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Offline parentsfortruth

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Damned conspiracy theorists
« on: December 29, 2013, 02:32:22 PM »
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  • http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/exposed-the-soviet-union-spent-1-billion-on-mindcontrol-program/story-fn5fsgyc-1226790700498

    Welp, so much for "oh that MK Ultra stuff is just made up." Declassified docuмents reveal that in Russia they absolutely were doing it, and to the tune of $1billion has been spent already. Incidentally, the United States was doing mirror studies at the same time that the Russians were doing it. What a coincidence!

    Exposed: The Soviet Union spent $1 billion on mind-control program

    THE race to put man on the Moon wasn't enough of a battle for the global super powers during the Cold War.

    At the time, the Soviet Union and the United States were in an arms race of a bizarre, unconventional kind - that has been exposed in a new report.

    Beginning in 1917 and continuing until 2003, the Soviets poured up to $1 billion into developing mind-controlling weaponry to compete with similar programs undertaken in the US.

    While much still remains classified, we can now confirm the Soviets used methods to manipulate test subjects' brains.

    The paper, by Serge Kernbach, at the Research Centre of Advanced Robotics and Environmental Science in Stuttgart, Germany, details the Soviet Union's extensive experiments, called "psychotronics". The paper is based on Russian technical journals and recently declassified docuмents.

    The paper outlines how the Soviets developed "cerpan", a device to generate and store high-frequency electromagnetic radiation and the use of this energy to affect other objects.

    "If the generator is designed properly, it is able to accuмulate bioenergy from all living things - animals, plants, humans - and then release it outside," the paper said.

    The psychotronics program, known in the US as "parapsychology", involves unconventional research into mind control and remote influence - and was funded by the government.

    With only limited knowledge of each other's mind-bending programs, the Soviets and Americans were both participating in similar secret operations, with areas of interest often mirroring the other country's study.



     The original scheme of transmitting and receiving bio-circuitry of the human nervous system. Picture: B. B. Kazhinskiy Source: Supplied

    The psychotronics project draws similarities to part of the controversial program MKUltra in the US. The CIA program ran for 20 years, has been highly docuмented since being investigated in the 1970s and was recently dramatised in the movie The Men Who Stare at Goats.

    Scientists involved in the MKUltra program researched the possibility of manipulating people's minds by altering their brain functions using electromagnetic waves. This program led to the development of pyschotronic weapons, which were intended to be used to perform these mind-shifting functions.

    The illegal research subjected humans to experiments with drugs, such as LSD, hypnosis and radiological and biological agents. Shockingly, some studies were conducted without the subject's knowledge.

    Kernbach's paper on the Soviet Union's psychotronics program fails to mention one thing - the results. He also doesn't detail whether there are ongoing programs in this area in the US or Russia, which became the successor state of the Russian SFSR following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, but there are suspicions.

    Putin made mention of futuristic weaponry last year in a presidential campaign article.

    "Space-based systems and IT tools, especially in cyberspace, will play a great, if not decisive role in armed conflicts. In a more remote future, weapon systems that use different physical principles will be created (beam, geophysical, wave, genetic, psychophysical and other types of weapons). All this will provide fundamentally new instruments for achieving political and strategic goals in addition to nuclear weapons," he wrote.

    The newly declassified information outlined in the report only touches on the Soviet psychotronics program and the bizarre experiments undertaken. With so much information still classified, will we ever know the whole truth?

    Indeed. :furtive:
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    Offline Thurifer

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    « Reply #1 on: January 10, 2014, 02:36:14 PM »
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  • Obviously, both were engaged in psychological and physiological experiments. This should come as no surprise and one would have to be ignorant or a fool to not conclude that they were done in tandem to understand the levers to pull in each different system. Different in many regards, but certainly not different in its approach of control by making the individual alone in the great crowd, and therefore defenseless against the those in control providing a mass culture in which individuality was mistaken as participation in a crowd.

    The USSR had its mass demonstrations at May Day and other events while we had our rock concerts to get lost in. They had their large posters of their gods, Stalin,  and Lenin, in Germany Hitler and in China it was Mao. Enlightened Americans would point and laugh at the gullibility of the masses there. After all it must be working on some level or it wouldn't be done. Yet we never figured out that it was done here for more commercial purposes. They had Stalin and Mao, we had large posters of the Marlboro Man.

    This idea Putin has about cyber wars is very interesting. Although I am not that smart to figure out what he is on about in regards to it. I do however see a well worn path being created by using the internet that is quite disturbing. That I can understand. Most notably I have been fascinated by the use of the electronic dictionary as a political tool.

    I decided to look up debauch and found a rather unique definition. Hitler was used as an example of debauchery in a sentence. Strange as it is not working now when I use this same tool in this post to look up the same word. But in the article I was reading online about Jєωs in Germany at Lasha Darkmoon's site it did come up. Maybe it was a different dictionary on my iPad. I shall have to check. It would be frightening if the on line dictionary was sensitive to the type of material one might be reading.

    I also noticed another word I looked up which I cannot recall but the definition was basically "aversion". And the sentence used was describing a person's aversion to something like capitalism. Now who could have that kind of character flaw except for a dyed in the wool Commie?

    Be on your guard with this tool as I have found some serious problems. Too numerous to recount or remember but keep your eye out for propaganda in the online dictionaries. And keep a nice old large dictionary published no later than 1970 close at hand. Of course you may even want one from the early 20th or late 19th to insure more truth in definitions.

    Either way that is where I am seeing the cyber war for now here on the ground being I am just an insignificant little Catholic malcontent. Of course this problem I describe could be had by even the best of us who never wander into true debauchery available on the internet. So it goes without saying that war is more overtly being waged with all the bad content that is available that can be harmful to our souls.  

    But a dictionary? Who would have thought? Well we better start thinking because they are now at the level of redefining words and using them for their political agenda to mold us further. I am sure it is a very good complement to assault us with as they also seem  to be using the human body as some kind of space age tuning fork.

    Yes, I think this article rings or resonates truth. I can definitely be on that wave length and feel that vibe.


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    « Reply #2 on: January 10, 2014, 07:49:03 PM »
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  •  :pc:
    You're just now noticing that the ads pumped your way on-line are directly related to anything you've downloaded, looked up, clicked on, even about which you've "privately" emailed?  Better late than never!  
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    « Reply #3 on: January 10, 2014, 09:18:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
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    You're just now noticing that the ads pumped your way on-line are directly related to anything you've downloaded, looked up, clicked on, even about which you've "privately" emailed?  Better late than never!  


    I think you have misunderstood me. I don't recall talking about ads being sent my way when browsing the internet.


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    « Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 09:30:43 PM »
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  •  :sign-surrender:Yes, I get a bit distracted after reaching hour 12 of a 14 hour work day!  Fortunately, I have Saturday off! :dancing-banana:
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    « Reply #5 on: January 10, 2014, 10:04:52 PM »
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  • It would be best to obtain as many older books as possible while it is still possible. Sooner or later they'll start getting rid of them, I've noticed that many libraries have already been "visited" as it were so that very few older books remain.

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    « Reply #6 on: January 26, 2014, 12:25:40 PM »
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  • Yes, Cuthbert, the archiving is important.  "Google Books" is a disturbing development as I wouldn't trust them with anything let along preservation of important texts.

    Hardcopies and disc copies nice to have and also double as furniture at a certain point.

    There are some very important historical texts at null