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Offline Neil Obstat

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« on: September 25, 2012, 07:06:24 PM »
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  • I got an email from a friend that a woman in Colorado was given change at
    a convenience store, and among the dollar bills was one that had on
    the back, under "IN GOD WE TRUST,"  the words as follows:

    NO GOD BUT ALLAH


    So, I replied to her, saying that this is war, and we ought to fight our battles.
    So we can get our own stamps. I suggest green so that the robots that
    sort out defects don't kick these out. Of course, I don't recommend making
    any marks on paper money. That would be unAmerican, like the Mohammedans.


    NO ALLAH BUT GOD

    ALLAH YALLAH YUUUCK!

    BUT ALLAH IS THE DEVIL

    BUT MOHAMMAD IS A WARLOCK

    Allah is the 'god' of devil worshippers.

    ALLAH IS A DEVIL

    BUT TRUST NOT IN ALLAH

    If you worship Allah you're a witch or a warlock.

    Allah is the god of all the damned.

    Allah burns in hell with all his demons.

    Allah is a devil and Mohammad is his warlock.

    PRAY TO ALLAH GO TO HELL

    The god of the possessed is Allah

    Diabolical possession = owned by Allah.

    ONE GOD = NO ALLAH

    NO TRUST IN ALLAH

    IN ALLAH TRUST NOT

    TRUST NOT IN ALLAH

    TRUST IN ALLAH GET THE SHAFT

    TRUST IN ALLAH GET BURNED

    LOVE A LIE - TRUST IN ALLAH - GO TO HELL




    Check it out. It actually can look pretty good:



    IN GOD WE TRUST
    TRUST NOT IN ALLAH
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    « Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 05:35:13 PM »
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  • Doesn't "Allah" just mean "God" in Arabic? My Chaldean friend prays to "Allah" in his native language, but he is a Chaldean Catholic, not a Muslim.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 07:05:04 PM »
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    Doesn't "Allah" just mean "God" in Arabic? My Chaldean friend prays to "Allah" in his native language, but he is a Chaldean Catholic, not a Muslim.
    Yes it does, but when the Muslim refers to "Allah" he means a world of difference than when the Arabic Christian prays to Allah.


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    « Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 11:13:47 PM »
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    Yes it does, but when the Muslim refers to "Allah" he means a world of difference than when the Arabic Christian prays to Allah.

    That is true. However, when viewed in the light that "Allah" means "God", some of your writing suggestions are quite humorous, such as:

    NO ALLAH BUT GOD
    PRAY TO ALLAH GO TO HELL

    Rather than mention Allah at all, I think it would be more beneficial to write "CATHOLICISM IS THE TRUTH" or something more along those lines. If I was to see "PRAY TO ALLAH GO TO HELL" on a dollar bill, I would think that some ignorant, overtly patriotic Protestant wrote it in support of the War on Terror, or something. However, you can't get much clearer than "CATHOLICISM IS THE TRUTH".

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    « Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 11:42:05 PM »
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    Of course, I don't recommend making
    any marks on paper money.


    Why not ?  Can dollar bills really be the object of "defacement" ?

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    That would be unAmerican...


    :rolleyes: What does "un-American" really even mean ?  As that peculiar word is generally used, the Catholic Faith is categorically "un-American." :wink:  It is very American, though, as well as African, Eurasian, Australian, and Antarctican.

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    ...like the Mohammedans.


    That's true.  Mohammedanism seems to be uniquely derivative of Arabian culture and superstitions, much like Protestantism and Liberalism are uniquely derivative of Northern European and Germanic culture.  Neither have their roots or belong in America, whether North, South, or Central.  They are a foreign infliction.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 11:48:46 PM »
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    That's true.  Mohammedanism seems to be uniquely derivative of Arabian culture and superstitions, much like Protestantism and Liberalism are uniquely derivative of Northern European and Germanic culture.  Neither have their roots or belong in America, whether North, South, or Central.  They are a foreign infliction.


    Obviously you forgot about the French Revolution.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 11:56:03 PM »
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    That's true.  Mohammedanism seems to be uniquely derivative of Arabian culture and superstitions, much like Protestantism and Liberalism are uniquely derivative of Northern European and Germanic culture.  Neither have their roots or belong in America, whether North, South, or Central.  They are a foreign infliction.


    Obviously you forgot about the French Revolution.


    No, I didn't.  You should study the origins of the French Revolution (Montesquieu, Voltaire, Encyclopedism, the parlementaires, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, Jansenism, the rebellions throughout the reign of Louis XV, the Huguenots, intendants, Gallicanism, Anglophilia, etc.) before you make public statements implying that it wasn't a triumph of Northern European and Protestant culture in France.  Such statements make you look ignorant.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 12:04:12 AM »
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    No, I didn't.  You should study the origins of the French Revolution (Montesquieu, Voltaire, Encyclopedism, the parlementaires, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, Jansenism, the rebellions throughout the reign of Louis XV, the Huguenots, intendants, Gallicanism, Anglophilia, etc.) before you make public statements implying that it wasn't a triumph of Northern European and Protestant culture in France.  Such statements make you look ignorant.


    I just find you to be a hypocrite. You can be as proud as you want about France but if I was to defend Germany oh that's evil nationalist nαzι rhetoric! Well you French have nothing to brag about. You have the French Revolution, you have the stupid decision of declaring war on Germany, you have the French counter-terrorist tactics of torture and reprisals against the Algerians, you have the decadent French fashion, you have Muslims right at your doorstep, etc. Need I go on?

    No I have no problem with you being proud about France PereJospeh because France did bring civilization to the conquered peoples of their empire, art and architecture like the Chartes Cathedral, and writers like de Maistre, I just happen to have a problem with you slandering Germans.


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    « Reply #8 on: October 19, 2012, 12:34:05 AM »
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    No, I didn't.  You should study the origins of the French Revolution (Montesquieu, Voltaire, Encyclopedism, the parlementaires, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, Jansenism, the rebellions throughout the reign of Louis XV, the Huguenots, intendants, Gallicanism, Anglophilia, etc.) before you make public statements implying that it wasn't a triumph of Northern European and Protestant culture in France.  Such statements make you look ignorant.


    I just find you to be a hypocrite.


    Is this akin to the point you frequently imply that it is okay for Protestants and Mohammedans to persecute Catholics because Catholics have suppressed their false religions historically ?  I am not a hypocrite because my standard is not "national pride" or something petty like that, but the Catholic Faith and the divine mission of France (I refer you to Sainte Jeanne d'Arc, St Louis, St Rémi, and so forth).  If I were only opposed to the influence of Northern Europeans because they are not French or Latins, I would indeed be a hypocrite.  On the contrary, I take my opposition from perceived deep cultural and religious dissimilarities with a view to protect the stability of the Holy See and the Catholic nations so that we can peacefully send missionaries out to convert the whole world to the order that can only come from the Kingship of Christ (something you apparently do not believe in, since you apparently think pagans and Protestants and Mohammedans can achieve peace sheerly through the maintenance of material order).  Also, I believe in the divine mission of the King of France, protector of the Church.  This is something much older and more serious than the nationalist mythologies that were created in the modern era.

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    You can be as proud as you want about France but if I was to defend Germany oh that's evil nationalist nαzι rhetoric!


    I have frequently defended Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist Party from what I thought were unjust and unmeasured attacks against them.  You want to paint me as a liberal so you can dismiss what I say, but the fact of the matter is that I am no such thing, certainly one of the furthest posters from Liberalism on this entire forum.  I call something nationalist when I perceive it to be nationalist.  And, yes, the I do think that the nationalism of the XIXth and XXth centuries, which you have recently decided that you agree with, are evil.  They are evil because they are a species of liberalism and are opposed to the rule of the international body of the Church under the direction of the Roman Pontiff over nations.

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    Well you French have nothing to brag about.


    No, all of our strengths are thanks to the mysterious designs of Providence rather than ourselves, praise God.

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    You have the French Revolution, you have the stupid decision of declaring war on Germany, you have the French counter-terrorist tactics of torture and reprisals against the Algerians, you have the decadent French fashion, you have Muslims right at your doorstep, etc. Need I go on?


    You can drone on as much as you want.  Your emphasis on recent failures and mistakes on the part of the French doesn't do any damage to the glories of France's historic past and divine mission born with the baptism of Clovis in 496 AD.  You should include the Quiet Revolution in Québec and the outrages wrought by Philippe le Bel against Boniface VIII while you're at it.

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    No I have no problem with you being proud about France PereJospeh because France did bring civilization to the conquered peoples of their empire...


    Civilisation... a word from the Enlightenment -- does that mean you are a liberal because you use it, or are you using it in the strict sense that the Popes have used it (though I think it was short-sighted for them to do so) ?  We certainly brought the Catholic Faith to those peoples who were incorporated into the empire of the King (though in North America this incorporation was accomplished chiefly through traditional oaths of fealty and cemented through inter-marriage with the indigenous population, much like the Roman veterans before us, who took Gallic wives).  I can't say the same for the conquests of the Republic, though I think exposing those conquered people to French culture will ultimately be turned into a good thing.

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    ...art and architecture like the Chartes Cathedral, and writers like de Maistre, I just happen to have a problem with you slandering Germans.


    Criticising is not slandering.  I criticise the Germanics chiefly because of their historical enmity to the triumph of Catholic and Roman culture throughout the world and their disruption of the peace and stability of Christendom, from the time of the Ottonian and Hohenstaufen dynasties onward to the late mediaeval, early modern, and modern periods.  This is a battle of cultures and mentalities, not of nations except secondarily, insofar as nations have gradually absorbed their entire identity (or most of their identity) in choices they have made that are inimical to the integral reign of Christ the King in a united Christendom.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 19, 2012, 08:55:04 AM »
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    « Reply #10 on: October 21, 2012, 08:32:21 AM »
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  • Quote from: Alex117
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    Yes it does, but when the Muslim refers to "Allah" he means a world of difference than when the Arabic Christian prays to Allah.

    That is true. However, when viewed in the light that "Allah" means "God", some of your writing suggestions are quite humorous, such as:

    NO ALLAH BUT GOD
    PRAY TO ALLAH GO TO HELL

    Rather than mention Allah at all, I think it would be more beneficial to write "CATHOLICISM IS THE TRUTH" or something more along those lines. If I was to see "PRAY TO ALLAH GO TO HELL" on a dollar bill, I would think that some ignorant, overtly patriotic Protestant wrote it in support of the War on Terror, or something. However, you can't get much clearer than "CATHOLICISM IS THE TRUTH".
    I think you're referring not to me but the OP.

    I would never tell anyone not to "Pray to Allah or go to hell".

    I am also not in any support of the War of Judaic/Zionist tyranny.


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    « Reply #11 on: October 21, 2012, 11:56:36 AM »
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    I think you're referring not to me but the OP.

    My mistake, I was indeed referring to the OP. I should have quoted your words and then transitioned into saying, "When viewed in this light, some of Neil Obstat's writings are quite humorous, etc." Instead, I morphed you two into the same person and replied as such!

    Please forgive me and my little brain  :fryingpan:

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    « Reply #12 on: October 23, 2012, 08:42:44 AM »
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    Doesn't "Allah" just mean "God" in Arabic? My Chaldean friend prays to "Allah" in his native language, but he is a Chaldean Catholic, not a Muslim.
    Yes it does, but when the Muslim refers to "Allah" he means a world of difference than when the Arabic Christian prays to Allah.



    Very true.

    Pope St. Gregory VII. writes such about the Mohammedans in regards to God in a latter to King Anzir (an-Nasir) of Mauretania in 1067:

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    GREGORIUS episcopus, servus servorum Dei ANZIR regi Mauritaniae Sitiphensis provinciae in Africa salutem, et apostolicam benedictionem.

    [...]

    Hanc itaque charitatem nos et vos specialibus nobis quam caeteris gentibus debemus, qui unum Deum, licet diverso modo, credimus et confitemur, qui eum Creatorem saeculorum et gubernatorem hujus mundi quotidie laudamus et veneramur.

    [...]

    Scit enim Deus quia pure ad honorem Dei te diligimus, et salutem et honorem tuum in praesenti et in futura vita desideramus. Atque ut ipse Deus in sinum beatitudinis sanctissimi patriarchae Abrahae post longa hujus vitae spatia te perducat corde et ore rogamus.


    (Migne PL, tom. 148, 45, 1., also in Mansi)


    My translation: We owe this love to each other in a special manner, opposed to other nations, as we believe and confess the one God, although in a different manner, and since we praise and venerate him daily as the creator and ruler of this world.

    [...]

    For God knows our true regard for you to his glory and how truly we desire your prosperity and honor, both in this life and in the life to come, and how earnestly we pray both with our lips and with our heart that God Himself, after the long journey of this life, may lead you into the bosom of the most holy patriarch Abraham.
    If you are a theologian, you truly pray, and if you truly pray, you are a theologian. - Evagrius Ponticus