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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2015, 04:21:34 PM »
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  • Here's the problem with this thing.  Father Gruner was shooting the breeze with Father Amorth ... having espresso somewhere in Rome.  And Father Amorth says something about the consecration needing to be done before October of this year.  Father Gruner then namedrops due to the fame of Father Amorth.

    Now, just because he's an exorcist, does Father Amorth have special "inside information"?  Does he receive locutions / visions or has he interrogated demons to obtain this information?  Or was just speculating based on various things he just put together on his own?  In other words, the appeal to the pseudo-authority of a famous personage such as Father Amorth comes across as a disingenuous fund-raising tactic.  Otherwise, had Father Amorth indicated the source for his information, I'm certain that Father Gruner would have printed it.

    In the end, nothing to see here but some off-the-cuff speculative comment made by Father Amorth.

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    « Reply #31 on: April 25, 2015, 01:13:04 AM »
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  • Whatever the case, it must be realized that we approach the 100th anniversary of Our Lady's visit to Fatima. This is the other biggest scandal of our time, that the consecration as requested by Our Lady has not yet been done. And yet, Rome plans to hold a party with Luther in 2017?

    Such display of arrogance and spite for Our Lady will surely rain down hell from heaven. Perhaps 2015 marks the end of the patience that was allotted us by heaven. If it does happen, then it will be similar to the woes that besought France after King Louis failed to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. The troubles for France happened at the 100 year mark.


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    « Reply #32 on: April 25, 2015, 07:45:58 AM »
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  • Well said, GG Moreno.  

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    « Reply #33 on: April 28, 2015, 01:15:43 AM »
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  • Yes, the failure to consecrate Russia is a terrible dereliction of duty by the hierarchs of the Church. They will regret it bitterly and do it, as Our Lord and Our Lady said, but it will be very late by then. Probably, only a war and physical suffering will bring carnal men, unable to see the moral and spiritual devastation that causes it, back to their senses. In the spirit of Fatima and Total Consecration, we must pray and offer as many Rosaries, Masses and other sacrifices for the intention that the Pope and the Bishops consecrate Russia, together with Catholic Action for that end. Like the children of Fatima who were victim souls showed us, that includes offering all our prayers, merits, works and sacrifices, through the Sacred and Immaculate Hearts, for the benefit of the Holy Father and the Church at large. That is a means through which God and Mary will release the torrent of graces that effect the consecration, God wills to depend on our prayers. The willing acceptance of any Cross God sends us, as individuals and as members of the Church, is also a part of it and greatly adds to the impetratory value of prayer. When sufficient number of holy souls worldwide live a life of unreserved consecration and surrender to Jesus and Mary and are praying the Rosary every day, as Our Lady commanded, for Her intentions, then the triumph of the Immaculate Heart will begin.

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    « Reply #34 on: April 30, 2015, 02:28:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Maria Elizabeth
    Fr Nicholas Gruner's March 12, 2015 newsletter states the following:


    'And in those days cometh John the Baptist preaching in the desert of Judea.' - St. Matthew 3:1

    Thursday, March 12, 2015
    Feast of Saint Gregory the Great

    Dear ...,

    I recently returned from Rome, where I went to attend the February installation of the new cardinals.  But while I was there, something unexpected happened - something soul-shaking! - that I did not expect!

    I spoke with Father Gabriel Amorth, the world's most famous living exorcist.  His words shook me as few things ever have!

    Father Amorth told me that we have but a SHORT TIME left before the chastisements predicted by Our Lady of Fatima begin to rip our world apart in ways we can hardly imagine!

    HOW LONG?  LESS THAN 8 MONTHS!

    Father Gabriel Amorth told me that unless the consecration of Russia is performed - AS OUR LADY ASKED! - by the end of October 2015, the dark prophecies of Fatima may well come to pass any day after that!

    Why did Father Gabriel Amorth tell this to me?  So that Our Lady's Apostolate will raise its voice - as never before -

    TO SHOUT THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA FROM THE ROOFTOPS!

    And to do this, we must stand together.  We must marshall all of our resources, all of our strength, and

    WAKE THE WORLD FROM SLEEPWALKING TO ITS DOOM!

    There are no accidents.  All is Providence!  Father Amorth is, at 85, still the chief exorcist of Rome.  He has performed tens of thousands of exorcisms and written several books on the subject.  He was the handpicked successor of Father Candido, his famed saintly predecessor who himself had special spiritual gifts.  Father Amorth knows we are in the final battle with satan and the time is short.

    I have met and spoken to Father Amorth many times over the years.  This is the first time he has ever told me in plain language how much time we have left - exactly - before the manifest chastisements of the world could begin!

    ...

    In His loving mercy, Our Lord has already given our generation many chances to turn from evil and falsehood before we bring about our own destruction.  

    BEFORE HE CHASTISES, OUR LORD ALWAYS WARNS US IN THE WORDS OF HIS PROPHETS AND SAINTS!

    In the spiritual desert of our time, Our Lord has sent us - A MOST DIRE WARNING! - from one even more exalted in the hierarchy of Heaven than John the Baptist!

    How important is the Message of Fatima?

    OUR LORD CHOSE - HIS MOTHER - TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA!

    Let us keep this fact squarely in front of us whenever we consider this message!  IT IS THE MOTHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO SPOKE TO US AT FATIMA!  Would Our Lord have sent His Mother to us if the message had not been of the greatest importance!?!

    ...

    Can Our Lord, who loves and honors His Mother above all creatures, be pleased by the way Her Message has been received by His Church?  By His ministers?  Imagine how you would feel were your mother to be dishonored, slighted, even insulted!!!

    OUR LORD'S WRATH MUST BE GREAT - AND GROWING!!!  AND EACH DAY THAT OUR LADY'S WORDS ARE IGNORED BRINGS US CLOSER TO A CHASTISEMENT TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINATION!

    Truly, the Church's leaders, by failing to obey Our Lady and consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, have placed the world - and billions of souls! - at risk!

    ...

    WE HAVE TO WARN THE WORLD!

    ...

    Father Amorth's words should resound in our hearts.  We must act now.  The clock is ticking!

    Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,

    Father Nicholas Gruner
    Fatima Center
    Servants of Jesus and Mary
    17000 State Route 30
    Constable, NY 12926-9989



    Bumping in honor of Father Gruner.  :pray:


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  • Quote from: Elizabeth

    Bumping in honor of Father Gruner.  :pray:


    Fr.Amorth is probably the reason Fr.Gruner had a heart-attack in the first place. He probably got so worried and stressed out over this BULL SHI.T so much it killed him!
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  • Quote from: Catholic Samurai
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    Bumping in honor of Father Gruner.  :pray:


    Fr.Amorth is probably the reason Fr.Gruner had a heart-attack in the first place. He probably got so worried and stressed out over this BULL SHI.T so much it killed him!


    It would be beneficial to the reader if those who down-thumbed C.S.'s comment would explain why they did so.

    I have to re-watch the +Williamson conference in St. Catharines last autumn, where Fr. Gruner was invited as a guest.  +W specifically said that Fr. Gruner gave him some important information that evening - he seem disturbed by it.  +W spoke of it vaguely, with great gravitas but little detail, I presume b/c he needed to get further information.  Those of us in attendance were alerted to something big and it seemed to be about an imminent event.


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  • My point:  that Fr. Gruner had some weighty issues that could easily cause a heart attack.  Also, after the conference, in a conversation that I heard, he mentioned serious staffing problems, specifically an IT person who wreaked a lot of havoc.

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  • Don't know how accurate this report is:

    http://thesaker.is/more-signs-of-preparations-for-war/


    More signs of preparations for war?
    4326 Views May 06, 2015 201 Comments

    As most of you already know, the Chinese Navy has sent warships into the Black Sea.  They are headed for the Russian naval base at Novorossiysk.  There have been several reasons given for this trip:

        As part of the preparations for the visit of Xi Jinping to the May 9th celebrations
        As part of a possible sale of its frigates by China to Russia
        As a preparation for joint Russian-Chinese exercises in the Mediterranean

    They all sound plausible to me.  While some have speculated that the purchase of Chinese frigates by Russia would be a “black eye” for the Russian building industry, I disagree.  If a country is preparing for war, then the quantity of defense equipment is far more important than the country of origin.  Besides, it is well known that the design of Chinese Navy ships is based on Russian ships, so this is not a case of “Russia cannot do this” but rather a case of “Russian shipyards are already at full capacity, while the Chinese can deliver immediately”.  As a stop-gap measure, it makes perfectly good sense to buy equipment from an ally, especially when the design of this equipment is based on yours.

    Whatever may be the case, the arrival of these Chinese Navy ships is a slap in the face of the USA and the rest of NATO, who have been trying hard to show what they call “resolve” in the Black Sea, only to have China clearly indicate that it sides with Russia.  The fact that the Russians and Chinese will be conducting join exercises in the Mediterranean, which NATO has always considered as mare nostrum, is even a bigger affront to the wannabe global hegemon.

    In the meantime check out this video which a friend has just sent me:

     

    When I saw this video, I thought, ‘this is exact kind of “mobilizational music,” which a country preparing to go to war, produces.’  There is nothing wrong with patriotism, as long as it does not degenerate into nationalism, but this mantric repetition of “Russia! Russia! Russia! Russia!” makes me feel very uncomfortable, because it is either designed to elicit “mobilizational feelings” or, even worse, to cater to the already ‘mobilized’ state of the population.

    I am not saying that Russia is about to attack anybody.  But what I am saying is that there are numerous signs that Russia is acting like a country preparing for war.  Also, I am not criticizing Russia, because she is preparing to go to war, I am only saddened (and frightened) by the fact that Russia feels that she has to do so.

    Finally, I find it both scary and discouraging that the general public in the West is kept blissfully unaware of the fact that, as of right now, the AngloZionist Empire and Russia are on a collision course.  How could anybody oppose something he/she is unaware of?

    This is why I will continue to sound the alarm, in the hope that the “silence barrier” can be broken down, before it is too late.

    The Saker

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    This is a very good video. At the last minute or so of it, Father mentions that it is probable that mankind will suffer some kind of chastisement by God due to sin and cold hearts.

    I have to wonder, regarding the OP, about how he got the info that there will dire consequences if Russia is not consecrated by the end of October. I hope he hasn't been listening to the Medj folks or charismatics. But maybe that's not how he arrived at that particular date at all. I dunno.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #41 on: June 13, 2015, 04:49:44 AM »
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  • Fr. Gruner had an apostolate to run, & I'm sure he was always looking for ways to whip up enthusiasm & re-inspire his followers with urgency.

    ...and Fr. Amorth, while he's practically a household name & all that, he doesn't appear to have any special spiritual gifts like Padre Pio had that would provide him with inside information on God's plans. Whatever Fr. Amorth said to Fr. Gruner was probably informed speculation, nothing more.

    However, Fr. Amorth is a highly informed source, whose speculations should be given credibility.

    Furthermore, as both Fr. Gruner & Fr. Amorth were certainly aware, this particular speculation is highly consistent with a tremendous mass of other indications that we're right on the verge of the fulfillment of the prophecies of La Salette, Fatima, Garabandal, and the Book of the Apocalypse.

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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #42 on: June 13, 2015, 12:12:31 PM »
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  • Just been told that Fr Amorth denies having made those comments.
    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #43 on: June 13, 2015, 01:14:18 PM »
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    Just been told that Fr Amorth denies having made those comments.

    Before we jump to conclusions, why would Fr. Gruner have lied? 1st, he didn't have that reputation; & 2d if he lied about Fr. Amorth then he was certain to get caught. Something's definitely fishy here, but it may not be the obvious.

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  • Quote from: Maria Elizabeth
    Fr Nicholas Gruner's March 12, 2015 newsletter states the following:


    'And in those days cometh John the Baptist preaching in the desert of Judea.' - St. Matthew 3:1

    Thursday, March 12, 2015
    Feast of Saint Gregory the Great

    Dear ...,

    I recently returned from Rome, where I went to attend the February installation of the new cardinals.  But while I was there, something unexpected happened - something soul-shaking! - that I did not expect!

    I spoke with Father Gabriel Amorth, the world's most famous living exorcist.  His words shook me as few things ever have!

    Father Amorth told me that we have but a SHORT TIME left before the chastisements predicted by Our Lady of Fatima begin to rip our world apart in ways we can hardly imagine!

    HOW LONG?  LESS THAN 8 MONTHS!

    Father Gabriel Amorth told me that unless the consecration of Russia is performed - AS OUR LADY ASKED! - by the end of October 2015, the dark prophecies of Fatima may well come to pass any day after that!

    Why did Father Gabriel Amorth tell this to me?  So that Our Lady's Apostolate will raise its voice - as never before -

    TO SHOUT THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA FROM THE ROOFTOPS!

    And to do this, we must stand together.  We must marshall all of our resources, all of our strength, and

    WAKE THE WORLD FROM SLEEPWALKING TO ITS DOOM!

    There are no accidents.  All is Providence!  Father Amorth is, at 85, still the chief exorcist of Rome.  He has performed tens of thousands of exorcisms and written several books on the subject.  He was the handpicked successor of Father Candido, his famed saintly predecessor who himself had special spiritual gifts.  Father Amorth knows we are in the final battle with satan and the time is short.

    I have met and spoken to Father Amorth many times over the years.  This is the first time he has ever told me in plain language how much time we have left - exactly - before the manifest chastisements of the world could begin!

    ...

    In His loving mercy, Our Lord has already given our generation many chances to turn from evil and falsehood before we bring about our own destruction.  

    BEFORE HE CHASTISES, OUR LORD ALWAYS WARNS US IN THE WORDS OF HIS PROPHETS AND SAINTS!

    In the spiritual desert of our time, Our Lord has sent us - A MOST DIRE WARNING! - from one even more exalted in the hierarchy of Heaven than John the Baptist!

    How important is the Message of Fatima?

    OUR LORD CHOSE - HIS MOTHER - TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA!

    Let us keep this fact squarely in front of us whenever we consider this message!  IT IS THE MOTHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO SPOKE TO US AT FATIMA!  Would Our Lord have sent His Mother to us if the message had not been of the greatest importance!?!

    ...

    Can Our Lord, who loves and honors His Mother above all creatures, be pleased by the way Her Message has been received by His Church?  By His ministers?  Imagine how you would feel were your mother to be dishonored, slighted, even insulted!!!

    OUR LORD'S WRATH MUST BE GREAT - AND GROWING!!!  AND EACH DAY THAT OUR LADY'S WORDS ARE IGNORED BRINGS US CLOSER TO A CHASTISEMENT TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINATION!

    Truly, the Church's leaders, by failing to obey Our Lady and consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, have placed the world - and billions of souls! - at risk!

    ...

    WE HAVE TO WARN THE WORLD!

    ...

    Father Amorth's words should resound in our hearts.  We must act now.  The clock is ticking!

    Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,

    Father Nicholas Gruner
    Fatima Center
    Servants of Jesus and Mary
    17000 State Route 30
    Constable, NY 12926-9989




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