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Offline jman123

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Fatima WWIII
« on: June 24, 2024, 11:01:53 PM »
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    • I am thinking, in light of the situation in Ukraine and the West , that perhaps if nuclear world war erupted, over Russia and NATO, the ensuing calamity could possibly be the chastisements foretold. Perhaps from the radioactive ruins the era of peace may rise up and there would be a Christian Renaissance. Is this plausible? In the meantime would trad Catholics die? How would priests handle this catastrophe?
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2024, 11:12:50 PM »
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    • Not that it matters to anyone but me, I love this post! Outstanding questions.
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    Offline Mr G

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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #2 on: June 25, 2024, 11:57:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: jman123 on June 24, 2024, 11:01:53 PM
    I am thinking, in light of the situation in Ukraine and the West , that perhaps if nuclear world war erupted, over Russia and NATO, the ensuing calamity could possibly be the chastisements foretold. Perhaps from the radioactive ruins the era of peace may rise up and there would be a Christian Renaissance. Is this plausible? In the meantime would trad Catholics die? How would priests handle this catastrophe?

    In this prophecy, during a chastisement, the Church is without a Pope and St. Peter comes save the remaining faithful Catholics and gathers them together, selects the man to be elected Pope. What is not explained is what happened to the Pope at this time, was he killed or was it a sedevacantist situation going on?
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #3 on: June 25, 2024, 12:17:49 PM »
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    • I'm not sure if I believe that it would go "nuclear".  I don't think there's any reference to that in various Catholic private revelation if you don't include Akita's "fire from above" (I don't think Akita was legit), but only God knows.

    I'm not even sure, personally, whether nuclear bombs exist.  They were not used at Hiroshima/Nagasaki (those were both frauds, massive firebombing using conventional weapons where the US pretended it had used nukes), and there's much obviously-fake footage of nuclear tests.  They may have eventually gotten them "working" but they were not working as early as they had claimed.
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #4 on: June 25, 2024, 03:58:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 25, 2024, 12:17:49 PM
    I'm not even sure, personally, whether nuclear bombs exist.
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    In the fifties, people could watch nuclear bombs being detonated in Nevada from grandstands in Las Vegas.
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #5 on: June 25, 2024, 04:00:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: jman123 on June 24, 2024, 11:01:53 PM
    I am thinking, in light of the situation in Ukraine and the West , that perhaps if nuclear world war erupted
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    You would be better off if you would turn off the news and stop listening to this absurd hysteria.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #6 on: June 25, 2024, 04:44:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on June 25, 2024, 03:58:54 PM
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    In the fifties, people could watch nuclear bombs being detonated in Nevada from grandstands in Las Vegas.

    Many of the preliminary tests were simulated by stacking up huge piles of TNT ... looks absolutely identical to the early nukes.  In fact, there were islands where they admitted they were doing this to study its effects.

    It's 100% certain that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not nuked but firebombed.  They created this myth that "mushroom clouds" are somehow a unique signature of nuclear bombs.  They're not.  As I mentioned, when they admittedly stacked up huge mounds of TNT to testing purposes, the explosions looked identical to nukes.

    It's possible that they later developed the technology, but they did not have it at the time, but faked it in order to scare potential enemies, including the Soviets.  They were concerned the Soviets would get the bomb first and so they faked Hiroshima/Nagasaki so that they believed the US had a deterrent in case the Soviets did come up with them first.
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #7 on: June 25, 2024, 04:50:19 PM »
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2024, 10:38:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on June 25, 2024, 04:00:00 PM
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    You would be better off if you would turn off the news and stop listening to this absurd hysteria.
    While hysteria is to be condemned ("Take heed that no man seduce you…" Mt 24:4), it is foolish to not keep an eye on events. In fact the Gospels are replete with admonitions regarding "the signs" and advice on our proper response to these signs. Start with the entirety of Matthew Chapter 24.

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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #9 on: June 26, 2024, 11:20:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 25, 2024, 04:44:43 PM

    …It's 100% certain that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not nuked but firebombed.…

    How then does one explain the observed and thoroughly docuмented spike in birth defects, still births, and cancers?

    While one may casually speculate that inhaled/ingested toxins from conventional explosives might cause the birth defects and still births, one is hard-pressed to explain, for example the special signature spike in thyroid cancers following "TNT explosions." The thyroid gland has a special affinity to sequester certain radionuclides, but there is no evidence of any such signature response to conventional explosives or their degradation products.

    If one wants to blame the thyroid cancer spikes in Hiroshima and Nagasaki on "TNT," how does one blame "TNT" for the spike following the Chernobyl reactor disaster? Did Chernobyl release a deadly cloud of TNT with persistent effects on all life below?

    Consider: Iodine-131 has a short half-life* (7.9 days) so decays relatively quickly, accounting for the very early spikes in thyroid cancers after nuclear events. Iodine-129 has a half-life of 15,700,000 years. The 36 known radioisotopes of iodine all have varying half-lives, so exert their rad-bio effects with matching time frames. In aggregate these persistent Iodine radionuclides account for the observed sustained increase in thyroid cancers over pre-exposure baseline that follows the initial Iodine-131-induced spike.

    Iodine-127 is the only non-radioactive Iodine isotope.… and that is why SSKI-127 (Super Saturated Potassium Iodine-127) is used as a thyroid blocker. If taken early enough (even pre-exposure), very high doses of SSKI saturate the thyroid's iodine-uptake apparatus, so that when the radionuclides arrive and are inhaled/ingested, the thyroid is unable to sequester any more.  This blocks the thyroid cancer increases that are otherwise observed.

    TNT (2,4,6-trinitrotoluene) is composed only of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen—no iodine or other elements. No thyroid-specific toxicities are observed with TNT and no thyroid-specific cancer spike or sustained incidence can be observed.

    It takes multiple lifetime careers to do such analysis—which is exactly what the ABCC did!

    So…

    However many fraudulent events have been perpetrated, it behooves us to not be dismissive of nuclear weapons and their rad-bio effects. Please do not wed yourself to this—dare I say it?—crackpot "no nukes" theory.

    Just as hysteria is to be condemned, so too absolute denialism must be condemned.



    *Recall that a "half-life" is the time for the amount of radiation to decrease by half. After one half-life the radiation level is not zero, but only half!
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #10 on: June 26, 2024, 11:29:56 AM »
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    • Besides… Would God allow this? :laugh2:
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #11 on: June 26, 2024, 05:18:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on June 26, 2024, 10:38:19 AM
    While hysteria is to be condemned ("Take heed that no man seduce you…" Mt 24:4), it is foolish to not keep an eye on events.
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    And anyone who has kept an eye on events has seen that the war in eastern Europe has not led to a nuclear war. In fact, we here in the United States have been just fine since it erupted several years ago.
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #12 on: June 26, 2024, 07:18:22 PM »
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    And anyone who has kept an eye on events has seen that the war in eastern Europe has not led to a nuclear war. 
    So?  This proves nothing. 
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #13 on: June 26, 2024, 08:26:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 25, 2024, 04:50:19 PM
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/07/nuclear-bombs-do-not-exist.html
    Hiroshima Revisited by Michael Palmer was an interesting read, he goes into all the details.  
    Chalk up "nukes" to more of the the fake, the gαy and Jєωιѕн 20th century lies.
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    Re: Fatima WWIII
    « Reply #14 on: June 26, 2024, 09:00:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on June 26, 2024, 11:20:07 AM

    How then does one explain the observed and thoroughly docuмented spike in birth defects, still births, and cancers?

    None of that happened near Hiroshima and Nagasaki ... the two places they were allegedly used on people.  Greatest incident in this regard was Chernobyl, but that was obviously not a nuclear bomb.
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