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Chaos coming in 100 days - whoever wins election
« on: August 30, 2016, 02:15:13 PM »
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  • (NaturalNews) The clock is ticking for America. There are 70 days remaining until the presidential election, and after the results are counted, America will be a tinderbox ready to explode no matter who wins.

    What follows is an educated analysis of the political friction now escalating in America. Note carefully that nothing in this article should be construed as any intention to call for violence of any kind. I do reference such acts, however, as part of human history as well as likely outcomes in our near future. What I’m offering here is an analysis and a warning, along with a call to prepare for what’s coming.

    If Trump wins, the left goes full terror
    As I’ve publicly predicted numerous times over the last year, if Donald Trump wins, the radical extreme leftists go on a violent rampage that leads to the rest of us begging for martial law. After half a dozen cities burn with riots and looting, Trump invokes a national emergency, deploying National Guard troops across the most devastated urban areas, and the radical left finds itself in a shooting war with the government.

    If Hillary Clinton wins, all the Trump supporters who have been violently assaulted, spat upon and physically attacked by the radical left un-holster their concealed weapons and start shooting back. This quickly escalates into open warfare between lunatic leftist Hillary supporters and armed Trump “Second Amendment” people who basically figure they’ve got nothing left to lose anyway, so why not fight to save America?

    This was all pointed out in an insightful reader comment posted to The Burning Platform on August 29th:

    With the rise of Donald Trump, the plan of the political elites has been to provoke violence and blame it on him, thus scaring the normal populace. Early-on there were the road-blockings, the threatened riots, the cancelled events in Chicago and Cincinnati, the beatings, the police ordered to “look the other way”…and it has continued: The screaming harassment and physical attacks on Trump supporters as they leave his rallies. The spitting. The intimidation. The thrown eggs. The shoves and punches. The cars blocked and damaged. The hats snatched off people’s heads, stomped on, and then burned on the ground…

    The people who support Trump are increasingly well-armed, and increasingly seething with justifiable rage. For now they hold back. Donald Trump himself has repeatedly observed that “the safest place inAmerica” for anti-Trump protesters is at Trump rallies. And that is true. For now (except for the one old cowboy who punched out the protester, he was an octogenarian outlier). Why is this? Why the docility in the face of clear provocation?

    It is because Trump supporters understand that any retaliatory violence now will be instantly, widely, and incessantly portrayed by the whorish mainstream media as proof that “Trump is dangerous” and “Trump’s movement is violent” and “Trump invites violence.” So his supporters endure the abuse. They endure the spittle. They endure the shoves and punches. They endure the theft of their possessions. They endure the damaged cars and the incessant harassment. For now, for the sake of their political movement and the candidacy of Donald Trump, they do not strike back…

    But what happens after the election? It matters not who wins. If Hillary Clinton is elected, by hook or by crook, the mass movement harnessed by Donald Trump will be free to respond to physical attacks. If Donald Trump wins the Presidency, there will similarly be no reason to continue to endure physical attacks and humiliations by the street thugs of the Democrats. Whether Trump or Hillary Clinton is in the White House, there will be no reason to hold back.

    Hundreds of millions of guns across America are now in the hands of people who are fed up with being stomped on, ridiculed and marginalized by a corrupt leftist regime that’s destroying America
    Do the math on this one: You’ve got 44% of U.S. households that now own guns (and not just one gun each, but several different types of guns). Over the last 8 years, President Obama’s anti-gun rhetoric has resulted in the largest surge of gun sales to private citizens ever recorded in American history. As a result of Obama’s criminal efforts to try to destroy the Second Amendment via fαℓѕє fℓαg operations such asOperation Fast and Furious, more Americans than ever now own battle rifles such as ARs, AKs and PTR 91s.

    People bought all these guns for a reason. And they sure didn’t buy them just to turn them over to a corrupt criminal government.

    The reader comment continues:

    Whatever happens after this Presidential election, it will have been unleashed by the corporate elites and their servants in the media and elsewhere. They will be responsible for blood in the streets… And many will cheer it.

    What the author is saying is, essentially, America is quite likely just 70 days away from the start of the next revolution… or even events that could escalate into cινιℓ ωαr.

    A Hillary victory would set off an immediate popular revolt
    If Hillary wins the election, it’s hard not to imagine some sort of popular revolt across America as the citizens reject the obvious criminality and corruption of not just the Clinton crime family but also a complicit mainstream media. The same media that has funneled millions of dollars into the Clinton Foundation also intentionally downplays all the Clinton scandals. The entire system is a corrupt, incestuous, rigged f–kfest that benefits the deceitful plutocrats whom the voters are sick and tired of seeing remain in power.

    As world history teaches us, it would only take a tiny fraction of the American people marching on Washington to overthrow the corrupt regime and install a new interim government while arresting the mainstream journalists and calling for new, open elections. So much of America is already at the breaking point now that such a move would very likely enjoy widespread support from the population at large.

    Such actions are far more common than you might suspect in other countries around the world. When the masses reach their limit on corruption and criminality at the highest levels of government, history has shown they frequently march on the capitol, arrest the traitors, and install new officials to run the government. Sometimes, these people end up being dictators or tyrants who make things worse, so such actions should never be taken lightly. Revolt should only be the very last, reluctant option after every legal, democratic method of restoring the law has been attempted and denied.

    If any of this sounds surprising to you, you probably need to study world history and read about the French Revolution, the Bolivar campaign across South America, the Fidel Castro takeover of Cuba, the CIA-instigated revolutions of Central and South American nations, the Cultural Revolution of China, and of course the American Revolution. If you don’t know anything about history, then you have no clue howhistory reliably repeats itself as human populations re-experience the same tyrannies, the same political deceptions and the same inner call for freedom that our ancestors already lived through (or died for).

    There’s nothing new under the sun… everything we are about to experience has happened before. (And the Clintons are nothing new, either. They’re the same old corrupt crony tyrants and sleaze peddlers we’ve always seen seeking power to rule over others.)

    If Trump wins, the globalist banksters crash the debt bubble to unleash mass chaos
    Now let’s shift gears and explore what happens if Trump wins the election. The day after the election results show Trump to be the clear winner, radical leftists break out into mass protests across America. But Obama is still in power at this point, and Trump won’t actually occupy the White House until early 2017. So for the remainder of 2016, Obama will open the borders wide open and even encourage as many illegals as possible to invade the USA in a final “mad dash” to the USA.

    Very soon after Trump takes office, the globalist criminal bankers willdeliberately crash the global debt bubble so they can blame it all on Trump. Supported by the lying, wholly dishonest propaganda media (CNN, WashPost, NY Times, etc.), global info-terrorists like George Soros will call for Trump’s impeachment.

    Trump, in turn, will likely call upon “Second Amendment people” to defend America against the globalist attempts to bring it down and destroy his presidency. This situation quickly escalates into a variety of skirmishes across America, which might include many events that could seem unimaginable today: Armed patriots taking over mainstream media broadcast centers, leftist terrorists bombing federal buildings, a rash of sudden “ѕυιcιdєs” of high-level Trump loyalists, organized gang assaults on local police stations, the United Nations unleashing “blue helmet” troops on U.S. soil, a “surge invasion” of illegal aliens from Mexico during a time of national vulnerability, international cyber attacks on America’s power grid infrastructure, and even widespread calls for states like Texas to secede from the union.

    Once the globalists declare open warfare against the Trump administration, all bets are off and anything could unfold over the next few years. Expect things to get very nasty, very desperate and incredibly violent. Life as you know it in America is about to be disrupted in a serious way.

    By the way, I also predict that Edward Snowden, Julian Assange andAnonymous will all play key roles in these unfolding events, exposing mind-blowing government secrets that spur populations across many western nations into escalating their action against the corrupt government regimes they’ve foolishly allowed to rule over them. Much of the real war taking place across our globe right now is a cyber war… a “war of secrets” where the hackers and cyber activists are increasingly exposing all the corruption and criminality of governments, which maintain their power by constantly lying to the public and withholding the truth.

    The political establishment as we know it today will not survive intact
    When it’s all said and done, if Trump wins the presidency, the political establishment as we know it today will be obliterated on multiple levels. For starters, the people have already lost faith in the establishment system, and if things escalate, it’s not difficult to envision a near future where Hillary Clinton is imprisoned while people like Huma, Lynch and Eric Holder are tried for treason.

    Even if Clinton does win the election and occupy the White House, the global end game is fast approaching anyway. A Clinton White House only further encourages the calls for revolt across the population, and Hillary’s deep corruption and criminality is so despised by nearly all soldiers and police officers that it’s hard to imagine her being able to demand respect from either of those groups. In fact, it’s a lot easier to imagine amilitary coup against President Clinton that it is to imagine a successful eradication of the Second Amendment by her presidency. Even if Clinton ordered police across America to go door to door and confiscate all the firearms of private citizens, what cop would be stupid enough to even attempt such a ѕυιcιdє mission?

    I can’t overstate this point: Things are at a breaking point in America, and the only thing holding back a mass revolt right now is the looming election, which presents at least a glimmer of hope to the people of America that they might beat back tyranny and government oppression with a Trump victory. If that possibility is taken from them — either by the election being stolen at the ballot box or already pre-stolen by outrageously biased media deceptions — many of them will conclude that they really have no remaining option other than “refreshing the Tree of Liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants”, to quote Jefferson.

    America has nearly reached the fulcrum of rebellion
    “We Are at a Point Where the Encroachment of Government Power Has Historically Resulted in Rebellion,” explains this article at The Daily Sheeple (originally from ZeroHedge).

    What Washington elites utterly fail to realize is that for many Americans, they have nothing else left to lose if they lose this election. They’ve already lost their job and their health coverage. In many places across America, they’re losing their own national flag and national pride. They’ve been ridiculed, condemned and spat upon by the dishonest media and the crybully leftist f–ktards, and they realize full well that if they don’t draw a line in the sand right here, right now, they’re going to be disarmed, enslaved, impoverished and named “enemies of the state” in the very same country they once fought for (and pledged allegiance to).

    The psyche of real America has reached its last straw. With the culture under attack, the Constitution demonized, religious beliefs targeted for merciless condemnation and the industrial base of America utterly gutted beyond restoration, there is nothing left to surrender to the demands of the tyrannical left. It is at that breaking point where, in the minds of many citizens throughout history, they pick up pitch forks and march en masse against the oppressors in power.

    We are very, very close to that day in America. It may, in fact, unravel in just the next 100 days. No matter who wins this election, mass violence breaks out across America in one way or another.

    Never hope for cινιℓ ωαr… be careful what you ask for
    Remember: cινιℓ ωαr would be a disaster for America, which is one reason why globalists like George Soros are pushing so hard for it. We should never wish for open bƖσσdshɛd and nationwide chaos.

    As one voice of reason commented on The Burning Platform page:

    The last cινιℓ ωαr was disastrous for the US – not just in lives and destruction of property, but in turning what had been a truly positive political structure instantly into something much more corrupt. I see no reason to think that another cινιℓ ωαr won’t do the same.

    Yes, we are being pushed towards another cινιℓ ωαr quite deliberately. Resist the push. Figure out the real problem and go after it. I do not know exactly what the problem is, but it certainly seems to be a small group of fantastically wealthy and evil people who are using the rest of us like a sociopathic 10-year-old might fry ants. These people need to be identified and blocked from power. Soros seems to be a prominent person among them, but the various other usual suspects seem likely to be the problem as well.

    Questions to ask yourself in all this
    How will you feed yourself if social chaos halts food deliveries to your local grocers?

    Do you possess a means of self-defense that does not depend on dialing 911 and praying somebody shows up to save you?

    Do you live within walking distance of the inner cities? If so, prepare to be overrun by raging, violent, angry extremists who respect no law and actually murder police every chance they get.

    Do you depend on financial payments from the federal government? How would you survive if those payments stop coming?

    If you own firearms, do you know how to use them effectively and safely? When was the last time you practiced with them, or cleaned them? Do you have spare parts? Ammo? Cleaning supplies? When was the last time you checked the battery on your red dot sight?
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    Chaos coming in 100 days - whoever wins election
    « Reply #1 on: August 30, 2016, 02:23:50 PM »
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  • The above sounds like a delusional fantasy. If Trump wins, the globalists will sit him down like they did with Reagan and tell him how it will be and that will be the end of it. If Hillary wins, life will get much worse for us as Traditional Catholics. We may even be rounded up, but I doubt that their will be any violence.


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    Chaos coming in 100 days - whoever wins election
    « Reply #2 on: August 30, 2016, 02:28:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: nctradcath
    We may even be rounded up, but I doubt that their will be any violence.

    I honestly believe that if I don't die early because of my heart condition I will probably eventually be rounded up and put into a cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ or prison and possibly be martyred. Of course there is the chance I renounce my faith out of fear and they let me go, but I hope that does not happen.
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    « Reply #3 on: August 30, 2016, 03:02:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: nctradcath
    We may even be rounded up, but I doubt that their will be any violence.


    If they attempt to round us up, that WARRANTS violence against them. Only sheep will allow themselves to be rounded up without resisting.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    « Reply #4 on: August 30, 2016, 04:16:10 PM »
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  • I can't see much of this happening, aside from more riots from urban thugs. If Hillary wins, I don't think there will be a violent retaliation from Trump supporters.

    A march on Washington doesn't sound like a bad idea, but again, I never see that happening. Not with how things are now, anyway.
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    « Reply #5 on: August 30, 2016, 04:57:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: ascent
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    We may even be rounded up, but I doubt that their will be any violence.


    If they attempt to round us up, that WARRANTS violence against them. Only sheep will allow themselves to be rounded up without resisting.


    Agreed.

    Hillary winning is one thing.

    Hillary trying to take away our guns (which violates the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution) or rounding us up as slaves for some kind of cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs (aka "FEMA camps") is another story altogether.

    When one is attacked, one has a right to defend himself.
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    « Reply #6 on: August 30, 2016, 05:07:38 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    We may even be rounded up, but I doubt that their will be any violence.


    If they attempt to round us up, that WARRANTS violence against them. Only sheep will allow themselves to be rounded up without resisting.


    Agreed.

    Hillary winning is one thing.

    Hillary trying to take away our guns (which violates the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution) or rounding us up as slaves for some kind of cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs (aka "FEMA camps") is another story altogether.

    When one is attacked, one has a right to defend himself.

    Of course you have a right to defend yourself from a lawless government but if you try to exercize that right they will murder you, your wife, and all your beautiful children just like they murdered all those people at Waco. So you will have the choice of living as a slave in a cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ or being murdered by the government. That's what I expect to happen anyway.
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    « Reply #7 on: August 30, 2016, 05:20:54 PM »
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  • Yes, some will go along with it so they can live; others will put up a fight and might be killed.

    I don't know which group I would be in, if it came to that.

    I will only say this:

    Anyone who is going to prevail (show heroic courage) in circuмstances like that, will most certainly find it easy TODAY to leave a liberalized neo-SSPX chapel, join the Resistance, and face down all the criticism he will receive from family, friends, and former parishioners.

    In other words, you have a large circle containing all those with SOME courage: those who joined the SSPX Resistance. Then you have a smaller circle, completely inside the larger circle, of those who will prevail (keep the faith, show courage, endure torture) during a future state of persecution.

    My logic for concluding this is solid and well-founded. He who can do the greater, can do the lesser.

    How can a man part with his very flesh for Christ if he can't part with the convenience of his SSPX chapel? How can he part with all his worldly possessions, when he can't even part with the SSPX chapel he has contributed towards and helped build up over the past 15 years? How can he refuse to deny Christ under torture, when he has compromised under the weak threat of human respect (harsh criticism from people at your former SSPX chapel)?

    How can a man prevail under the Antichrist or Nero, when he buckled and caved under Fr. Rostand and Fr. Pfluger? It's not possible.

    I have hope that God will help me into that inner circle -- He has already given me the fortitude to enter that larger circle. But (literally) God help those who can't even manage to enter the larger circle! If there is ever a persecution, they are toast.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 30, 2016, 05:31:36 PM »
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  • My brother-in-law, who's a police officer (he hates the word "cop"), told me to buy an AR-15, several clips, and plenty of ammo ASAP, because there will be a serious run on them if Shillary wins.
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    « Reply #9 on: August 30, 2016, 05:46:36 PM »
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  • We should all realize we are dealing with dedicated communists. Do you know what communists do? They have no problem with murdering millions of people to advance their aims. Do you know how they act on a small scale? They go into a monastery and take over. Then they take the abbot and boil him alive in a big tub of water. Then they make a soup out of him and make all the other monks eat and drink the soup. After that they murder the other monks. These are the kinds of people we are dealing with here.
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    « Reply #10 on: August 30, 2016, 06:36:25 PM »
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  • This article sounds like it's along the lines of what I read at Zerohedge yesterday.  Emphasis mine:


    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-29/what-will-happen-after-november-8th

    What Will Happen After November 8th?

    With the rise of Donald Trump, the plan of the political elites has been to provoke violence and blame it on him, thus scaring the normal populace. Early-on there were the road-blockings, the threatened riots, the cancelled events in Chicago and Cincinnati, the beatings, the police ordered to “look the other way”…and it has continued: The screaming harassment and physical attacks on Trump supporters as they leave his rallies. The spitting. The intimidation. The thrown eggs. The shoves and punches. The cars blocked and damaged. The hats snatched off people’s heads, stomped on, and then burned on the ground. All of it approvingly ignored or downplayed by the mainstream media.

    And through it all, the Trump brigades remain oddly docile.

    The elites and their leftist thugs doubtless have concluded that Trump supporters are incapable of retaliating. In other words, the elites and their supporters see the Trump movement as placid and toothless. People may be attacked and abused at will, without consequence.

    That is going to be shown to be a big mistake.

    The people who support Trump are increasingly well-armed, and increasingly seething with justifiable rage. For now they hold back. Donald Trump himself has repeatedly observed that “the safest place in America” for anti-Trump protesters is at Trump rallies. And that is true. For now (except for the one old cowboy who punched out the protester, he was an octogenarian outlier). Why is this? Why the docility in the face of clear provocation?

    It is because Trump supporters understand that any retaliatory violence now will be instantly, widely, and incessantly portrayed by the whorish mainstream media as proof that “Trump is dangerous” and “Trump’s movement is violent” and “Trump invites violence.” So his supporters endure the abuse. They endure the spittle. They endure the shoves and punches. They endure the theft of their possessions. They endure the damaged cars and the incessant harassment. For now, for the sake of their political movement and the candidacy of Donald Trump they do not strike back,

    But what happens after the election? It matters not who wins. If Hillary Clinton is elected, by hook or by crook, the mass movement harnessed by Donald Trump will be free to respond to physical attacks. If Donald Trump wins the Presidency, there will similarly be no reason to continue to endure physical attacks and humiliations by the street thugs of the Democrats. Whether Trump or Hillary Clinton is in the White House, there will be no reason to hold back.

    Fred Reed, who almost always gets it right, wrote the other day as follows:

    “It is easy to underestimate the peasantry, the little people. They appear well under control. All seems calm, unless one looks carefully. The means of control work smoothly: the legions, the church, the media, the secret police, the enforcers of political correctness. The serfs are cowed. Why worry about a distant peonage? Do we not have our castles? Let us dance and drink champagne….True, the rise of Donald Trump may disturb the elites a bit as they enrich themselves by sending more jobs abroad. But not to worry. Trump is only Mussolini by Disney and the fury his supporters feel toward New York and Washington will go away once we have Hillary in office. Fly-over land doesn’t really matter anyway.”

    Whatever happens after this Presidential election, it will have been unleashed by the corporate elites and their servants in the media and elsewhere. They will be responsible for blood in the streets.
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    « Reply #11 on: August 30, 2016, 07:18:13 PM »
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  • It would be extremely easy to starve an entire insurgent area in a few days by the powers that be by just shutting down the "just in time delivery of food, medicine, and supplies." Unless the actual military decides to back someone, the current evil regime will continue and those that resist will be cut down like dogs and martyred.

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    « Reply #12 on: August 30, 2016, 07:20:15 PM »
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  • Matto is correct. They would literally nuke an area before allowing any sort of loss of control.

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    « Reply #13 on: August 30, 2016, 07:21:36 PM »
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  • They are servants of the devil that understand to lose means Thier utter destruction. They have no moral reason not to use any and all means to destroy an enemy.