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Classified Energy Propulsion Techniques -- movie
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2013, 12:57:48 AM »
I can't take him Siriusly

Classified Energy Propulsion Techniques -- movie
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 09:02:55 AM »
Quote from: JohnGrey
Greer, like most other ufologists, is a fraud and a charlatan.  And like the rest in his field, he's built a comfortable business on bilking money from the ignorant and those that will believe anything, simply because they lack any faculties to think critically on their own.  I wouldn't trust him to give me medical treatment, but it's also not difficult to understand why he'd give up his practice given that he charges about a grand to teach one to (and this is a direct quote from some of his lecture materials) "initiate contact with ETs using consciousness, coherent thought, lasers, electromagnetic signals, and group processes."  Oh, yes, there's an enlightened soul for you.

One would have hope that twenty years of the so-called Disclosure Project and Greer himself would've yielded some kind of tangible fruit, even if only some kind of workable, testable theory.  Instead, his assertions follow the same twisted branching of logic as most in his predatory occupation: aliens exist => UFOs are aliens => UFOs possess advance technology => governments have capture UFOs => governments have advanced technology.

Of course, that all flies apart the second that you take little gray/green/reptilian/Reticulan men out of the picture.  The real problem with him and those like him is that they give no thought whatsoever to the fundamental problems in asserting that the governments of the world, or the NWO overlords that are alleged to hold their leashes, would be at all capable of reverse-engineering alien technology.

First, there's the anthropomorphic dilemma.  Aliens, the occasional anatomical grotesquery notwithstanding, are usually conceived as more or less resembling a human: bilateral symmetry; bipedal; two limbs dedicated to locomotion, two for manipulation; clustering of sensory organs.  The problem, of course, is that such conceptions patently absurd, as is the notion that their physiology would permit safe travel to and upon the Earth; this would require that they developed on a world of a specific temperature range, specific gravitation intensity, and an atmospheric similarity of laughable probability.  And that's totally ignoring the degree of unlikelihood that the placement and function of their sensory organs being virtually identical to ours.

But let's assume that all of this happen, there really are Martians, and they visited this planet, for reasons about which I wouldn't even hazard a guess.  Human leaders, shadowy and power-hungry (we've all watched a few late night episodes of The X-Files, amiright?), manage to nab one.  We find ourselves smack in the middle of the congruity dilemma.  The probability that we would be able to comprehend, let alone reproduce, technology hundreds, thousand, or tens of thousands of years ahead of our own is virtually nil.  Don't believe me?  Imagine you have a time machine (since we're already dabbling in absurdity) and an iPhone, a virtually ubiquitous device today.  You go back to three different periods, separated by orders of magnitude, 20 years, 200 years, 2000 years, and present the .  At twenty years ago, you would be hailed as a technological genius and probably create a business empire in the bargain.  At two hundred years, you'd be hailed as a prophet, and hold sway over thousands.  At two thousand years, you'd be a god.  That is until your battery ran out.  That's the problem.  We could no more understand or duplicate a gravity drive or inertial dampener than a habiline, possessing a stone club, could understand or utilize a nuclear warhead.


Great post.


Classified Energy Propulsion Techniques -- movie
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 07:17:02 PM »
I appreciate your response, JohnGrey.  

This topic has never been of much concern for me, but it's noteworthy that
a kind of industry is built around it.  On the website it says:

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Dr. Steven M. Greer, M.D., is widely regarded as the world’s foremost authority on UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence, and is the author of four insightful books and multiple DVDs on the UFO/ET subject. -

e-book store link



So, take that, and consider your first paragraph:

Quote from: JohnGrey
Greer, like most other ufologists, is a fraud and a charlatan.  And like the rest in his field, he's built a comfortable business on bilking money from the ignorant and those that will believe anything, simply because they lack any faculties to think critically on their own.  I wouldn't trust him to give me medical treatment, but it's also not difficult to understand why he'd give up his practice given that he charges about a grand to teach one to (and this is a direct quote from some of his lecture materials) "initiate contact with ETs using consciousness, coherent thought, lasers, electromagnetic signals, and group processes."  Oh, yes, there's an enlightened soul for you.
...



..and I have to ask, do you know of any "others in his field" who have made
the claim of "widely regarded as the world's foremost authority..."?

I'm not trying to pitch for Greer or anything, I just would like to know if
you have a fast answer that could save me spending hours looking at sites
I'm not really interested in.  Research isn't my forte.



As for this film, apparently you can't see it yet.  You can pay to "rent it" but
you won't be able to get "your money's worth" until it becomes viewable.  
You can "buy the DVD" but it won't be shipped probably until after the
Premiere Showing, as billed below.  So his radio appearance and interview was
pretty much a promo for the movie to hype up interest, which this post of
mine is perhaps doing for free - because he isn't paying me, that's for sure.




His online bookstore is called "MyShopify" - what's that supposed to mean?

Shopify doesn't make sense to me.  When you append -ify to a word, it
ought to be indicating a transformation of one thing into another, like
petrify or mortify or fortify or gratify or typify.  

Is it just weird - the weird shop? My Shopify - like shop here and make
yourself into a weirdo?


One of the products is a combo book-and-DVD called "Countdown to
transformation" ($24.94) - looks like this:





Here's an item that isn't being promoted front and center - and it's just
two weeks away - make that ONE WEEK away:

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                             Tickets

               Charlottesville, VA Premiere of the "Sirius" Film


When: Thursday, May 9th at 7:30 pm (EDT)

Where: The Paramount Theater

            215 E Main St  Charlottesville, VA 22902


Dr. Steven Greer will give a personal introduction to the film.


General Admission: $15

(includes Paramount Historical Preservation fee)

VIP Tickets: $100

 (includes VIP seating, admission to the after party with Dr. Greer and a donation to the Sirius new energy lab)


Please be sure to sign up for the e-mail list at www.SiriusDisclosure.com .  We will be letting people know via that e-mail list about how to view the movie, buy the DVD and about future theater showings.





Does anyone here know Charlottesville?  How big is the Paramount Theater?

Does the Theater have any info on this premiere showing on May 9th?

Maybe advance sales are doing well and no more promo is needed?



As for the "training program," here is a DVD for $155 - a lot less than $1,000:






Uuuhhh...........  that looks just like the $24.95 version, above.....(?)










Classified Energy Propulsion Techniques -- movie
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 07:48:14 PM »

I think I already know what this meditation stuff is all about:




Caption reads:
Cosmic Consciousness: A Course in Advanced
Mantra Meditation  -  $25.00



This is Eastern / Buddhist / Hindu / Shinto so-called meditation,
which is really nothing but opening the door so that the devil can
walk into your soul.  It results in demonic possession ultimately,
which explains a lot of why the world is going downhill so fast,
as we approach the Age of Antichrist, and maybe are already in
it.  Pope St. Pius X thought the Antichrist may already be in the
world 100 years ago, and it's possible that he could have been,
but since his physical appearance and body is entirely under the
control of satan, with his knowing consent as a human being,
that is, perfect possession, his age would not show, and he could
be physically hundreds of years old and still appear to be in his
20's.  I'm not making this up.  

This 'meditation' consists of 'emptying one's mind' of all normality
and thought of anything specific, so as to become entirely vulnerable
to whatever 'experience' may arrive - such as a vision or any kind
of 'mystical' feeling or dreamlike state (aka hypnosis). After one
becomes addicted or at least develops an appetite for this sort
of feeling or mood or EXPERIENCE (as JPII used to say) then the
devil can give you a little 'more', and then take it away, and keep
giving 'a little more' and keep taking it away, repeatedly, until your
resistance or sense of self-preservation breaks down and you then
give your CONSENT for him to do with you what he will - then you
are in his power.




Classified Energy Propulsion Techniques -- movie
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 07:53:14 PM »
I think Hell must be full of ufologists.  :roll-laugh2: