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Offline ProtectorofOrder

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Australia geographical location advantage?
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:17:32 AM »
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  • How would Australia fare if under attack by China or Russia in warfare? The geographical location of Australia makes it quite difficult to invade and the terrain.

    If it has a good navy and airforce many would die trying to cross the ocean or upon landing on shores but don't forget the threat of parachute drops.

    If countries don't have land borders then numbers are no advantage apparently.

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    « Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 02:58:46 AM »
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  • Why would China or Russia invade Australia?


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    « Reply #2 on: November 21, 2014, 04:13:02 AM »
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    Why would China or Russia invade Australia?


    Holds 40% of the world's uranium supply and because if a war happens since Australia is allied with the U.S and allies it would get dragged in.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 21, 2014, 05:43:24 AM »
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  • They don't need to invade to get our uranium. Australia exports all the uranium it produces.

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    Australia is a preferred uranium supplier to world, especially East Asian, markets where demand is growing most rapidly. In 2006 a bilateral agreement was concluded with China, enabling exports there, and in 2007 a similar agreement was signed with Russia, which came into force in 2010. An agreement with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) came into force in 2014, making the total 22 (covering 47 countries) and another with India is being negotiated. Australia could readily increase its share of the world market because of its low cost resources and its political and economic stability.

    http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-A-F/Australia/


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    Australia geographical location advantage?
    « Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 06:30:34 AM »
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    Other reasons they could attack could be that if dragged into a war or for ideological reasons such as imposing their system.

    The Empire of Japan bombed and tried to invade Australia once during World War 2 for example but they lost at Kokoda tracks.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 02:40:14 PM »
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    Other reasons they could attack could be that if dragged into a war or for ideological reasons such as imposing their system.

    The Empire of Japan bombed and tried to invade Australia once during World War 2 for example but they lost at Kokoda tracks.


    We are already "dragged into a war".

    Actually, more than once and in several different locations Japan bombed and tried to invade Australia. Japanese subs were in Sydney Harbour. But you have your geography wrong. Kokoda is not Australia.

    If China is to take over Australia, it will do so, not through attack in war, but economically. In fact, it is well underway. I suggest you take a ride on a Sydney bus. You might get a more realistic picture of our "geographical isolation".

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    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 03:49:34 PM »
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    Why would China or Russia invade Australia?


    Holds 40% of the world's uranium supply and because if a war happens since Australia is allied with the U.S and allies it would get dragged in.


    They would certainly no longer export their uranium if the UK -- and thus, presumably, the British Commonwealth -- were at war with China and Russia.  They would not give that advantage to the Russians and Chinese.  The latter, likewise, would be keen to take that advantage for themselves.  The Chinese Navy would make short work of the Australian, if it were not overly preoccupied with the US.  Australian iron ore and precious metals, too, would be advantages that the eastern powers would want to take away from the Commonwealth.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 05:11:21 PM »
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  • In the coming chastisement and reign of antichrist, the Chinese have the numbers:

    Apocalypse 14:17


    " Saying to the sixth angel, who had the trumpet: Loose the four angels, who are bound in the great river Euphrates.  And the four angels were loosed, who were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year: for to kill the third part of men.

     And the number of the army of horsemen was twenty thousand times ten thousand. And I heard the number of them.  And thus I saw the horses in the vision: and they that sat on them, had breastplates of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone, and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions: and from their mouths proceeded fire, and smoke, and brimstone."


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    « Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 05:26:10 PM »
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    Other reasons they could attack could be that if dragged into a war or for ideological reasons such as imposing their system.

    The Empire of Japan bombed and tried to invade Australia once during World War 2 for example but they lost at Kokoda tracks.


    We are already "dragged into a war".

    Actually, more than once and in several different locations Japan bombed and tried to invade Australia. Japanese subs were in Sydney Harbour. But you have your geography wrong. Kokoda is not Australia.

    If China is to take over Australia, it will do so, not through attack in war, but economically. In fact, it is well underway. I suggest you take a ride on a Sydney bus. You might get a more realistic picture of our "geographical isolation".


    I already knew that but Kokoda was what was between them and Australia.

    Also if you've read the news currently China along with their PLA and intelligence agency are supplying and training Communist Maoist rebels in India in hopes to install a pro-chinese government.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 24, 2014, 12:10:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: PereJoseph
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    Why would China or Russia invade Australia?


    Holds 40% of the world's uranium supply and because if a war happens since Australia is allied with the U.S and allies it would get dragged in.


    They would certainly no longer export their uranium if the UK -- and thus, presumably, the British Commonwealth -- were at war with China and Russia.


    I do not believe it is safe to presume that the Commonwealth of Nations (it hasn't been called the "British Commonwealth" for some time) would automatically follow the UK into a war.  I think the 2003 invasion of Iraq proved this when Canada, India, New Zealand, Pakistan, and South Africa, just to name a few, refused to follow the UK.  

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    « Reply #10 on: November 25, 2014, 04:16:40 AM »
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  • If sitting around dreaming up impossible future disaster/war scenarios were one of the eight cardinal virtues, Trads would be a saintly lot.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 25, 2014, 04:22:46 PM »
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  • Quote from: Dolores
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    Why would China or Russia invade Australia?


    Holds 40% of the world's uranium supply and because if a war happens since Australia is allied with the U.S and allies it would get dragged in.


    They would certainly no longer export their uranium if the UK -- and thus, presumably, the British Commonwealth -- were at war with China and Russia.


    I do not believe it is safe to presume that the Commonwealth of Nations (it hasn't been called the "British Commonwealth" for some time)...


    Well, okay, but who are we kidding ?

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    ...would automatically follow the UK into a war.


    I think that it is safe to assume that Australia and Canada, at the very least, would follow the UK into a serious war.  The only other option (besides fighting against the UK, of course) would be accommodating the new global powers that be, but I find that scenario to be less plausible than the alternative.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 25, 2014, 04:24:20 PM »
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    If sitting around dreaming up impossible future disaster/war scenarios were one of the eight cardinal virtues, Trads would be a saintly lot.


    And imagine if cynicism and arrogance were virtuous.  An Englishman like you would be in a pretty good position.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 25, 2014, 05:46:54 PM »
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    And imagine if cynicism and arrogance were virtuous.  An Englishman like you would be in a pretty good position.


    Good shot, Pere Joseph.

    BTW, has anybody else here noticed just how much more animosty there is in the air in the last day or so?

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    « Reply #14 on: November 26, 2014, 05:38:18 PM »
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    If sitting around dreaming up impossible future disaster/war scenarios were one of the eight cardinal virtues, Trads would be a saintly lot.


    Materialist greed and atheism are the biggest killers in this world with hundreds of millions dead from it.

    It's not impossible. Australia literally follows the U.S and U.K along with allies into every single war. Tony Abbott made threats against Vladimir Putin and is preparing to send the Australian army to prepare to fight against Russia in Ukraine if something happens. That's why Putin sent the warships to show off during G20 and may send more near Australia for possible exercises and to prepare for climate research South of Australia in Antarctica.

    We're one of the first countries to volunteer to enter the war in Iraq and ISIS declared war against us and citizens.

    Why did Japan try to invade last time? Not impossible. This nation's mines hold 31-40% of the world's nuclear supply.

    Stop being so arrogant.

     

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