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Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2015, 12:39:22 AM »
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  • How was the date 31 Oct 2015 determined?  

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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #16 on: March 21, 2015, 11:57:49 AM »
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    I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
    done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.  
    Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
    of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.


    Same here.  It was done too late and not in accordance with Our Lady's wishes ... Consequently, Vatican II happened as the next punishment.

    I do believe, however, that there will be a full consecration done during the Great War, and it will be then that Our Lady will triumph, and everyone will see the triumph as a miracle through her intercession and will convert to the Church as a result.


    What is your opinion of the Prophecies of the Popes by St. Malachy's that now shows that Francis
    is the last Pope, and at the end of his reign Rome will be destroyed?


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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #17 on: March 21, 2015, 12:07:01 PM »
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    With regards to the Red Alert.. I'll pay it no mind since it's coming from Fr.Amorth.

    Like Ggreg pointed out some time ago, this priest in order to perform the number of exorcisms he's claimed to have done during his time as a priest (160,000) would have to do like 7 exorcisms a day, every day, since his ordination in 1954 to the present day in order to reach that number. With all the time it takes to establish the actual fact of demonic activity and perform the rituals, not to mention the preceding Black Fast of 40 days on bread and water a priest has to do to prepare for the combat? Sorry, not buying it. This guy would have to be doing one minute exorcisms amongst large gatherings of people on a near daily basis for that claim to be true.

    Oh and THIS?

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/romes-exorcist-finding-bl.-john-paul-ii-effective-against-satan/

    "Yyyeahhh... you have a nice day sir. "



    Don't forget his description of Medjugorje as a "fortress against Satan."

    That's like calling Hollywood "a fortress against the Jews."

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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #18 on: March 21, 2015, 12:22:26 PM »
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  • Fr. Amorth is a big follower of "Medjugorje".

    Apparently, the novus ordo Rome does not like "Medjugorie" despite all its endorsements
    of the conciliar church new teachings.

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    « Reply #19 on: March 21, 2015, 12:34:43 PM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    Fr. Amorth is a big follower of "Medjugorje".

    Apparently, the novus ordo Rome does not like "Medjugorie" despite all its endorsements
    of the conciliar church new teachings.


    Well, it seemed like the perfect V2-endorsing replacement for Fatima at first, I'm sure. But I think the outrageously scandalous rock star lifestyles of the "seers" has caused Rome some embarrassment, thus their tendency to keep aloof from it.  


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    « Reply #20 on: March 21, 2015, 02:33:00 PM »
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    Don't forget his description of Medjugorje as a "fortress against Satan."

    That's like calling Hollywood "a fortress against the Jews."
    :laugh1:
    "An other parable he proposed vnto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a mustard-seede, vvhich a man tooke and sovved in his field. Which is the least surely of al seedes: but vvhen it is grovven, it is greater then al herbes, and is made a tre

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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #21 on: March 23, 2015, 09:38:25 AM »
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  • The Fatima Crusader reported a while ago, "I would refer to the testimony of the Roman stigmatist, Antonio Ruffini. Pope Pius XII authorized the blessing of a chapel on the spot where Ruffini received the stigmata on the Via Appia, and Father Tomaselli, the miracle worker, wrote a booklet about him — a short account of the life of Ruffini. I myself knew Ruffini for many years. In the early 1990s Ruffini was asked point blank in his home: “Is John Paul II the Pope who is going to do the Consecration of Russia?” He answered: “No, it’s not John Paul. It will not be his immediate successor either, but the one after that. He is the one who will consecrate Russia.” That is, Benedict’s successor, during this time of world war and persecution of the Church, will be the one to do the Consecration at long last, and then the restoration and the triumph of the Immaculate Heart will begin."

    I consider this to be quite credible, in so far as it comes from a mystic and stigmatist who was moreover approved by Pope Pius XII. Whether Fr. Amorth is credible is another matter. Beside Fr. Amorth, there is another exorcist, named Msgr. Esseff who has also publicly said that Russia has not been consecrated. He purports to be a locutionist and claims Our Lady said, "They [people of Russia] will realize that I have released an ocean of graces which have changed their darkness into light. They will realize that they have been freed from the past century of diabolical control. They will also know that this great gift has come through the consecration of Russia made by the Holy Father in communion with all the bishops in the world ... That is why the Holy Father and all the bishops must make this Consecration in a public way and must specifically mention Russia. The Russian people must know the source of the gift."

    Whatever we may think of this, in my opinion it is at least useful in talking to conservatives to point out that some of their own exorcists agree with us that Russia has not been consecrated yet, and that doing so as quickly as possible is important. I don't agree with Fr. Gruner and Fr. Kramer on everything either, but they've done very important work in promoting the cause of Our Lady of Fatima. Outside the SSPX and other traditional circles, very few priests still work for the consecration, yet it is of the greatest importance. Peace will never come except in this manner, just as peace did not come to France. Only when war and chastisement begins (prophecies foretell an invasion of Europe and even Rome in which Russia will have some part, if it is not converted beforehand), will the Roman authorities finally come to their senses and realize we traditional Catholics who were urging the necessity of the public consecration of Russia by the Holy Father and the Bishops were seeking the Church's best interests all along.

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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #22 on: March 23, 2015, 10:48:54 AM »
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    I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
    done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.  
    Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
    of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.


    Same here.  It was done too late and not in accordance with Our Lady's wishes ... Consequently, Vatican II happened as the next punishment.

    I do believe, however, that there will be a full consecration done during the Great War, and it will be then that Our Lady will triumph, and everyone will see the triumph as a miracle through her intercession and will convert to the Church as a result.


    What is your opinion of the Prophecies of the Popes by St. Malachy's that now shows that Francis
    is the last Pope, and at the end of his reign Rome will be destroyed?


    I've never been quite sure what to make of those prophecies, honestly.


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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #23 on: March 23, 2015, 12:33:46 PM »
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    I always believed that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was
    done in July 1952 by Pope Pius XII, in which he named Russia by name.  
    Not with the Union of all the Catholic Bishops of the World. As our Lord said, like the King
    of France. It will be late. the consecrations was done alone by Pope Pius XII.


    Same here.  It was done too late and not in accordance with Our Lady's wishes ... Consequently, Vatican II happened as the next punishment.

    I do believe, however, that there will be a full consecration done during the Great War, and it will be then that Our Lady will triumph, and everyone will see the triumph as a miracle through her intercession and will convert to the Church as a result.


    What is your opinion of the Prophecies of the Popes by St. Malachy's that now shows that Francis
    is the last Pope, and at the end of his reign Rome will be destroyed?


    I've never been quite sure what to make of those prophecies, honestly.


    The Bergoglian pontificate seems to conform much more to the Prophecy of St. Francis than to those of St. Malachy.

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    Act bravely, my Brethren; take courage, and trust in the Lord. The time is fast approaching in which there will be great trials and afflictions; perplexities and dissensions, both spiritual and temporal, will abound; the charity of many will grow cold, and the malice of the wicked will increase.

    The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death.

    Then scandals will be multiplied, our Order will be divided, and many others will be entirely destroyed, because they will consent to error instead of opposing it.

    There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God.

    Then our Rule and manner of life will be violently opposed by some, and terrible trials will come upon us. Those who are found faithful will receive the crown of life; but woe to those who, trusting solely in their Order, shall fall into tepidity, for they will not be able to support the temptations permitted for the proving of the elect.

    Those who preserve their fervour and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. But the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head [Jesus Christ], these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish [physically] rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy.

    Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer.

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    Fr Gabriel Amorth - Consecrate Russia by 31 Oct 2015 or Dire Consequenses
    « Reply #24 on: March 23, 2015, 07:11:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: Dolores
    Quote from: St. Mark 13:31-33
    Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall not pass away.  But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.  Take ye heed, watch and pray. For ye know not when the time is.


    How is this relevant? Father Amorth did not name a day, nor an hour.
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    « Reply #25 on: March 25, 2015, 09:17:17 AM »
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  • Maybe I'm doing poor searches, but I can't find this information about supposed 31st of October 2015 deadline anywhere else. I find it surprising, as Fr Amorth is well-known and often cited even in Novus Ordo circles, it is difficult to imagine something like that would go unnoticed. Does anyone have any further details on this? Does not seem very credible to me so far...


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    « Reply #26 on: March 25, 2015, 10:48:24 AM »
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  • (Traditional) Catholics would be well advised to not pay heed to anything Fr. Amorth says. I'm not saying nothing is going to happen in October, but as the saying goes, "a broken clock is right twice a day." And if something does happen in October, it will be coincidental to Fr. Amorth's warning. The reasons for his warning will likely have little or nothing to do with whatever happens - if it happens.

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    « Reply #27 on: April 24, 2015, 01:56:03 AM »
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    Whatever war happens now MUST happen and will not be stopped by a consecration ... because the issue is the restoration of the Church, for which a war is now most likely necessary.


    War will probably come before a consecration according to Our Lady's request, however, if the consecration would be done before the war, the war would not come. Do you doubt Her ability to establish restore the Church and establish peace? Both things must exist together or not at all.


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    « Reply #28 on: April 24, 2015, 01:04:08 PM »
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  • By the time November 1, 2015, this will be all forgotten because most people have very
    short memories.  Do not forget to attend Mass because it will be the Feast of All Saints.
    It must be something in the foods, and the water that causes people to lose their memories
    in giving a far off date for impending doom. And when we arrive at the date, nothing ever
    happens. This tactic works over and over again and it rakes in the money.

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    « Reply #29 on: April 24, 2015, 04:17:13 PM »
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    Whatever war happens now MUST happen and will not be stopped by a consecration ... because the issue is the restoration of the Church, for which a war is now most likely necessary.


    War will probably come before a consecration according to Our Lady's request, however, if the consecration would be done before the war, the war would not come. Do you doubt Her ability to establish restore the Church and establish peace? Both things must exist together or not at all.



    No, that's not what I mean.  I meant that there will be no consecration to stop the chastisement, because the chastisement is necessary.  And God grants the grace for a consecration based upon how Catholics live.