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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/19/boston-bombing-link-chechnya-unprecedented

Chechnya and the Boston bombing: link, if established, would be unprecedented
If Chechens perpetrated attack, it would be first outside Russia by militants from former Soviet republic


If it is established that the bombs in Boston were planted by Chechens, it would mark an unprecedented development: the first time militants from the former Soviet republic have carried out a deadly attack outside Russia.

In their long, violent struggle against the Kremlin, Chechen radicals have hit soft targets before. In 2010, two female suicide bombers from Dagestan blew up the Moscow metro, killing at least 40 people and injuring 100. A year later, another suicide bomber struck Moscow's Domodedovo airport; he killed 37 and wounded 180. There have been murderous attacks including one on a school in Beslan in 2004, where 334 hostages died, most of them children.

But the bombing of the Boston Marathon, which police suspect was perpetrated by two Chechen brothers, Dzokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, are something altogether new. It is so far unclear how significant is the trail that appears to lead from the mountains of the North Caucasus – the scene of a simmering ongoing insurgency – to the boulevards and suburban houses of North America.

After 18 years, two wars, and the loss of hundreds of thousands of civilian lives the conflict in Chechnya and Russia's southern backyard more generally has changed. From 1994 to 1996, Boris Yeltsin fought a war against mainly secular Chechen separatists who wanted – like other ethnic republics after the collapse of the USSR – their own nationalist and constitutional state. In the period 1999-2004, Vladimir Putin – Yeltsin's steely successor – fought a second Chechen war. The aim was to definitively crush Chechen separatism.

In recent years, however, the Kremlin and its regional proxies have been battling a different kind of enemy. This new generation of insurgents has an explicitly Islamist goal: to create a radical pan-Caucasian emirate ruled by Islamic law, a sort of Afghanistan under the Taliban. The movement's leader, Doku Umarov, unveiled this ambitious vision in 2007. He vowed to liberate not only Russia's Muslim North Caucasus but a large chunk of European Russia.

Umarov also suggested that devout Muslims should think internationally. His comments, later softened, said: "Today in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, and Palestine our brothers are fighting. Everyone who attacks Muslims wherever they are, are our enemies, common enemies. Our enemy is not Russia only, but everyone who wages war against Islam and Muslims."

This call to global jihad may perhaps offer a motive for an attack inside the US. The new generation of twentysomething rebels is also exploiting a powerful new weapon: the internet. The main Chechen rebel website, kavkazcenter.com, posts reports from the jihadi movement worldwide: from Syria, where Chechen diaspora fighters are battling government forces in Aleppo, from Pakistan, and from Turkey.

Over in the North Caucausus, meanwhile, the Kremlin is carrying out a brutal and rolling counter-insurgency campaign. Its focus is Dagestan, the neighbouring state to Chechnya, and now a hotbed of violent jihadist rebellion. Three weeks ago, Umarov appealed to Chechen fighters abroad to come home to take part in the fight.

Cerwyn Moore, an expert on the insurgency in southern Russia at Birmingham University, said he was surprised it may have spilled over into the US. "It's a marked change. It seems very odd. There have never been attacks like this outside Russia." He added: "You have a group of people who have lived outside Chechnya because of the second Chechen war. This is also an inter-generational thing."

Odd or not, the Boston bombings play perfectly into the Kremlin's hands, ahead of Russia's 2014 Winter Olympics, to be hosted in Sochi, not far from where the current insurgency is raging. It reinforces Putin's claim – first made in 1999 – that his violent methods are justified to quell a ruthless rebellion by terrorists prepared to take innocent lives.

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  • Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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  • Hollyweird usually uses symbolism or subliminal messages as a mockery to tell of an upcoming Blood Ritual Sacrifice. It happened with 9/11; Sandy Hook; the Colorado theater shooting; and it happened with the Boston Marathon attack . JewTube keeps taking this same clip down, but people have copied it and keep uploading it.
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    Let me get this straight- he's saying Navy Seals did this in their uniforms?

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  • Don't get me wrong, some things seem definitely off. But I think people should get real facts before they speak. I don't know why everyone is so eager to listen to Alex Jones- personally, I think his eccentricity is something to be avoided, and he has little credibility. The video had some good information, but it wasn't convincing.

    I did look this up after seeing it:
    http://www.infowars.com/police-threaten-reporters-in-boston-suburb/



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  • Russia's FSB is said to have warned US authorities about the suspects, not sure exactly how long before, basically saying "it wasn't us". The parents think the boys were set up as they were already well known to FBI. The surviving suspect is unable to speak so cannot be interviewed. Armchair explosives "experts" on the net are questioning the story about the explosives used, being that however you look at it the bombing must have had some professional input. Witnesses say there was a security drill on at that time, so the place was teeming with security personnel.

    Alex Jones OTOH is full of disinformation and should not be taken seriously on anything.

    The motive doesn't matter to the US government because they will pass whatever laws they were planning to pass and say what they will say regardless of the facts. The way Boston was locked down is the most alarming aspect so far.

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  • We just witnessed the first lock down and martial law being imposed on a major American city. The government got what they wanted. Now there is precedent for this happening in the future. WWhat's next?
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  • Boston bombers: FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844#.UXM54Yqm6hA.twitter

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  • Quote from: ascent
    Hollyweird usually uses symbolism or subliminal messages as a mockery to tell of an upcoming Blood Ritual Sacrifice. It happened with 9/11; Sandy Hook; the Colorado theater shooting; and it happened with the Boston Marathon attack . JewTube keeps taking this same clip down, but people have copied it and keep uploading it.


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  • Glenn Beck reckons Obama is hiding something (http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/beck-to-obama-come-clean-on-bombing-or-else/):

    "Apparently it has something to do with Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, a Saudi national initially questioned by police following the bombing, but since released. ... Beck claimed to have information leaked to him by “patriots” in several offices and agencies, confirming the government knows more about Alharbi that has been reported and is, contrary to media reports, to be deported for “national security” reasons."

    Also, photographs of the captured suspect's apartment have been released which are impressive in their lack of evidence to suggest that the young man was one bent on blowing people up.

    Whatever the truth of all this is, it has the hallmarks of previous terror attacks in that it occurred during a security training drill, genuine suspects are released at short notice and deported, whereas convenient but implausible suspects are essentially found guilty without trial. Now we wait for the policy phase in the problem-reaction-solution method of statecraft, which is all too predictable.

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  • http://12160.info/page/2-fbi-agents-involved-in-dzhokar-tsarnaev-s-arrest-fall-out-of-he?xg_source=msg_mes_network

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    Two members of the FBI’s elite counterterrorism unit died Friday while practicing how to quickly drop from a helicopter to a ship using a rope, the FBI announced Monday in a statement.

    The statement gave few details regarding the deaths of Special Agents Christopher Lorek and Stephen Shaw, other than to say the helicopter encountered unspecified difficulties and the agents fell a “significant distance.”

    Last month, the team was involved in the arrest of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings. And in February, it rescued a 5-year-old boy held hostage for six days in an underground bunker in Alabama.

    “Whenever things go really wrong, the FBI calls in the Hostage Rescue Team. It’s the government’s 911,” Coulson said.

    Irvin Wells, a former FBI special agent who retired in 1990 after leading the Norfolk field office for three years, stressed that the Hostage Rescue Team is different from the FBI’s regular SWAT teams. He noted that agents assigned to a field office’s SWAT team also must perform other jobs inside the bureau, while agents assigned to the Hostage Rescue Team have no other duties.


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