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Offline Xenophon

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Re: Generalissimo Franco
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2021, 01:15:05 AM »
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  • That flag is from the Moroccan Caliphs personal flag/standard. You can actually find this fairly easily, the stamps you posted are even in Arabic, they're from the Protectorate of Morocco during the same Caliphate. The symbol wasn't so exclusively Zionist at that point in time, many other non Jєωs have used it in the past. However, Franco was surely sympathetic to Jєωs insofar as doing what he believed was the Catholic thing in following both the footsteps of Pius XII in regards to his exchanges with Jєωs. To trash on Franco for accepting and helping Jєωs during and after wwII would mean you should first trash on Pius XII, all Franco did was heed the teaching coming from the Vatican on that whole subject. 

    https://www.fotw.info/flags/ma_es.html
    "Now when he [the Pope] is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church..." St. Francis De Sales

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    Re: Generalissimo Franco
    « Reply #31 on: December 04, 2021, 11:30:09 AM »
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  • Good point on Pope Pius XII’s influence on Franco.  Thanks for returning us to the topic.

    Is correspondence between Pope Pius XII and Franco extant?  I would think the Pope would have communicated with him?

    Such letters would be a good cross-reference as to their thoughts & intentions.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Generalissimo Franco
    « Reply #32 on: December 28, 2021, 12:40:40 PM »
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  • Mustache man implored Franco to put his full support in the war effort, and aside from the Blue Army that he sent that served on the Eastern Front, he vacillated.

    I do have a soft spot for Franco, as he protected Degrelle after the war. But I often wonder if Franco had gone all in for the war effort, would it made much of a difference? Probably not, but who knows.

    I do find these photos very intriguing.
    Even after Franco had commanded the soldiers of the Blue Division to return to Spain on November 3rd 1943 many stayed and formed the Blue Legion while more Spanish recruits kept illegally crossing the Spanish-French border to join the Legion.

    And while Franco did protect Degrelle, he deported Pierre Laval to his death at the hands of the French Republic, a country which had lent indirect support to Franco's Communist enemies in the cινιℓ ωαr.

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    Re: Generalissimo Franco
    « Reply #33 on: December 31, 2021, 01:16:03 PM »
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  • Interesting:

    After the Spanish cινιℓ ωαr, Franco had Spain re-Consecrated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.







    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Generalissimo Franco
    « Reply #34 on: December 31, 2021, 02:40:29 PM »
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  • That flag is from the Moroccan Caliphs personal flag/standard. You can actually find this fairly easily, the stamps you posted are even in Arabic, they're from the Protectorate of Morocco during the same Caliphate. The symbol wasn't so exclusively Zionist at that point in time, many other non Jєωs have used it in the past. However, Franco was surely sympathetic to Jєωs insofar as doing what he believed was the Catholic thing in following both the footsteps of Pius XII in regards to his exchanges with Jєωs. To trash on Franco for accepting and helping Jєωs during and after wwII would mean you should first trash on Pius XII, all Franco did was heed the teaching coming from the Vatican on that whole subject.

    https://www.fotw.info/flags/ma_es.html

    A millennium of Christendom did not allow the Jєωs to run rampant in the polity.

    Sicut judaeis non prohibits wanton pogroms and extermination and it imposes a reciprocal duty on the SS that they not subvert/destroy decent society.

    Mind you, I do not argue that Franco was an utterly subservient tool of the ѕуηαgσgυє. I argue that he had some important successes, but had clay feet—made a big mistake in allowing new ѕуηαgσgυєs and political privileges to the SS. Franco did not intervene to suppress the modernist error of "freedom of religion."


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    Re: Generalissimo Franco
    « Reply #35 on: December 31, 2021, 03:06:33 PM »
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  • :popcorn:

    The moral of the story:  Never trust a Jєω.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi