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Anti-Putin protestors beaten in Russia
« on: April 16, 2007, 09:23:21 AM »
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  • Putin is bad news, I'm telling you. There is 0% chance that Russia has real democracy right now. Every story I've read says that Putin is like a dictator -- they are bringing back the Soviet-style government (if they ever lost it)

    Remember, the "meaty part" of the 3rd Secret talks about Russia overrunning Europe. THAT'S why the last couple popes have been timid about releasing the real Secret. They think it will "embolden" the Russians to make their move, because the Mother of God predicts their success.

    ST PETERSBURG, Russia (Reuters) - Russian riot police beat anti-Kremlin demonstrators with batons in the tourist heart of St Petersburg on Sunday, a day after authorities snuffed out a similar protest in Moscow.

    The violence began as some 500 demonstrators calling for the resignation of President Vladimir Putin moved towards a railway station after the end of an officially permitted protest.

    Police wearing blue urban combat uniforms and crash helmets moved into the crowd, arrested some of the protesters and pushed others to the ground and hit them with batons, a Reuters witness said.

    "Stop the beating," demonstrators shouted at the police. "Fascists. How much did Putin pay you?"

    The police herded around 150 protesters into police vans, and continued to hit some of them with batons inside the vans. The city authorities had allowed the protesters to hold a meeting, but had banned a march.

    Opponents of Putin, acting under the umbrella organization Other Russia, had planned two rallies over the weekend. Authorities banned the main rally on Saturday in Moscow and detained several hundred protesters there, including former world chess champion Garry Kasparov.

    Other Russia brings together Kremlin opponents from across the political spectrum, from liberals to communists. They say Putin has trampled on democratic freedoms and they demand a free and fair presidential election in 2008.


    Other Russia has only marginal influence as the vast majority of Russians support Putin, whose seven years in power have been marked by huge oil and commodity wealth and the return of national pride after the chaotic post-Soviet 1990s.

    On Sunday about 3,000 protesters watched by hundreds of riot police gathered in a central St Petersburg square for the second anti-Kremlin demonstration.

    The mobile phone network had been blocked and police trucks mounted with water cannon were parked in side streets.

    "Freedom!" the protesters shouted. "Putin is the enemy of the people."

    "Our demand is the resignation of the government and the president and free and fair elections this year and next," the leader of the left-wing National Bolshevik party, Eduard Limonov, told the crowd.

    Russia holds parliamentary elections this year and a presidential election in 2008.

    Earlier police had detained dozens of protesters heading towards the rally, protest organizers said.

    "Police detained me as soon as I left my house this morning," rally organizer Olga Kurnosova, leader of Kasparov's political party in St. Petersburg, told Reuters by telephone from police custody.

    "They have also detained dozens of others at the train station and on their way to the rally."

    In March riot police used batons to break up a march by Putin opponents who blocked one of St. Petersburg's main roads.
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    Anti-Putin protestors beaten in Russia
    « Reply #1 on: April 16, 2007, 12:11:36 PM »
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  • London-based Mr Berezovsky told the Guardian newspaper on Friday that he was putting together a "revolution" to overthrow the Russian president, although he has since clarified his remarks by stating he is seeking "bloodless"revolution.

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    "Our demand is the resignation of the government and the president and free and fair elections this year and next," the leader of the left-wing National Bolshevik party, Eduard Limonov, told the crowd.

    Chant, I can not find this encouraging if the above group is involved. Looks like Berezovsky is getting his 'revolution'.

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    Anti-Putin protestors beaten in Russia
    « Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 01:25:46 PM »
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  • A fake Zionist "prophesy" says a Russian will lead an army of Persians to attack Israel and that God will save them.

    This of course is carried out by the same Jews who formed the Russian Bolsheviks and also the Zionist Israelis.  (I assume we can put 2 and 2 together and see this "prophesy" for what it really is)

    Didn't part of the Secret talk about soldiers gunning down the Pope?
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    Anti-Putin protestors beaten in Russia
    « Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 09:45:51 AM »
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  • The US-Israel-Oligarch
    Plan To 'Take Out' Putin
    Voice of the White House

    On Thursday, March 15, a meeting was held in a private suite at the Hay-Adams hotel in Washington.
    This meeting was attended by CIA and CIA-based Mossad personnel, a Russian/Israeli representative of Boris A. Berezovsky, an Israeli citizen formerly a Russian citizen, representatives of Mikhail Brudno and Vladimir Duboy, also Israeli citizens and once major holders in Yukos, the Russian oil giant. Also present was a personal representative of Vice President Cheney.

    The meeting was under clandestine electronic surveillance and it quickly emerged that the purpose of this meeting, which commenced after a luncheon served in the rooms and began at 1425 hours, was to discuss the means by which Vladimir Putin, President of the Russian Republic, was to be removed from office, either through extensive civil disruption or assassination.
    The former Russian/Israeli oil and business oligarchs had been effectively removed from power by Putin, following the departure of Russian President, Boris Yeltsin. Yeltsin had been effectively supported by the CIA and when in office, denationalized the very important Russian oil and gas fields, permitting the so-called Oligarchy (of which Berezovsky, Brudno, Duboy and others, were part and parcel.)

    Their known aim was to gain complete control over these natural resources with the aid of their co-rerligionists in the World Bank (now run by another co-religionist, Paul Wolfowitz) the IMF and the Israeli-controlled Bank of New York. The method was to improve the fields' production capacity with loans from American and British oil companies and then sell controlling interests to both entities.
    These plans were frustrated by Putin, and the immensely wealthy oligarchs stripped of their holdings and run out of the country. Most of them fled to Israel with as much money as they could abscond with and where they are now living, completely safe from any criminal prosecution, while Berezovsky fled to England where he is currently resident.

    Berezovsky, born on 23 January, 1946, he and his associates gained the support of Yeltsin and he personally took over control of the state controlled AutoVAZ car business, Aeroflot, the Russian airline and several very rich natural resources, later reorganized into Sibneft. These acquisitions were accomplished by bribery, extortion and outright theft and were all protected by the Yeltsin people. He also was able to seize control of important segments of the Russian media which he used to support the 1996 Yeltsin presidential campaign. This media conglomerate also included the TV6 and Ort television channels and the large-circulation newspapers, Novye Izbestiya, Nezavisimaya Gazeta and Kommersant.

    Acting on information from the Israeli Mossad, Berezovsky established contact with Neil Bush, the very corrupt younger brother of the President and became a very heavy investor, since 2003, in Bush's computer company, Ignite! Learning. The two have met, in Europe and the Baltic areas, a number of times subsequently.
    Berezovsky then became heavily involved in the political situation in the Ukraine in 2005. Working in cooperation with elements of the CIA who were under orders from the Vice President Cheney to "destabilize the pro-Russian government of the Ukraine " and seek to bring it under the aegis of NATO with especial emphasis on gaining the oil rights in the Donets Basin and, most importantly, to secure the oil and gas pipeline systems running from Russia to eastern Europe. Berezovsky financially supported Viktor Yushchenko and transferred "significant amounts of cash" from his London bank accounts to the Yushchenko campaign. Such foreign interference is illegal under current Ukrainian laws.

    Although Yushchenko was elected, political activity sponsored by Russia made it impossible for the U.S. interests to either secure control over Ukrainian pipelines or gain access to the natural resources of the Donetz basin.
    Following this very expensive debacle, Yuschenko then turned his attention to projects designed to either physically eliminate Putin or drive him from office. He stated in a public interview in January of 2006 that he was fully intent in overthrowing Putin, a goal heartily supported by Vice President Cheney who personally hates Putin and is under pressure from his friends in the oil industry to remove a man who not only snatched control over the rich Russian natural resources from them but has actively blocked their continuing efforts to somehow get their hands on Russian oil and gas.
    Well aware of Berezovsky's activities (the Russian intelligence services have long ago penetrated Israeli intelligence organs, a number of Berezovsky's minions have either vanished without a trace or, like his co-religionist, ex-Russian FBB intelligence officer and alleged "reporter," A. Litvinenko, was poisoned by a dose of radioactive material as were two other Russian "reporters" and in Washington, an anti-Putin former CIA official was shot in front of his house and the entire episode covered up by the American press.

    Although these deaths should have warned not only Berezovsky and his allies, they apparently learned nothing and are now working to overthrow Putin and restore the oil and gas interests to status quo pre-Putin.
    As early as August, 2003, tentative plans were being developed between the CIA, the Mossad and dissident groups inside Russia, plans that later were formalized in Washington with the blessing of Cheney. During the course of the 7th International Workshop held in Helsinki, Finland, at the Sonera Conference Center in that city, meetings were held between a CIA official using the name of Roger Simkins, his Israeli opposite number, Rahm Gittlesohn, a Mossad agent attached to the Israeli embassy and Moshe Sitkovetsky, an Israeli-based agent of Berezovsky. These "initial exploratory talks" lasted off and on for two days and were later continued on six separate occasions, five of these in London and the last one in Washington.

    An organization was created, called 'Another Russia' and contact was made with Eduard Limonov who heads the National Bolshevik Party. Berezovsky has no problem using this man but the Vice President, who is strongly anti-Communist, has objected to the inclusion of Limonov. Berezovsky hates Putin for destroying his empire and has on several occasions labeled the pro-German Putin as a "nazi.' He also has advocated the killing of Putin's daughters "as a warning" to the Russian president but to date, this project has received little attention.

    The current plan is to have 'Another Russia' begin a series of disruptive public protests, utilizing students; former Communists; and some members of Russia's rapidly shrinking Jewish community. There have been active discussions about what kind of articles will appear in the American media (anti-Putin) and, of course, non-documented promises of large cash rewards to the leaders of the opposition in the event of their so disrupting Putin that he will resign. In the event that he retaliates, it is hoped that he does so in front of cameras and at the same time, a plan is being formulated to shoot him in the Crimea while on vacation and blame it on Ukrainians.

    It is to be stressed that both the United States and Israeli governments are fully in accord with the thrust of these plan. If, on the other hand, the British government were to become aware, at least officially, that these plots were being conducted from British soil, the consequences for Berezovsky could be very serious and it was put forward that as friendly an ally as PM Blair has proven to be to U.S. interests, it would not be productive to attempt to enlist British cooperation.


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