damage to the two major gas pipelines between Russia and Germany called Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2. Most experts believe that this was a deliberate, targeted attack on the pipelines. 
    Carlson quoted Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki who called the incident an “act of sabotage.”

    He ridiculed the mainstream media for speculating that Russian President Vladimir Putin is responsible for the attack and said “Vladimir Putin may be evil […] but is he stupid? Probably isn’t stupid.”

    Elaborating on his point that Russia would be an unlikely perpetrator, Carlson said that “If you are Vladimir Putin, you would have to be a suicidal moron to blow up your own energy pipelines,” and “Natural gas pipelines are the main source of your power and your wealth and most critically your leverage over other countries.” 

    Carlson went on to say that while blowing up Nord Stream does not help Vladimir Putin, other countries would have considered destroying the pipelines, citing President Joe Biden’s statements from this February.

    RELATED: US gov’t suspected of sabotaging major European gas pipeline after Biden threatened to ‘end’ it




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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #10 on: September 28, 2022, 08:22:48 PM »
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  • Tucker says, "but it would also be totally consistent with what they do".

    Who's "they"? What sort of predication does he have here? It was the Democrats? That's it. That's how it happened. It was the liberals and the Democrats ...


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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #11 on: September 28, 2022, 08:46:44 PM »
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  • “We Jєωs, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you do will meet our needs and demands. We will for ever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build. Beyond all temporary alliances with this or that faction lies the ultimate split in nature and destiny, the enmity between the Game and God. But those of us who fail to understand that truth will always be found in alliance with your rebellious factions, until disillusionment comes. The wretched fate which scattered us through your midst has thrust this unwelcome rôle upon us.” (p. 155)

    It's just a writer Maurice Samuel, so don't expect it all to make so much sense.

    https://www.islam-radio.net/islam/english/jracism/you-gentiles-samuel-quotes.htm

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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #12 on: September 28, 2022, 09:35:40 PM »
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  • I'm not convinced this is the case, because the Russian aggression has greatly aided Germany in its efforts to find alternatives. The people shouting the loudest about America being the enemy of Europe are the usual suspects, e.g. National Bolsheviks, Russophiles, etc. The truth actually being that the loss of NATO would be a major blow to the US Military, even if it is the one that "carries" the rest of them. The resources afforded from the alliance create too powerful a force for Russia+China to defeat easily.

    It was part of the old Soviet strategy to destroy NATO: dissolve NATO, isolate the US. In fact, it was supposedly the dissolution of NATO overnight that would be the signal for WWIII. Now we see Catholics here posting the propaganda making the push for this same purpose: destroy NATO. Even without considering the Perestroika Deception thesis, driving the wedge between America and Europe would give China a much easier time in overcoming the West. Once the new Eastern Bloc has removed Pax Americana, a very different world order will emerge to the detriment of the world.

    Like I posted in the other thread, this couldn't have happened at a better time for Putin. His popularity is shot. Even his own Russian media sources are beginning to denounce him and the war effort. Young men are fleeing the country and burning recruitment offices. Having the American bogeyman is the best thing he could have hoped for, but I think we know that no rational actor was behind this decision. WWIII is bought and paid for already.



    See, this is an example your being irrational about this subject.  There's evidence of US ships in the area that suddenly disappeared off the tracking sites right before this happened.

    There's absolute zero motivation for Putin to sabotage the pipelines.  This was clearly the US/Israel, and for the reasons stated.  Germany has been hit very hard economically due to the gas shortage and were showing signs of cracking and trying to work out a deal with Russia.  That had to be stopped, and so the US/Israel stopped it.  Your contempt for Putin is off the charts to the point that you're not thinking clearly.

    US is clearly already the bogeyman and no one in Russia is under any illusion that the US/NATO have been actively involved in Ukraine and killing Russian soldiers pretty much the entire time.  If Putin really wanted a fαℓѕє fℓαg, it would be something much more dramatic than a pipeline blowing up, and then they would make sure the US got implicated instead of leaving it open to speculation.  They could blow something up near the Ukrainian border and claim it was some US weapon that did it.  If this is a fαℓѕє fℓαg, then it's got to be the lamest fαℓѕє fℓαg in the history of fαℓѕє fℓαgs.

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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #13 on: September 28, 2022, 09:40:51 PM »
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  • Launch of the Baltic Pipe

    27 September 2022



    https://ec.europa.eu/info/news/launch-baltic-pipe-2022-sep-27_en



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    Today, the Baltic Pipe was inaugurated at an opening ceremony in Goleniów, Poland. The event marks the end of the process of the Baltic Pipe construction, a key route to carry gas from Norway through Denmark to Poland and neighbouring countries. The Baltic Pipe will make it possible to import up to 10 billion cubic metres (bcm) of gas annually from Norway to Poland and to transport 3 bcm of gas from Poland to Denmark. The start of gas transmission is planned for 1 October 2022.

    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    Re: Guess who bombed Nordstream l and ll?
    « Reply #14 on: September 28, 2022, 09:45:52 PM »
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  • Even the stauncly anti-Putin Polish Defense Minister attributes this to the US.

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    Speculations were further amplified when a former Polish Defense Minister and current member of the European Parliament, Radek Sikorski, tweeted “Thank you, USA.”, alongside a picture of the water surface above one of the gas leaks.

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    Tucker Carlson also commented on the incident on his Tuesday show, saying that it would be “stupid” for Russian President Vladimir Putin to blow up his own gas pipeline since Europe needs the gas and it is Russia’s biggest leverage against Europe. “Under these circuмstances, there is no chance you would blow up Nord Stream 1 or 2”, Carlson said.

    This takes Russia's leverage against Europe off the table.

    Based on all the evidence presented here, the chances that Putin/Russia did this is about .001%
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/speculation-of-us-role-in-major-european-gas-leak-after-biden-threatened-to-end-key-pipeline/?utm_source=featured-news&utm_campaign=usa