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Traditional Catholic Faith => World War III - Chapter 2 => Topic started by: Maria Elizabeth on March 20, 2015, 01:31:52 PM
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Fr Nicholas Gruner's March 12, 2015 newsletter states the following:
'And in those days cometh John the Baptist preaching in the desert of Judea.' - St. Matthew 3:1
Thursday, March 12, 2015
Feast of Saint Gregory the Great
Dear ...,
I recently returned from Rome, where I went to attend the February installation of the new cardinals. But while I was there, something unexpected happened - something soul-shaking! - that I did not expect!
I spoke with Father Gabriel Amorth, the world's most famous living exorcist. His words shook me as few things ever have!
Father Amorth told me that we have but a SHORT TIME left before the chastisements predicted by Our Lady of Fatima begin to rip our world apart in ways we can hardly imagine!
HOW LONG? LESS THAN 8 MONTHS!
Father Gabriel Amorth told me that unless the consecration of Russia is performed - AS OUR LADY ASKED! - by the end of October 2015, the dark prophecies of Fatima may well come to pass any day after that!
Why did Father Gabriel Amorth tell this to me? So that Our Lady's Apostolate will raise its voice - as never before -
TO SHOUT THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA FROM THE ROOFTOPS!
And to do this, we must stand together. We must marshall all of our resources, all of our strength, and
WAKE THE WORLD FROM SLEEPWALKING TO ITS DOOM!
There are no accidents. All is Providence! Father Amorth is, at 85, still the chief exorcist of Rome. He has performed tens of thousands of exorcisms and written several books on the subject. He was the handpicked successor of Father Candido, his famed saintly predecessor who himself had special spiritual gifts. Father Amorth knows we are in the final battle with satan and the time is short.
I have met and spoken to Father Amorth many times over the years. This is the first time he has ever told me in plain language how much time we have left - exactly - before the manifest chastisements of the world could begin!
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In His loving mercy, Our Lord has already given our generation many chances to turn from evil and falsehood before we bring about our own destruction.
BEFORE HE CHASTISES, OUR LORD ALWAYS WARNS US IN THE WORDS OF HIS PROPHETS AND SAINTS!
In the spiritual desert of our time, Our Lord has sent us - A MOST DIRE WARNING! - from one even more exalted in the hierarchy of Heaven than John the Baptist!
How important is the Message of Fatima?
OUR LORD CHOSE - HIS MOTHER - TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA!
Let us keep this fact squarely in front of us whenever we consider this message! IT IS THE MOTHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO SPOKE TO US AT FATIMA! Would Our Lord have sent His Mother to us if the message had not been of the greatest importance!?!
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Can Our Lord, who loves and honors His Mother above all creatures, be pleased by the way Her Message has been received by His Church? By His ministers? Imagine how you would feel were your mother to be dishonored, slighted, even insulted!!!
OUR LORD'S WRATH MUST BE GREAT - AND GROWING!!! AND EACH DAY THAT OUR LADY'S WORDS ARE IGNORED BRINGS US CLOSER TO A CHASTISEMENT TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINATION!
Truly, the Church's leaders, by failing to obey Our Lady and consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, have placed the world - and billions of souls! - at risk!
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WE HAVE TO WARN THE WORLD!
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Father Amorth's words should resound in our hearts. We must act now. The clock is ticking!
Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,
Father Nicholas Gruner
Fatima Center
Servants of Jesus and Mary
17000 State Route 30
Constable, NY 12926-9989
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WHAT CAN WE DO?
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1) Pray. Especially pray the Rosary.
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2) Petition the Pope at:
http://www.fatima.org/news/loomingdanger/loomingdanger.asp
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3) Spread the word.
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4) Help Father Gruner to spread the news by donating to his apostolate.
(Address given above.)
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Fundraiser?
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
Same here. It was done too late and not in accordance with Our Lady's wishes ... Consequently, Vatican II happened as the next punishment.
I do believe, however, that there will be a full consecration done during the Great War, and it will be then that Our Lady will triumph, and everyone will see the triumph as a miracle through her intercession and will convert to the Church as a result.
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Fundraiser?
Fr Gruner's letter was asking for funds. But I put the "What can we do?" in myself so I couldn't be accused of presenting info about which "nothing can be done" (which has happened in the past).
(Now I'm accused of fund raising.). :cool:
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Whatever war happens now MUST happen and will not be stopped by a consecration ... because the issue is the restoration of the Church, for which a war is now most likely necessary.
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Fundraiser?
Fr Gruner's letter was asking for funds. But I put the "What can we do?" in myself so I couldn't be accused of presenting info about which "nothing can be done" (which has happened in the past).
(Now I'm accused of fund raising.). :cool:
No, not you, Maria. Sorry if you took it that way.
Father Gruner has been known to send out alarmist news letters to raise funds. His letter reads like one of those weird things selling the latest nutritional product; it uses the same kind of language and flow (I think he hires professional fundraiser writers).
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Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall not pass away. But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray. For ye know not when the time is.
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Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall not pass away. But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray. For ye know not when the time is.
I wasn't thinking of that quote, but I was thinking along the same lines.
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As for the Bible quote....
Context. Think of the context...
If you really wanted to make a point, you should have quoted Matthew ch. 24, because it's the only gospel Olivet Discourse that includes the phrase "consummation of the world".
Mark, ch. xiii, verse iv:
4 Tell us, when shall these things be and what shall be the sign when all these things shall begin to be fulfilled?
Contrast that to:
Matthew, ch. xxiv, verse iii:
3 And when he was sitting on mount Olivet, the disciples came to him privately, saying: Tell us when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the consummation of the world?
Also:
In this specific context in which Christ comes "as a thief in the night", He is referring to His second coming. Which no man can ever possibly know.
This is different than the end of an Age. In which God still can come as a thief in the night (Revelation ch. iii, verse iii), and we may not know the "day and the hour" but that still does not mean we cannot approximate this arrival. If we shouldn't bother, then why did Christ give those specific warnings (wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, etc.)? Just don't throw out dates.
So, in conclusion, we who desire for this conflict; we who want this to just get over with it: we hope for the 6th Age of the Church. One of peace, tranquility, and reinstatement of the Church.
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Fr. Gruner wants money and Our Lady wants Rosaries and Penance. Go figure.
Fr. Gruner is of the New Order, is he not? Indult is still New Order. Go figure.
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Father Gruner has been known to send out alarmist news letters to raise funds. His letter reads like one of those weird things selling the latest nutritional product; it uses the same kind of language and flow (I think he hires professional fundraiser writers).
I'm pretty sure they have at least one professional sales copywriter on staff who writes the letters and rubber-stamps Fr.Gruner's name to them.
I'd be surprised if Fr.Gruner actually writes those letters himself. He just doesn't speak or write that way, even in his articles.
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Fr. Gruner wants money and Our Lady wants Rosaries and Penance. Go figure.
Fr. Gruner is of the New Order, is he not? Indult is still New Order. Go figure.
Maybe he was ordained in the N.O.. don't remember, but he's a traditional priest today. If it weren't for him there would be a lot of people (my family and I included) today that likely wouldn't know of Our Lady's message or be traditionalists.
I get tired of the fundraiser letters myself, but I give Fr.Gruner credit for requesting prayers and penance more often than donations. Besides, I think I've been materially compensated somewhat for my donations by all the free books, dvds, sacramenals etc. FC has sent over the years.
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With regards to the Red Alert.. I'll pay it no mind since it's coming from Fr.Amorth.
Like Ggreg pointed out some time ago, this priest in order to perform the number of exorcisms he's claimed to have done during his time as a priest (160,000) would have to do like 7 exorcisms a day, every day, since his ordination in 1954 to the present day in order to reach that number. With all the time it takes to establish the actual fact of demonic activity and perform the rituals, not to mention the preceding Black Fast of 40 days on bread and water a priest has to do to prepare for the combat? Sorry, not buying it. This guy would have to be doing one minute exorcisms amongst large gatherings of people on a near daily basis for that claim to be true.
Oh and THIS?
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/romes-exorcist-finding-bl.-john-paul-ii-effective-against-satan/
"Yyyeahhh... you have a nice day sir. "
I think Fr.Gruner is just too trusting. :sad:
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How was the date 31 Oct 2015 determined?
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
Same here. It was done too late and not in accordance with Our Lady's wishes ... Consequently, Vatican II happened as the next punishment.
I do believe, however, that there will be a full consecration done during the Great War, and it will be then that Our Lady will triumph, and everyone will see the triumph as a miracle through her intercession and will convert to the Church as a result.
What is your opinion of the Prophecies of the Popes by St. Malachy's that now shows that Francis
is the last Pope, and at the end of his reign Rome will be destroyed?
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With regards to the Red Alert.. I'll pay it no mind since it's coming from Fr.Amorth.
Like Ggreg pointed out some time ago, this priest in order to perform the number of exorcisms he's claimed to have done during his time as a priest (160,000) would have to do like 7 exorcisms a day, every day, since his ordination in 1954 to the present day in order to reach that number. With all the time it takes to establish the actual fact of demonic activity and perform the rituals, not to mention the preceding Black Fast of 40 days on bread and water a priest has to do to prepare for the combat? Sorry, not buying it. This guy would have to be doing one minute exorcisms amongst large gatherings of people on a near daily basis for that claim to be true.
Oh and THIS?
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/romes-exorcist-finding-bl.-john-paul-ii-effective-against-satan/
"Yyyeahhh... you have a nice day sir. "
Don't forget his description of Medjugorje as a "fortress against Satan."
That's like calling Hollywood "a fortress against the Jews."
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Fr. Amorth is a big follower of "Medjugorje".
Apparently, the novus ordo Rome does not like "Medjugorie" despite all its endorsements
of the conciliar church new teachings.
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Fr. Amorth is a big follower of "Medjugorje".
Apparently, the novus ordo Rome does not like "Medjugorie" despite all its endorsements
of the conciliar church new teachings.
Well, it seemed like the perfect V2-endorsing replacement for Fatima at first, I'm sure. But I think the outrageously scandalous rock star lifestyles of the "seers" has caused Rome some embarrassment, thus their tendency to keep aloof from it.
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Don't forget his description of Medjugorje as a "fortress against Satan."
That's like calling Hollywood "a fortress against the Jews."
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The Fatima Crusader reported a while ago, "I would refer to the testimony of the Roman stigmatist, Antonio Ruffini. Pope Pius XII authorized the blessing of a chapel on the spot where Ruffini received the stigmata on the Via Appia, and Father Tomaselli, the miracle worker, wrote a booklet about him — a short account of the life of Ruffini. I myself knew Ruffini for many years. In the early 1990s Ruffini was asked point blank in his home: “Is John Paul II the Pope who is going to do the Consecration of Russia?” He answered: “No, it’s not John Paul. It will not be his immediate successor either, but the one after that. He is the one who will consecrate Russia.” That is, Benedict’s successor, during this time of world war and persecution of the Church, will be the one to do the Consecration at long last, and then the restoration and the triumph of the Immaculate Heart will begin."
I consider this to be quite credible, in so far as it comes from a mystic and stigmatist who was moreover approved by Pope Pius XII. Whether Fr. Amorth is credible is another matter. Beside Fr. Amorth, there is another exorcist, named Msgr. Esseff who has also publicly said that Russia has not been consecrated. He purports to be a locutionist and claims Our Lady said, "They [people of Russia] will realize that I have released an ocean of graces which have changed their darkness into light. They will realize that they have been freed from the past century of diabolical control. They will also know that this great gift has come through the consecration of Russia made by the Holy Father in communion with all the bishops in the world ... That is why the Holy Father and all the bishops must make this Consecration in a public way and must specifically mention Russia. The Russian people must know the source of the gift."
Whatever we may think of this, in my opinion it is at least useful in talking to conservatives to point out that some of their own exorcists agree with us that Russia has not been consecrated yet, and that doing so as quickly as possible is important. I don't agree with Fr. Gruner and Fr. Kramer on everything either, but they've done very important work in promoting the cause of Our Lady of Fatima. Outside the SSPX and other traditional circles, very few priests still work for the consecration, yet it is of the greatest importance. Peace will never come except in this manner, just as peace did not come to France. Only when war and chastisement begins (prophecies foretell an invasion of Europe and even Rome in which Russia will have some part, if it is not converted beforehand), will the Roman authorities finally come to their senses and realize we traditional Catholics who were urging the necessity of the public consecration of Russia by the Holy Father and the Bishops were seeking the Church's best interests all along.
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
Same here. It was done too late and not in accordance with Our Lady's wishes ... Consequently, Vatican II happened as the next punishment.
I do believe, however, that there will be a full consecration done during the Great War, and it will be then that Our Lady will triumph, and everyone will see the triumph as a miracle through her intercession and will convert to the Church as a result.
What is your opinion of the Prophecies of the Popes by St. Malachy's that now shows that Francis
is the last Pope, and at the end of his reign Rome will be destroyed?
I've never been quite sure what to make of those prophecies, honestly.
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
Same here. It was done too late and not in accordance with Our Lady's wishes ... Consequently, Vatican II happened as the next punishment.
I do believe, however, that there will be a full consecration done during the Great War, and it will be then that Our Lady will triumph, and everyone will see the triumph as a miracle through her intercession and will convert to the Church as a result.
What is your opinion of the Prophecies of the Popes by St. Malachy's that now shows that Francis
is the last Pope, and at the end of his reign Rome will be destroyed?
I've never been quite sure what to make of those prophecies, honestly.
The Bergoglian pontificate seems to conform much more to the Prophecy of St. Francis than to those of St. Malachy.
Act bravely, my Brethren; take courage, and trust in the Lord. The time is fast approaching in which there will be great trials and afflictions; perplexities and dissensions, both spiritual and temporal, will abound; the charity of many will grow cold, and the malice of the wicked will increase.
The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death.
Then scandals will be multiplied, our Order will be divided, and many others will be entirely destroyed, because they will consent to error instead of opposing it.
There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God.
Then our Rule and manner of life will be violently opposed by some, and terrible trials will come upon us. Those who are found faithful will receive the crown of life; but woe to those who, trusting solely in their Order, shall fall into tepidity, for they will not be able to support the temptations permitted for the proving of the elect.
Those who preserve their fervour and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. But the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head [Jesus Christ], these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish [physically] rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy.
Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer.
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Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall not pass away. But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray. For ye know not when the time is.
How is this relevant? Father Amorth did not name a day, nor an hour.
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Maybe I'm doing poor searches, but I can't find this information about supposed 31st of October 2015 deadline anywhere else. I find it surprising, as Fr Amorth is well-known and often cited even in Novus Ordo circles, it is difficult to imagine something like that would go unnoticed. Does anyone have any further details on this? Does not seem very credible to me so far...
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(Traditional) Catholics would be well advised to not pay heed to anything Fr. Amorth says. I'm not saying nothing is going to happen in October, but as the saying goes, "a broken clock is right twice a day." And if something does happen in October, it will be coincidental to Fr. Amorth's warning. The reasons for his warning will likely have little or nothing to do with whatever happens - if it happens.
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Whatever war happens now MUST happen and will not be stopped by a consecration ... because the issue is the restoration of the Church, for which a war is now most likely necessary.
War will probably come before a consecration according to Our Lady's request, however, if the consecration would be done before the war, the war would not come. Do you doubt Her ability to establish restore the Church and establish peace? Both things must exist together or not at all.
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By the time November 1, 2015, this will be all forgotten because most people have very
short memories. Do not forget to attend Mass because it will be the Feast of All Saints.
It must be something in the foods, and the water that causes people to lose their memories
in giving a far off date for impending doom. And when we arrive at the date, nothing ever
happens. This tactic works over and over again and it rakes in the money.
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Whatever war happens now MUST happen and will not be stopped by a consecration ... because the issue is the restoration of the Church, for which a war is now most likely necessary.
War will probably come before a consecration according to Our Lady's request, however, if the consecration would be done before the war, the war would not come. Do you doubt Her ability to establish restore the Church and establish peace? Both things must exist together or not at all.
No, that's not what I mean. I meant that there will be no consecration to stop the chastisement, because the chastisement is necessary. And God grants the grace for a consecration based upon how Catholics live.
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Here's the problem with this thing. Father Gruner was shooting the breeze with Father Amorth ... having espresso somewhere in Rome. And Father Amorth says something about the consecration needing to be done before October of this year. Father Gruner then namedrops due to the fame of Father Amorth.
Now, just because he's an exorcist, does Father Amorth have special "inside information"? Does he receive locutions / visions or has he interrogated demons to obtain this information? Or was just speculating based on various things he just put together on his own? In other words, the appeal to the pseudo-authority of a famous personage such as Father Amorth comes across as a disingenuous fund-raising tactic. Otherwise, had Father Amorth indicated the source for his information, I'm certain that Father Gruner would have printed it.
In the end, nothing to see here but some off-the-cuff speculative comment made by Father Amorth.
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Whatever the case, it must be realized that we approach the 100th anniversary of Our Lady's visit to Fatima. This is the other biggest scandal of our time, that the consecration as requested by Our Lady has not yet been done. And yet, Rome plans to hold a party with Luther in 2017?
Such display of arrogance and spite for Our Lady will surely rain down hell from heaven. Perhaps 2015 marks the end of the patience that was allotted us by heaven. If it does happen, then it will be similar to the woes that besought France after King Louis failed to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. The troubles for France happened at the 100 year mark.
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Well said, GG Moreno.
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Yes, the failure to consecrate Russia is a terrible dereliction of duty by the hierarchs of the Church. They will regret it bitterly and do it, as Our Lord and Our Lady said, but it will be very late by then. Probably, only a war and physical suffering will bring carnal men, unable to see the moral and spiritual devastation that causes it, back to their senses. In the spirit of Fatima and Total Consecration, we must pray and offer as many Rosaries, Masses and other sacrifices for the intention that the Pope and the Bishops consecrate Russia, together with Catholic Action for that end. Like the children of Fatima who were victim souls showed us, that includes offering all our prayers, merits, works and sacrifices, through the Sacred and Immaculate Hearts, for the benefit of the Holy Father and the Church at large. That is a means through which God and Mary will release the torrent of graces that effect the consecration, God wills to depend on our prayers. The willing acceptance of any Cross God sends us, as individuals and as members of the Church, is also a part of it and greatly adds to the impetratory value of prayer. When sufficient number of holy souls worldwide live a life of unreserved consecration and surrender to Jesus and Mary and are praying the Rosary every day, as Our Lady commanded, for Her intentions, then the triumph of the Immaculate Heart will begin.
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Fr Nicholas Gruner's March 12, 2015 newsletter states the following:
'And in those days cometh John the Baptist preaching in the desert of Judea.' - St. Matthew 3:1
Thursday, March 12, 2015
Feast of Saint Gregory the Great
Dear ...,
I recently returned from Rome, where I went to attend the February installation of the new cardinals. But while I was there, something unexpected happened - something soul-shaking! - that I did not expect!
I spoke with Father Gabriel Amorth, the world's most famous living exorcist. His words shook me as few things ever have!
Father Amorth told me that we have but a SHORT TIME left before the chastisements predicted by Our Lady of Fatima begin to rip our world apart in ways we can hardly imagine!
HOW LONG? LESS THAN 8 MONTHS!
Father Gabriel Amorth told me that unless the consecration of Russia is performed - AS OUR LADY ASKED! - by the end of October 2015, the dark prophecies of Fatima may well come to pass any day after that!
Why did Father Gabriel Amorth tell this to me? So that Our Lady's Apostolate will raise its voice - as never before -
TO SHOUT THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA FROM THE ROOFTOPS!
And to do this, we must stand together. We must marshall all of our resources, all of our strength, and
WAKE THE WORLD FROM SLEEPWALKING TO ITS DOOM!
There are no accidents. All is Providence! Father Amorth is, at 85, still the chief exorcist of Rome. He has performed tens of thousands of exorcisms and written several books on the subject. He was the handpicked successor of Father Candido, his famed saintly predecessor who himself had special spiritual gifts. Father Amorth knows we are in the final battle with satan and the time is short.
I have met and spoken to Father Amorth many times over the years. This is the first time he has ever told me in plain language how much time we have left - exactly - before the manifest chastisements of the world could begin!
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In His loving mercy, Our Lord has already given our generation many chances to turn from evil and falsehood before we bring about our own destruction.
BEFORE HE CHASTISES, OUR LORD ALWAYS WARNS US IN THE WORDS OF HIS PROPHETS AND SAINTS!
In the spiritual desert of our time, Our Lord has sent us - A MOST DIRE WARNING! - from one even more exalted in the hierarchy of Heaven than John the Baptist!
How important is the Message of Fatima?
OUR LORD CHOSE - HIS MOTHER - TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA!
Let us keep this fact squarely in front of us whenever we consider this message! IT IS THE MOTHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO SPOKE TO US AT FATIMA! Would Our Lord have sent His Mother to us if the message had not been of the greatest importance!?!
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Can Our Lord, who loves and honors His Mother above all creatures, be pleased by the way Her Message has been received by His Church? By His ministers? Imagine how you would feel were your mother to be dishonored, slighted, even insulted!!!
OUR LORD'S WRATH MUST BE GREAT - AND GROWING!!! AND EACH DAY THAT OUR LADY'S WORDS ARE IGNORED BRINGS US CLOSER TO A CHASTISEMENT TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINATION!
Truly, the Church's leaders, by failing to obey Our Lady and consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, have placed the world - and billions of souls! - at risk!
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WE HAVE TO WARN THE WORLD!
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Father Amorth's words should resound in our hearts. We must act now. The clock is ticking!
Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,
Father Nicholas Gruner
Fatima Center
Servants of Jesus and Mary
17000 State Route 30
Constable, NY 12926-9989
Bumping in honor of Father Gruner. :pray:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG3Bw3Z_gbM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG3Bw3Z_gbM)
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Bumping in honor of Father Gruner. :pray:
Fr.Amorth is probably the reason Fr.Gruner had a heart-attack in the first place. He probably got so worried and stressed out over this BULL SHI.T so much it killed him!
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Bumping in honor of Father Gruner. :pray:
Fr.Amorth is probably the reason Fr.Gruner had a heart-attack in the first place. He probably got so worried and stressed out over this BULL SHI.T so much it killed him!
It would be beneficial to the reader if those who down-thumbed C.S.'s comment would explain why they did so.
I have to re-watch the +Williamson conference in St. Catharines last autumn, where Fr. Gruner was invited as a guest. +W specifically said that Fr. Gruner gave him some important information that evening - he seem disturbed by it. +W spoke of it vaguely, with great gravitas but little detail, I presume b/c he needed to get further information. Those of us in attendance were alerted to something big and it seemed to be about an imminent event.
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My point: that Fr. Gruner had some weighty issues that could easily cause a heart attack. Also, after the conference, in a conversation that I heard, he mentioned serious staffing problems, specifically an IT person who wreaked a lot of havoc.
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Don't know how accurate this report is:
http://thesaker.is/more-signs-of-preparations-for-war/
More signs of preparations for war?
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As most of you already know, the Chinese Navy has sent warships into the Black Sea. They are headed for the Russian naval base at Novorossiysk. There have been several reasons given for this trip:
As part of the preparations for the visit of Xi Jinping to the May 9th celebrations
As part of a possible sale of its frigates by China to Russia
As a preparation for joint Russian-Chinese exercises in the Mediterranean
They all sound plausible to me. While some have speculated that the purchase of Chinese frigates by Russia would be a “black eye” for the Russian building industry, I disagree. If a country is preparing for war, then the quantity of defense equipment is far more important than the country of origin. Besides, it is well known that the design of Chinese Navy ships is based on Russian ships, so this is not a case of “Russia cannot do this” but rather a case of “Russian shipyards are already at full capacity, while the Chinese can deliver immediately”. As a stop-gap measure, it makes perfectly good sense to buy equipment from an ally, especially when the design of this equipment is based on yours.
Whatever may be the case, the arrival of these Chinese Navy ships is a slap in the face of the USA and the rest of NATO, who have been trying hard to show what they call “resolve” in the Black Sea, only to have China clearly indicate that it sides with Russia. The fact that the Russians and Chinese will be conducting join exercises in the Mediterranean, which NATO has always considered as mare nostrum, is even a bigger affront to the wannabe global hegemon.
In the meantime check out this video which a friend has just sent me:
When I saw this video, I thought, ‘this is exact kind of “mobilizational music,” which a country preparing to go to war, produces.’ There is nothing wrong with patriotism, as long as it does not degenerate into nationalism, but this mantric repetition of “Russia! Russia! Russia! Russia!” makes me feel very uncomfortable, because it is either designed to elicit “mobilizational feelings” or, even worse, to cater to the already ‘mobilized’ state of the population.
I am not saying that Russia is about to attack anybody. But what I am saying is that there are numerous signs that Russia is acting like a country preparing for war. Also, I am not criticizing Russia, because she is preparing to go to war, I am only saddened (and frightened) by the fact that Russia feels that she has to do so.
Finally, I find it both scary and discouraging that the general public in the West is kept blissfully unaware of the fact that, as of right now, the AngloZionist Empire and Russia are on a collision course. How could anybody oppose something he/she is unaware of?
This is why I will continue to sound the alarm, in the hope that the “silence barrier” can be broken down, before it is too late.
The Saker
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG3Bw3Z_gbM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG3Bw3Z_gbM)
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This is a very good video. At the last minute or so of it, Father mentions that it is probable that mankind will suffer some kind of chastisement by God due to sin and cold hearts.
I have to wonder, regarding the OP, about how he got the info that there will dire consequences if Russia is not consecrated by the end of October. I hope he hasn't been listening to the Medj folks or charismatics. But maybe that's not how he arrived at that particular date at all. I dunno.
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Fr. Gruner had an apostolate to run, & I'm sure he was always looking for ways to whip up enthusiasm & re-inspire his followers with urgency.
...and Fr. Amorth, while he's practically a household name & all that, he doesn't appear to have any special spiritual gifts like Padre Pio had that would provide him with inside information on God's plans. Whatever Fr. Amorth said to Fr. Gruner was probably informed speculation, nothing more.
However, Fr. Amorth is a highly informed source, whose speculations should be given credibility.
Furthermore, as both Fr. Gruner & Fr. Amorth were certainly aware, this particular speculation is highly consistent with a tremendous mass of other indications that we're right on the verge of the fulfillment of the prophecies of La Salette, Fatima, Garabandal, and the Book of the Apocalypse.
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Just been told that Fr Amorth denies having made those comments.
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Just been told that Fr Amorth denies having made those comments.
Before we jump to conclusions, why would Fr. Gruner have lied? 1st, he didn't have that reputation; & 2d if he lied about Fr. Amorth then he was certain to get caught. Something's definitely fishy here, but it may not be the obvious.
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Fr Nicholas Gruner's March 12, 2015 newsletter states the following:
'And in those days cometh John the Baptist preaching in the desert of Judea.' - St. Matthew 3:1
Thursday, March 12, 2015
Feast of Saint Gregory the Great
Dear ...,
I recently returned from Rome, where I went to attend the February installation of the new cardinals. But while I was there, something unexpected happened - something soul-shaking! - that I did not expect!
I spoke with Father Gabriel Amorth, the world's most famous living exorcist. His words shook me as few things ever have!
Father Amorth told me that we have but a SHORT TIME left before the chastisements predicted by Our Lady of Fatima begin to rip our world apart in ways we can hardly imagine!
HOW LONG? LESS THAN 8 MONTHS!
Father Gabriel Amorth told me that unless the consecration of Russia is performed - AS OUR LADY ASKED! - by the end of October 2015, the dark prophecies of Fatima may well come to pass any day after that!
Why did Father Gabriel Amorth tell this to me? So that Our Lady's Apostolate will raise its voice - as never before -
TO SHOUT THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA FROM THE ROOFTOPS!
And to do this, we must stand together. We must marshall all of our resources, all of our strength, and
WAKE THE WORLD FROM SLEEPWALKING TO ITS DOOM!
There are no accidents. All is Providence! Father Amorth is, at 85, still the chief exorcist of Rome. He has performed tens of thousands of exorcisms and written several books on the subject. He was the handpicked successor of Father Candido, his famed saintly predecessor who himself had special spiritual gifts. Father Amorth knows we are in the final battle with satan and the time is short.
I have met and spoken to Father Amorth many times over the years. This is the first time he has ever told me in plain language how much time we have left - exactly - before the manifest chastisements of the world could begin!
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In His loving mercy, Our Lord has already given our generation many chances to turn from evil and falsehood before we bring about our own destruction.
BEFORE HE CHASTISES, OUR LORD ALWAYS WARNS US IN THE WORDS OF HIS PROPHETS AND SAINTS!
In the spiritual desert of our time, Our Lord has sent us - A MOST DIRE WARNING! - from one even more exalted in the hierarchy of Heaven than John the Baptist!
How important is the Message of Fatima?
OUR LORD CHOSE - HIS MOTHER - TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA!
Let us keep this fact squarely in front of us whenever we consider this message! IT IS THE MOTHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO SPOKE TO US AT FATIMA! Would Our Lord have sent His Mother to us if the message had not been of the greatest importance!?!
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Can Our Lord, who loves and honors His Mother above all creatures, be pleased by the way Her Message has been received by His Church? By His ministers? Imagine how you would feel were your mother to be dishonored, slighted, even insulted!!!
OUR LORD'S WRATH MUST BE GREAT - AND GROWING!!! AND EACH DAY THAT OUR LADY'S WORDS ARE IGNORED BRINGS US CLOSER TO A CHASTISEMENT TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINATION!
Truly, the Church's leaders, by failing to obey Our Lady and consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, have placed the world - and billions of souls! - at risk!
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WE HAVE TO WARN THE WORLD!
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Father Amorth's words should resound in our hearts. We must act now. The clock is ticking!
Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,
Father Nicholas Gruner
Fatima Center
Servants of Jesus and Mary
17000 State Route 30
Constable, NY 12926-9989
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Please help me understand this.
Russia has never denied a love and devotion to Mary. Russia has been Christian as long as the West.
It had both Orthodox and Catholics-Ukraine.
Fatima was about Being consecrated the the immaculate heart of Mary. Orthodox never denied any such theology about Mary, though not formally.
"The Orthodox Church calls Mary all-holy, immaculate, free from actual sin. The Orthodox Church has never made any formal and definitive pronouncement on the matter of the Immaculate Conception.
In the past, individual Orthodox theologians have made statements that, if not definitively affirming the Doctrine of Immaculate Conception, at any rate closely approach it.
But since 1854, the great majority of Orthodox reject it as necessary; as implying a false understanding of original sin; as suspecting the doctrine because it seems to separate Mary from the rest of the descendants of Adam and Eve, putting her in a different class.
However, if an individual Orthodox today felt impelled to believe it, he could not be termed a heretic for doing so."
Bishop Kallistos is a Spaulding Lecturer of Eastern Christianity at Oxford University of England. He has not been "corrected" by his Patriarchs (presently, His Holiness Bartholomew), or the Holy Synod of the Patriarchate of Constantinople, for his words.
Other Orthodox theologians have stated that the doctrine of Immaculate Conception might be an unrevealed mystery within the Church; that is, a "theologeuma". There has never been a definitive pronouncement by the seven original Ecuмenical Councils (the only ones Eastern Orthodoxy recognize as "Ecuмenical") declaring this long-known theology a heresy.
They were and are in Schism.
But this Schism is political and was. It was not theological.
Issues over leavening of bread (Risen in Christ as they believe)) and the interpretation of filoque is not theological, and compromises could surely be made.
It is Russia today that is MORE Faith based that the Sodomite West. If they are Red, the USA is Pink.
True, they allow abortion, but so do we, and theirs are more strict. Faith grows there while it withers here. There is no Zionism or Zionist evangelical heresy there, nor 35,000 competing Heretical Protest sects.
I can give dozens of examples, but will stop here. I think much of this is a ruse, but i am open to all serious content concerning it.
The 1917 Revolution was Judaic and Freemasonic. It was not religious!
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I've had a request to post the original docuмent, which is six PDF files large. I didn't know how to upload the PDF files, so Matthew helped by providing the following link:
http://cathinfo.com/Gruner.zip
Many thanks, Matthew!
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No, that's not what I mean. I meant that there will be no consecration to stop the chastisement, because the chastisement is necessary. And God grants the grace for a consecration based upon how Catholics live.
the chastisement is here it has been ever since the council, look around no one is catholic anymore! how many are on a greased rail to hell? some would welcome Fire from Heaven as a relief!
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Re: The Original Docuмent
For iPad and other users who are getting "404: File Not Found", Matthew has kindly provided the following links:
Page 1:
www.cathinfo.com/gruner1.pdf
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www.cathinfo.com/gruner2.pdf
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www.cathinfo.com/gruner3.pdf
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www.cathinfo.com/gruner4.pdf
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www.cathinfo.com/gruner5.pdf
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www.cathinfo.com/gruner6.pdf
Thanks again, Matthew!!
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
If it was not done in union with the bishops then it was not done. The BVM is no liar, if it HAD been done we would have had the period of peace she promised.
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
If it was not done in union with the bishops then it was not done. The BVM is no liar, if it HAD been done we would have had the period of peace she promised.
Apparently Marlelar knows better than Pius XII. :roll-laugh1:
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I'm so tired of hearing about Fr. Amorth and what he says...
This is the same man who gives a big thumbs up to Medjugorje and JP II. :facepalm:
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
If it was not done in union with the bishops then it was not done. The BVM is no liar, if it HAD been done we would have had the period of peace she promised.
Apparently Marlelar knows better than Pius XII. :roll-laugh1:
Roscoe, you are a Scholar and a Gentlemen.
Visions of our Blessed Lady not only took place in 1917, Also Sister
Lucy had visions of our Lady and our Lord in Tui, Spain that took
place in different years.
In 1940, in the Convent Chapel, our Blessed Lord appeared to Sister Lucy
and said that the Holy Father will do the consecration of Russia
and he will do it alone. So. This was fulfilled by Pope Pius XII.
in 1952. You need to read the entire Fatima story
The successors of Pope Pius XII could not do the consecration of Russia
because they were anti-popes.
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
Same here. It was done too late and not in accordance with Our Lady's wishes ... Consequently, Vatican II happened as the next punishment.
I do believe, however, that there will be a full consecration done during the Great War, and it will be then that Our Lady will triumph, and everyone will see the triumph as a miracle through her intercession and will convert to the Church as a result.
I also tend to agree with RC1953.
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
If it was not done in union with the bishops then it was not done. The BVM is no liar, if it HAD been done we would have had the period of peace she promised.
Apparently Marlelar knows better than Pius XII. :roll-laugh1:
Roscoe, you are a Scholar and a Gentlemen.
Visions of our Blessed Lady not only took place in 1917, Also Sister
Lucy had visions of our Lady and our Lord in Tui, Spain that took
place in different years.
In 1940, in the Convent Chapel, our Blessed Lord appeared to Sister Lucy
and said that the Holy Father will do the consecration of Russia
and he will do it alone. So. This was fulfilled by Pope Pius XII.
in 1952. You need to read the entire Fatima story
The successors of Pope Pius XII could not do the consecration of Russia
because they were anti-popes.
All one needs to know is that Pius XII is a little higher authority than any of the marian idolators...... :heretic:
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
If it was not done in union with the bishops then it was not done. The BVM is no liar, if it HAD been done we would have had the period of peace she promised.
Apparently Marlelar knows better than Pius XII. :roll-laugh1:
Roscoe, you are a Scholar and a Gentlemen.
Visions of our Blessed Lady not only took place in 1917, Also Sister
Lucy had visions of our Lady and our Lord in Tui, Spain that took
place in different years.
In 1940, in the Convent Chapel, our Blessed Lord appeared to Sister Lucy
and said that the Holy Father will do the consecration of Russia
and he will do it alone. So. This was fulfilled by Pope Pius XII.
in 1952. You need to read the entire Fatima story
The successors of Pope Pius XII could not do the consecration of Russia
because they were anti-popes.
All one needs to know is that Pius XII is a little higher authority than any of the marian idolators...... :heretic:
I am surprised that you call some people whom pray to the Blessed Virgin
Mary as "Marian Idolaters". I hope that I misunderstood you.
I just have common since belief that the consecration of Russia
has already been done. That includes the full Fatima Story the
includes Tuy, Spain. It cannot be done now nor even in 1960
because we have been ruled by false popes.
I insist that it was done by Pope Pius XII on July 7, 1952. It did
not include all the Bishop of the world. However, the vision of our
Lord to Sister Lucy in 1940 Tuy Spain. The Pope will do it alone.
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In 1940, in the Convent Chapel, our Blessed Lord appeared to Sister Lucy
and said that the Holy Father will do the consecration of Russia
and he will do it alone.
She said Late not alone
i get your point though
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In 1940, in the Convent Chapel, our Blessed Lord appeared to Sister Lucy
and said that the Holy Father will do the consecration of Russia
and he will do it alone.
She said Late not alone
i get your point though
It's according to what translation. The translation I understood is that
the "Holy Father will do the consecration alone".
Thanks
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I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.
Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.
If it was not done in union with the bishops then it was not done. The BVM is no liar, if it HAD been done we would have had the period of peace she promised.
Apparently Marlelar knows better than Pius XII. :roll-laugh1:
Roscoe, you are a Scholar and a Gentlemen.
Visions of our Blessed Lady not only took place in 1917, Also Sister
Lucy had visions of our Lady and our Lord in Tui, Spain that took
place in different years.
In 1940, in the Convent Chapel, our Blessed Lord appeared to Sister Lucy
and said that the Holy Father will do the consecration of Russia
and he will do it alone. So. This was fulfilled by Pope Pius XII.
in 1952. You need to read the entire Fatima story
The successors of Pope Pius XII could not do the consecration of Russia
because they were anti-popes.
All one needs to know is that Pius XII is a little higher authority than any of the marian idolators...... :heretic:
I am surprised that you call some people whom pray to the Blessed Virgin
Mary as "Marian Idolaters". I hope that I misunderstood you.
My post only refers to those who claim to know better than the Pope.... :reporter:
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I thought I misunderstood you. Or perhaps you used unintentional wrong
words. (Roscoe)
About the quote from the 1940 vision to Sister Lucy that" the Pope
will do the consecration of Russian alone" and fulfilled on
July 7, 1952 by Pope Pius XII.
I will come back from what source I found those words in. Since
I moved, my books are still in storage.
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If anyone thinks that the Consecration has been properly done, all we have to do is look around us -- and we can see that it has not been done.
War is daily increasing in the Middle-East; more tensions in Israel; Islamic migrants roaming throughout Europe; and apostasy in the Church is rampant, everywhere.
In short, the absence of Grace in the world is devastating everything and everyone. Fr. Malachi Martin said that because the full 3rd Secret of Fatima was not released and because of the failure of the Popes to consecrate Russia according to Our Lady's and the Lord's express command, - that God would withdraw Grace. We are daily living in this void~~~. It is only the Divine Indwelling of God's Grace in the human soul that preserves us from chaos. St. Athanasius spoke about this well in Contra Gentes.
Regardless of whether the correct translation is "alone" or "late," it is clear that the Consecration of Russia has not been done --
Our Lady would keep Her Promise that an era of Peace would be given to the world, if the Consecration had been done. True Peace is not possible without deep conversion from sin, turning back to Her Divine Son --- and the indwelling of Sanctifying Grace given to the soul through the authentic Catholic sacramental Life.
We see no signs of this - but quite the opposite.
I am daily praying that someone with some credibility release the full 3rd Secret of Fatima. Pope Benedict XVI or his spokesperson could do this. BXVI knows the Secret. In fact, we could say that he has a severe moral obligation to release it -- in this 11th hour when the world and the Church are falling into chaos. He should have released it during his active Pontificate. Since he has not resigned the papal "office" but merely the daily administrative task [per Fr. Paul Kramer], then he is even more obligated to release the full 3rd Secret.
Perhaps the Synod chaos or its aftermath will be the trigger for such. I pray for this daily. :pray:
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Yup, I got that letter too, and am futilely attempting to convince my obstinate sister, a "born again" Southern Baptist, and my agnostic brother, and my equally Southern Baptist mother (95) to listen to me, but to no avail.
My Rosary practice has dissipated, and I've got to get that back up again. My bad.
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I saw a Fr. Gruner site where he clearly outlined the failings of the Pope and Bishops to precisely execute the simple command the Blessed Mother gave the various popes since Fatima to do, and have not done it.
I can't find the precise site, but here is a cut and paste from a FAQ section of his website:
(9) But wasn't the Consecration of Russia done by the Pope in 1984?
No, it was not! This we know by the Pope's own admission! Immediately after the Act of Consecration performed in St. Peter's Square on March 25, 1984, as well as several hours later that same day, the Pope stated that Russia (which he described as "those peoples") was still awaiting its specific Consecration to the Immaculate Heart. This admission was reported the very next day, March 26, 1984, in both L'Osservatore Romano (the Pope's own newspaper) and Avvenire (the Italian bishop's magazine). What is more, most of the world's bishops did not participate in the 1984 ceremony. Many bishops freely admit that they never participated. Yet their participation is necessary for the valid consecration of Russia. In the September 1985 issue of Sol de Fatima, the Blue Army's publication in Spain, Sister Lucy herself stated publicly that the 1984 consecration of the world did not fulfill Our Lady's request because "there was no participation of all the bishops and there was no mention of Russia." When asked the specific question "So the consecration was not done as requested by Our Lady?", Sister Lucy answered: "No. Many bishops attached no importance to this act."
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If anyone thinks that the Consecration has been properly done, all we have to do is look around us -- and we can see that it has not been done.
It was only partially done, by Pius XII alone, without the bishops, and in a very low-key way; the entire intent was to honor publicly Our Lady's miraculous intervention.
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If anyone thinks that the Consecration has been properly done, all we have to do is look around us -- and we can see that it has not been done.
It was only partially done, by Pius XII alone, without the bishops, and in a very low-key way; the entire intent was to honor publicly Our Lady's miraculous intervention.
The only way the world will see that it was our Lady's intercession that converted Russia will be the Pope with all the bishops of the world making the solemn, public consecration as she requested it.
Since there have been several attempts that were deficient in one way or another without Russia's conversion nor any period of peace consequent, it will then be evident that once it is done properly, that is, with the world's bishops joining with the Pope in the same day (even if they're in different parts of the world), the immediate consequence of Russia's conversion will be only explainable by way of the fact that the consecration was at last done as our Lord and our Lady requested.
There will always be doubters, and no magnitude of miracle will ever convince them. Some people go to hell because their hearts are simply hard and they will not believe.
It is worth remembering, however, that all the nay-sayers who went to the Fatima Cova da Iria in October in order to see that nothing would happen, when the miracle of the sun happened, they all believed. That is, at least for a time they did.
Freemasons went there to docuмent a fiasco and came away changed people. They were converted as if they had no choice in the matter, for it was compelling beyond their wildest expectations.
But today, there are people who refuse to think such a thing could have happened in 1917, and so they say "it didn't happen," in obstinate defiance of the witness of 70,000 people who were there that day, under the miracle of the sun.
"There is nothing new under the sun."
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When Our Lady converts Russia and the period of peace follows, even someone like the pertinaciously Godless Stephen Hawking would convert, as it were, against his will.
Whether someone like that will then CONTINUE to believe later on, is another matter.
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Fr Nicholas Gruner's March 12, 2015 newsletter states the following:
'And in those days cometh John the Baptist preaching in the desert of Judea.' - St. Matthew 3:1
Thursday, March 12, 2015
Feast of Saint Gregory the Great
Dear ...,
I recently returned from Rome, where I went to attend the February installation of the new cardinals. But while I was there, something unexpected happened - something soul-shaking! - that I did not expect!
I spoke with Father Gabriel Amorth, the world's most famous living exorcist. His words shook me as few things ever have!
Father Amorth told me that we have but a SHORT TIME left before the chastisements predicted by Our Lady of Fatima begin to rip our world apart in ways we can hardly imagine!
HOW LONG? LESS THAN 8 MONTHS!
Father Gabriel Amorth told me that unless the consecration of Russia is performed - AS OUR LADY ASKED! - by the end of October 2015, the dark prophecies of Fatima may well come to pass any day after that!
Why did Father Gabriel Amorth tell this to me? So that Our Lady's Apostolate will raise its voice - as never before -
TO SHOUT THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA FROM THE ROOFTOPS!
And to do this, we must stand together. We must marshall all of our resources, all of our strength, and
WAKE THE WORLD FROM SLEEPWALKING TO ITS DOOM!
There are no accidents. All is Providence! Father Amorth is, at 85, still the chief exorcist of Rome. He has performed tens of thousands of exorcisms and written several books on the subject. He was the handpicked successor of Father Candido, his famed saintly predecessor who himself had special spiritual gifts. Father Amorth knows we are in the final battle with satan and the time is short.
I have met and spoken to Father Amorth many times over the years. This is the first time he has ever told me in plain language how much time we have left - exactly - before the manifest chastisements of the world could begin!
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In His loving mercy, Our Lord has already given our generation many chances to turn from evil and falsehood before we bring about our own destruction.
BEFORE HE CHASTISES, OUR LORD ALWAYS WARNS US IN THE WORDS OF HIS PROPHETS AND SAINTS!
In the spiritual desert of our time, Our Lord has sent us - A MOST DIRE WARNING! - from one even more exalted in the hierarchy of Heaven than John the Baptist!
How important is the Message of Fatima?
OUR LORD CHOSE - HIS MOTHER - TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA!
Let us keep this fact squarely in front of us whenever we consider this message! IT IS THE MOTHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO SPOKE TO US AT FATIMA! Would Our Lord have sent His Mother to us if the message had not been of the greatest importance!?!
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Can Our Lord, who loves and honors His Mother above all creatures, be pleased by the way Her Message has been received by His Church? By His ministers? Imagine how you would feel were your mother to be dishonored, slighted, even insulted!!!
OUR LORD'S WRATH MUST BE GREAT - AND GROWING!!! AND EACH DAY THAT OUR LADY'S WORDS ARE IGNORED BRINGS US CLOSER TO A CHASTISEMENT TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINATION!
Truly, the Church's leaders, by failing to obey Our Lady and consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, have placed the world - and billions of souls! - at risk!
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WE HAVE TO WARN THE WORLD!
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Father Amorth's words should resound in our hearts. We must act now. The clock is ticking!
Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,
Father Nicholas Gruner
Fatima Center
Servants of Jesus and Mary
17000 State Route 30
Constable, NY 12926-9989
Bumping in honor of Father Gruner. :pray:
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Thursday, March 12, 2015
[...]
Father Amorth told me that we have but a SHORT TIME left before the chastisements predicted by Our Lady of Fatima begin to rip our world apart in ways we can hardly imagine!
HOW LONG? LESS THAN 8 MONTHS!
Father Gabriel Amorth told me that unless the consecration of Russia is performed - AS OUR LADY ASKED! - by the end of October 2015, the dark prophecies of Fatima may well come to pass any day after that!
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Father Nicholas Gruner
Fatima Center
Servants of Jesus and Mary
17000 State Route 30
Constable, NY 12926-9989
September and October has now come and gone, yet, nothing has happened. We’ll see if anything happens “any day after October 31st”. :rolleyes:
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Fr. Kramer often propagated this Fr. Gruner/Amorth message on his FB, too. Fr. Kramer is the same man who also propagates the false paradigm, “Pope Benedict XVI vs. anti-Pope Francis”, as if there is a “difference” between the two, however, the fact is they both belong to the Sect of Paul VI.
Fr. Amorth is the same man who gives accolades to JP II and Medjugorje, and Fr. Gruner was basically a novus ordo indult priest.
Why do you people still listen to what these three men say?
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Fr. Kramer often propagated this Fr. Gruner/Amorth message on his FB, too. Fr. Kramer is the same man who also propagates the false paradigm, “Pope Benedict XVI vs. anti-Pope Francis”, as if there is a “difference” between the two, however, the fact is they both belong to the Sect of Paul VI.
Fr. Amorth is the same man who gives accolades to JP II and Medjugorje, and Fr. Gruner was basically a novus ordo indult priest.
Why do you people still listen to what these three men say?
I have to agree. Fr Kramer seems to have veered off his path of Truth in recent years. He's become very sensual with regards to food (he posts almost daily on his FB page what he is eating) and his promotion of Putin (an adulterer) troubles me.
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Fr Nicholas Gruner's March 12, 2015 newsletter states the following:
'And in those days cometh John the Baptist preaching in the desert of Judea.' - St. Matthew 3:1
Thursday, March 12, 2015
Feast of Saint Gregory the Great
Dear ...,
I recently returned from Rome, where I went to attend the February installation of the new cardinals. But while I was there, something unexpected happened - something soul-shaking! - that I did not expect!
I spoke with Father Gabriel Amorth, the world's most famous living exorcist. His words shook me as few things ever have!
Father Amorth told me that we have but a SHORT TIME left before the chastisements predicted by Our Lady of Fatima begin to rip our world apart in ways we can hardly imagine!
HOW LONG? LESS THAN 8 MONTHS!
Father Gabriel Amorth told me that unless the consecration of Russia is performed - AS OUR LADY ASKED! - by the end of October 2015, the dark prophecies of Fatima may well come to pass any day after that!
Why did Father Gabriel Amorth tell this to me? So that Our Lady's Apostolate will raise its voice - as never before -
TO SHOUT THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA FROM THE ROOFTOPS!
And to do this, we must stand together. We must marshall all of our resources, all of our strength, and
WAKE THE WORLD FROM SLEEPWALKING TO ITS DOOM!
There are no accidents. All is Providence! Father Amorth is, at 85, still the chief exorcist of Rome. He has performed tens of thousands of exorcisms and written several books on the subject. He was the handpicked successor of Father Candido, his famed saintly predecessor who himself had special spiritual gifts. Father Amorth knows we are in the final battle with satan and the time is short.
I have met and spoken to Father Amorth many times over the years. This is the first time he has ever told me in plain language how much time we have left - exactly - before the manifest chastisements of the world could begin!
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In His loving mercy, Our Lord has already given our generation many chances to turn from evil and falsehood before we bring about our own destruction.
BEFORE HE CHASTISES, OUR LORD ALWAYS WARNS US IN THE WORDS OF HIS PROPHETS AND SAINTS!
In the spiritual desert of our time, Our Lord has sent us - A MOST DIRE WARNING! - from one even more exalted in the hierarchy of Heaven than John the Baptist!
How important is the Message of Fatima?
OUR LORD CHOSE - HIS MOTHER - TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA!
Let us keep this fact squarely in front of us whenever we consider this message! IT IS THE MOTHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO SPOKE TO US AT FATIMA! Would Our Lord have sent His Mother to us if the message had not been of the greatest importance!?!
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Can Our Lord, who loves and honors His Mother above all creatures, be pleased by the way Her Message has been received by His Church? By His ministers? Imagine how you would feel were your mother to be dishonored, slighted, even insulted!!!
OUR LORD'S WRATH MUST BE GREAT - AND GROWING!!! AND EACH DAY THAT OUR LADY'S WORDS ARE IGNORED BRINGS US CLOSER TO A CHASTISEMENT TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINATION!
Truly, the Church's leaders, by failing to obey Our Lady and consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, have placed the world - and billions of souls! - at risk!
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WE HAVE TO WARN THE WORLD!
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Father Amorth's words should resound in our hearts. We must act now. The clock is ticking!
Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,
Father Nicholas Gruner
Fatima Center
Servants of Jesus and Mary
17000 State Route 30
Constable, NY 12926-9989
Bumping in honor of Father Gruner. :pray:
:incense:
Fr. Gruner tried every avenue he could find to gain access to the Popes, but was barred by sentries along the way who had instructions to prevent him from speaking to the pope. Finding it impossible in a direct manner, he resorted to indirect means, and it would seem that meeting with Fr. Amorth would be one of those. If he could convince him of the importance of making the Collegial Consecration, perhaps Fr. Amorth could find a way to get that message to the Pope.
So it didn't get done by the end of October, and now there has been almost another month. And there has been no news that Francis is even thinking about this.
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It seems Rome is pushing for a one World New Order Religion.
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It seems Rome is pushing for a one World New Order Religion.
You just now noticed? :roll-laugh2:
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Francis has no intentions to consecrate Russia ever. I remember
a story when Putin visited the Vatican and requested that
Francis consecrate Russia. He was told we are not here to
talk about Fatima. An another Cardinal who was with Francis
also said to Putin, we are out to destroy Fatima.
The above was done by memory, and I believe it was posted
somewhere on this site.
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Francis has no intentions to consecrate Russia ever. I remember
a story when Putin visited the Vatican and requested that
Francis consecrate Russia. He was told we are not here to
talk about Fatima. An another Cardinal who was with Francis
also said to Putin, we are out to destroy Fatima.
The above was done by memory, and I believe it was posted
somewhere on this site.
They must be overjoyed with the death of Fr. Gruner.
Who is going to take up the baton and run with it?
Some say it would take two or three priests to sustain the energy level of Fr. Gruner.
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Francis has no intentions to consecrate Russia ever. I remember
a story when Putin visited the Vatican and requested that
Francis consecrate Russia. He was told we are not here to
talk about Fatima. An another Cardinal who was with Francis
also said to Putin, we are out to destroy Fatima.
The above was done by memory, and I believe it was posted
somewhere on this site.
They must be overjoyed with the death of Fr. Gruner.
Who is going to take up the baton and run with it?
Some say it would take two or three priests to sustain the energy level of Fr. Gruner.
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I found the source. A Father Kramer video from January 2015.
https://youtu.be/ghrGZQ7ltr4
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Answering an open letter from Spain on the death of Sister Lucy:
http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/E049_Coruna.htm
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NEWSCATHOLIC CHURCHWed Dec 30, 2015 - 3:38 pm EST
Exclusive: Interview with Rome chief exorcist Fr. Gabriele Amorth
Abortion , Divorce , Exorcism , Fatima , Fr. Gabriele Amorth , gαy "Marriage" , Synod On The Family
Editor’s note: The following is an interview published in the October issue of Faithful Insight magazine, LifeSite’s new full color, glossy magazine for Catholic readers. Interested Catholics may subscribe to receive the magazine at FaithfulInsight.com. Fr. Amorth, 90, the chief exorcist of Rome, author of An Exorcist Tells His Story and An Exorcist: More Stories, and the person who founded and led the International Association of Exorcists, has performed hundreds of exorcisms in his over 30 years in that capacity. Fr. Amorth here addresses the Synod on the Family among other issues.
December 30, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - It is only a year and a half to the anniversary of the first hundred years of the apparitions of Our Lady at Fatima. Our Lady here made explicit reference to the evils that would come from Russia, were it not to be consecrated to her Immaculate Heart. Since then, maybe with some delay, various consecrations have been actually carried out - of Russia and the world - several times and by different Popes. Solemn among them, that of 25 March 1984, led by John Paul II, with all the world’s bishops.
But Father Gabriele Amorth, 90, known as the dean of the exorcists, as well as a prolific author, does not believe that what was requested by the Blessed Virgin has, in fact, been fulfilled. He asserts in fact that,
"the Consecration has not yet been made. I was there on March 25 in St. Peter's Square, I was in the front row, practically within touching distance of the Holy Father. John Paul II wanted to consecrate Russia, but his entourage did not, fearing that the Orthodox would be antagonized, and they almost almost thwarted him. Therefore, when His Holiness consecrated the world on his knees, he added a sentence not included in the distributed version that instead said to consecrate "especially those nations of which you yourself have asked for their consecration." So, indirectly, this included Russia. However, a specific consecration has not yet been made. You can always do it. Indeed, it will certainly be done ... ".
LifeSite: Our Lady had foretold at Fatima the blood of martyrs, if penance were not done. The blood of the martyrs has begun to flow copiously: how long will it be before God sends His punishment?
Fr. Amorth: "Look, today there are more martyrs than during the first centuries of Christianity. Just think of the Middle East, where so many Christians are killed simply because they are Christian. There is a huge amount of martyrs! But let us not forget what our Lady said: "In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, which will be converted and the world will be granted a period of peace "... Soon we will have great happenings."
 LifeSite: When?
Fr. Amorth: "It is hard to give details of what you do not live. I'm not a prophet. At one time, Israel pulled away from God to embrace idolatry. Prophets were treated very badly. Finally God punished. Today the world does not turn from God because it is idolatrous; rather it pursues pure atheism, so as to put science on the altar. But science does not create; it only discovers that which God has made. In turning away from the Lord, its breakthroughs are put to disastrous use. Without the Lord, progress too is misused. We see it in laws that go totally against nature such as divorce, abortion, 'gαy marriage' ... we have forgotten God! Therefore, God will soon admonish humanity in a very powerful manner, He knows how to remind us of His presence.”
 LifeSite: There are rumors that you had recently indicated a period of eight months, maybe less ... But, as I understand it, there is not a precise time…
Fr. Amorth: "I think it is early. I think we are close. More and more so. The Lord will make Himself heard, and the world will respond. I look at all this with optimism, because God always acts for us to obtain a greater good than the punishments inflicted, which are meant to open the eyes of humanity, which has forgotten and abandoned him. I always remember the rhyme of Metastasio: "Wherever I look, / immense God, I see: /in Your works I admire you, / I recognize You in myself." We should always seek the Lord, we can not forget the origin, the First Cause, as unfortunately happens today ... I was with Padre Pio for 26 years and remember how furious he was about the invention of television: "You will see what it will do!" he said. It has also allowed good things. But I'm very much in the midst of people and see how many people have been ruined by television and the Internet. "
 LifeSite: You spoke about the laws against nature, of divorce, of gαy unions, ... These are the themes of the two Synods on the Family, the Extraordinary held last year and the next one, the Ordinary. Do you believe that these issues have been adequately addressed, or should they be addressed from another perspective at the next meeting in October?
Fr. Amorth: "Certainly it pleases me that the Pope has called the Synod on the Family. But you have to aim to the united family. Divorce has been a disaster; abortion has been a disaster. Each year 50 million children are murdered by abortion. And euthanasia, the broken family, cohabitation ... It is all destruction! The Lord gave us sex for a purpose and He also declared: "May no man divide what God has joined." One thing is sɛҳuąƖ fun; another is love. Today there is much talk of love, but there truly is none! Precisely in Fatima did Our Lady say to the young, seven-year old, Jacinta: "the sin that brings the most souls to hell is the impure sin," the sin of the flesh. She said this to a young girl, who did not even know what it was! We must listen to that which Our Lady says.”
Words, that in any case indicate as reasonable a single stance: conversion, penance, prayer.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-interview-with-rome-chief-exorcist-fr.-gabriele-amorth