Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: California Missile  (Read 3871 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Cera

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5208
  • Reputation: +2290/-1012
  • Gender: Female
  • Pray for the consecration of Russia to Mary's I H
California Missile
« on: November 12, 2010, 05:10:20 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Here's a link to CBS on the missile fired off the California coast. Jane's is the premier expert source for information on what is and what is not a missile.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/10/earlyshow/main7040379.shtml
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary


    Offline Elizabeth

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4845
    • Reputation: +2194/-15
    • Gender: Female
    California Missile
    « Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 05:54:27 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I noticed several of Janes aircraft books in the Folio section of the library today.



    Offline RomanCatholic1953

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10512
    • Reputation: +3267/-207
    • Gender: Male
    • I will not respond to any posts from Poche.
    California Missile
    « Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 06:23:59 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • Offline RomanCatholic1953

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10512
    • Reputation: +3267/-207
    • Gender: Male
    • I will not respond to any posts from Poche.
    California Missile
    « Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 06:34:21 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Here is an another one.

    A Retired Fighter Jet Pilot of 30 years says that the
    SoCal missile was fired from a submarine:

    http://theintelhub.com/2010/11/11/that-is-a-missile-shot-from-a-submarine-tom-mcinerney-fighter-jet-pilot/

    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 31176
    • Reputation: +27093/-494
    • Gender: Male
    California Missile
    « Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 09:24:41 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Yes, it appears that the missile was fired by China as a show of force. A Chinese agency also downgraded our credit at the same time -- so it's no coincidence. It was done on purpose.


    China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California

    Wayne Madsen Report
    November 10, 2010

    Pentagon and its embedded media covering up Chinese show of force off LA

    China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.

    The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China’s leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing to Washington.

    The Pentagon spin machine, backed by the media reporters who regularly cover the Defense Department, as well as officials of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and the U.S. Northern Command, is now spinning various conspiracy theories, including describing the missile plume videotaped by KCBS news helicopter cameraman Gil Leyvas at around 5:00 pm Pacific Standard Time, during the height of evening rush hour, as the condensation trail from a jet aircraft. Other Pentagon-inspired cover stories are that the missile was actually an amateur rocket or an optical illusion.

    Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles. Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket.

    There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from  other airports in the region. The Navy and Air Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines, ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental firing from one of its own submarines.

    Missile experts, including those from Jane’s in London, say the plume was definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. WMR has learned that the missile was likely a  JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles.

    Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations.

    Japanese and other Asian intelligence agencies believe that a Chinese Jin-class SSBN submarine conducted missile “show of force” in skies west of Los Angeles.

    Asian intelligence sources believe the submarine transited from its base on Hainan through South Pacific waters, where U.S. anti-submarine warfare detection capabilities are not as effective as they are in the northern and mid-Pacific, and then transited north to waters off of Los Angeles. The Pentagon, which has spent billions on ballistic missile defense systems, a pet project of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, is clearly embarrassed over the Chinese show of strength.

    Likely route of Jin-class submarine from Hainan base.

    The White House also wants to donwplay the missile story before Presidnet Obama meets with his Chinese counterpart in Seoul and Tokyo. According to Japanese intelligence sources, Beijing has been angry over United States and allied naval exercises in the South China and Yellow Seas, in what China considers its sphere of influence, and the missile firing within the view of people in Southern California was a demonstration that China’s navy can also play in waters off the American coast.

    For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarassment, especially for the Navy’s Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan’s December 7, 1941 attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a sore subject.

    In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting Chinese General Xiong Guankai, the deputy chief of staff for intelligence of the People’s Liberation Army, for remarks he allegedly made in 1995 that China would use nuclear weapons on Los Angeles. Xiong denied he made any such comments but the “spin” on the story helped convince Congress to sink billions of additional dollars into  ballistic missile defense, sometimes referred to at “Star Wars II.”
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com


    Offline Alex

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1407
    • Reputation: +265/-4
    • Gender: Female
    California Missile
    « Reply #5 on: November 13, 2010, 03:34:00 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Oh no! I live in Los Angeles!

    Offline RomanCatholic1953

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10512
    • Reputation: +3267/-207
    • Gender: Male
    • I will not respond to any posts from Poche.
    California Missile
    « Reply #6 on: November 13, 2010, 05:21:50 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I have heard of an another missile sighting off Manhattan,
    New York City, and Newfoundland, Canada.
    There is a very clear photo of the Newfoundland
    sighting, and it is clearly a missile.

    Offline Dawn

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2439
    • Reputation: +46/-1
    • Gender: Female
      • h
    California Missile
    « Reply #7 on: November 13, 2010, 06:20:33 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • SHHH, RomanCatholic why are you trying to wake people up with the truth??? I mean the Pentagram, er I mean the Pentagon said while they do not know what it is they know it is not whatever we think it is. Good Grief.


    Offline RomanCatholic1953

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10512
    • Reputation: +3267/-207
    • Gender: Male
    • I will not respond to any posts from Poche.
    California Missile
    « Reply #8 on: November 14, 2010, 12:03:07 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • More on the SoCal Missile from a Missile Tech:

    Article

    http://www.rense.com/general92/dve.htm

    Offline Dawn

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2439
    • Reputation: +46/-1
    • Gender: Female
      • h
    California Missile
    « Reply #9 on: November 14, 2010, 04:15:39 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I know for a fact things are very dicey right now with our Asian pals. North Korea first and the China. I mean really. I heard from a son over there.

    Offline Cera

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5208
    • Reputation: +2290/-1012
    • Gender: Female
    • Pray for the consecration of Russia to Mary's I H
    California Missile
    « Reply #10 on: November 14, 2010, 08:20:11 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • In November of 2007, we learned that a Chinese sub can be undetected.


    The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

    By MATTHEW HICKLEY

    Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007

        * Comments (6)
        * Add to My Stories

    When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

    At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

    That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.

    Scroll down for more ...
    Song Class submarine

    Uninvited guest: A Chinese Song Class submarine, like the one that sufaced by the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk

    American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

    By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

    According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

    The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

    One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

    The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.

    Scroll down for more ...
    Kitty Hawk

    Battle stations: The Kitty Hawk carries 4,500 personnel

    The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.

    And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

    According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.

    It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.

    Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".

    The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.

    Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.

    Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.

    He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.

    "It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."

    In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html#ixzz15JUe5UpZ
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary


    Offline RomanCatholic1953

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10512
    • Reputation: +3267/-207
    • Gender: Male
    • I will not respond to any posts from Poche.
    California Missile
    « Reply #11 on: November 14, 2010, 10:24:46 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • We live in scary times.

    Offline RomanCatholic1953

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10512
    • Reputation: +3267/-207
    • Gender: Male
    • I will not respond to any posts from Poche.
    California Missile
    « Reply #12 on: November 17, 2010, 08:49:35 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • Offline RomanCatholic1953

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10512
    • Reputation: +3267/-207
    • Gender: Male
    • I will not respond to any posts from Poche.
    California Missile
    « Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 11:46:57 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • Offline Belloc

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 6600
    • Reputation: +615/-5
    • Gender: Male
    California Missile
    « Reply #14 on: January 06, 2011, 11:55:21 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    Pentagon calls mystery missile 'unexplained'

    Article

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/pentagon-calls-mystery-missile-unexplained-cannot-rule-out-threat/story-e6frf7jx-1225950540060


    a Neocon supporting war  :rahrah: evangelical minister I know thinks it was China, looked at me like a 2 header when I noted it may have been staged.....he always looks at "america's enemies" and never looks outside the all of them against us thinking.....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic