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Title: Akita prophesy
Post by: Änσnymσus on August 03, 2021, 02:38:25 PM
Hi, I'm a great believer in the Akita prophesy.

Do you think this will be during the vaccine rollout? 
Perhaps to stop it from happening to children? 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Änσnymσus on August 03, 2021, 02:39:20 PM
*** I'm talking about the fire falling from the sky , spearing neithe the good or bad 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: DigitalLogos on August 03, 2021, 02:44:12 PM
No one knows. When it happens, it will happen.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Änσnymσus on August 03, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
*** I'm talking about the fire falling from the sky , spearing neithe the good or bad



With a lot of Jєωs and masons fleeing in fear and desperation, hoping to save the booty they stole from the Gentiles?   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Änσnymσus on August 03, 2021, 03:58:30 PM
Is Akita an approved vision by the Church?
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Änσnymσus on August 03, 2021, 04:00:59 PM
Is Akita an approved vision by the Church?
Yes it is. Though I dont know by the New Church or the Real Church. Everything in it rings true with catholic teaching and other approved apparitions. 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Änσnymσus on August 03, 2021, 04:02:35 PM
Is Akita an approved vision by the Church?

Technically yes, because Bishop Ito of Akita, ordained pre Vatican II, approved it after some lengthy investigation.

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Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Mark 79 on August 03, 2021, 05:33:50 PM
For me the most chilling part of the prophesy is that the survivors will envy the dead.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Änσnymσus on August 04, 2021, 04:21:11 AM
Amen to that!!!

Whenever I start to worry about it though, I just remember that whatever happens to me/my family...God has allowed it for a purpose; and that He is in control and will take care of us.  
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Änσnymσus on August 04, 2021, 05:23:02 AM
"the survivors will envy the dead" reminds of

Quote
And in those days men shall seek death, and shall not find it: and they shall desire to die, and death shall fly from them.

St. John, Revelation, chapter 9
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Tallinn Trad on August 05, 2021, 02:46:01 AM
I think a lot of people see stuff to give their Catholic faith some meaning and to get attention.  I see no reason to be concerned about Akita or any of these other visions.  And I dislike superstition.  Our role is to love God and keep his commandments.  Not worry about fire from the sky or the ramblings of Japanese nuns. 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Matthew on August 05, 2021, 06:46:11 AM
I think a lot of people see stuff to give their Catholic faith some meaning and to get attention.  I see no reason to be concerned about Akita or any of these other visions.  And I dislike superstition.  Our role is to love God and keep his commandments.  Not worry about fire from the sky or the ramblings of Japanese nuns.

Except that a Chastisement is coming, and there ARE such things as approved Marian apparitions.

No, it's not a good policy to ignore Blessed Mother completely, just to make sure you "get" 100% of the fake apparitions caught in your ignore net.

If she appears on Earth, it's for a good reason.

There are some sedes that seriously downplay Fatima, I suppose because it makes their position problematic (how can the pope consecrate Russia if there is no pope, and/or there are only 5 bishops left in the world)

You're not one of those, are you?
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Matthew on August 05, 2021, 06:46:50 AM
Moved to a more appropriate sub-forum.

There is absolutely NO reason for this thread to be anonymous.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Romulus on August 05, 2021, 12:35:24 PM
I think a lot of people see stuff to give their Catholic faith some meaning and to get attention.  I see no reason to be concerned about Akita or any of these other visions.  And I dislike superstition.  Our role is to love God and keep his commandments.  Not worry about fire from the sky or the ramblings of Japanese nuns.
They are a warning to do penance and pray. There is good reason why Our Lady sends these messages and I don't think she is happy that people throw her messages and warnings under the bus.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: songbird on August 05, 2021, 07:01:57 PM
Cardinal Manning and Pope Leo XIII discussed the possibility that a nominated pope can change his tune in his pontificate.  Well, sure.  So, is it possible that Pope Pius XII showed his change of tune, in his pontificate when Heaven asked for a consecration and then he did in half-measure? Now is he an acting pope, serving God?
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Incredulous on August 05, 2021, 07:26:19 PM
Cardinal Manning and Pope Leo XIII discussed the possibility that a nominated pope can change his tune in his pontificate.  Well, sure.  So, is it possible that Pope Pius XII showed his change of tune, in his pontificate when Heaven asked for a consecration and then he did in half-measure? Now is he an acting pope, serving God?

I see Pius XI's papacy as the key juncture for Church men to have taken action. 

He had missed so many opportunities:  Abandoning the Cristeros, Banning Action Francaise, and Neglecting the Fatima Consecration.

Fatima was officially approved by the Church (Bp. Leiria) on 10-13-1930.

I don't have the source, but a trad friend told me he had read where on his deathbed, Pope Pius XI spoke to an unseen entity. 
He was heard to say:  "It was not my intention".

Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: gladius_veritatis on August 05, 2021, 10:25:12 PM
There are some sedes that seriously downplay Fatima, I suppose because it makes their position problematic (how can the pope consecrate Russia if there is no pope, and/or there are only 5 bishops left in the world)

Having moved among SVs for decades, I can honestly say I have never met a single one who downplayed Fatima at all.  I mean the CMRI has had a massive Fatima conference annually for 50+ years!

There is a long list of Popes/"Popes" -- V2/post-V2 and pre-V2 -- who clearly downplayed it, otherwise the Consecration would have been done.  Try that thought on for size...
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Incredulous on August 06, 2021, 11:05:35 AM
Having moved among SVs for decades, I can honestly say I have never met a single one who downplayed Fatima at all.  I mean the CMRI has had a massive Fatima conference annually for 50+ years!

There is a long list of Popes/"Popes" -- V2/post-V2 and pre-V2 -- who clearly downplayed it, otherwise the Consecration would have been done.  Try that thought on for size...

Someone should map the sede groups and their beliefs.

And categorize them as soft, moderate and hardcore.

I would classify the Dimonds and Matatics as hardcore and there must be others?

The Dimonds are notorious for their anti-Fatima thesis published around 2006, claiming the Consecration of Russia was already done.

They used incredible sleight of hand in the storyline, leaving one to ask if the Dimonds are nothing more than a front for Jєω ghostwriters? 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: MMagdala on August 06, 2021, 03:30:33 PM
Someone should map the sede groups and their beliefs.

And categorize them as soft, moderate and hardcore.
Also good topic for a poll:  Do you classify yourself as SV, and for those who said yes, are you soft, moderate, or hardcore?
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Tallinn Trad on August 16, 2021, 01:34:49 PM
Except that a Chastisement is coming, and there ARE such things as approved Marian apparitions.

No, it's not a good policy to ignore Blessed Mother completely, just to make sure you "get" 100% of the fake apparitions caught in your ignore net.

If she appears on Earth, it's for a good reason.

There are some sedes that seriously downplay Fatima, I suppose because it makes their position problematic (how can the pope consecrate Russia if there is no pope, and/or there are only 5 bishops left in the world)

You're not one of those, are you?
A Japanese nun who goes to the new mass, sees a statue to a false vision in Amsterdam weeping "tears" and they all claim it is a miracle.
Then a modernist Bishop approves it.
Japanese people are a touch too emotional for me.  Crazy people.
Approved by the Bishop.  So what?  John Paul and Paul VI are "saints" too.  But I think they are BOTH in Hell.
I believe in Fatima.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Tallinn Trad on August 16, 2021, 01:39:29 PM
And Bishop Williamson thought Garabandal was true.  It was certainly more credible than Akita.

Yet Joey Lomangino is dead, Padre Pio is long dead and would be 133 and we are on Pope number 5.

He does not talk about Garabandal any longer and has not since Lomangino's death.

Conchita CLEARLY does not know the date of the miracle.  Or she is unreliable AND completely useless at basic arithmetic. 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: xavierpope on August 16, 2021, 01:42:52 PM
I believe in Akita as it warned against communion on the hand ( if you read the full story )
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Incredulous on August 17, 2021, 10:25:46 AM
A Japanese nun who goes to the new mass, sees a statue to a false vision in Amsterdam weeping "tears" and they all claim it is a miracle.
Then a modernist Bishop approves it.
Japanese people are a touch too emotional for me.  Crazy people.
Approved by the Bishop.  So what?  John Paul and Paul VI are "saints" too.  But I think they are BOTH in Hell.
I believe in Fatima.
You simplify it too much.  

There are some key details to discern:

1. Card Ratzinger stated the Japanese are 20 years behind Europe in adapting to changes in the liturgy.  

2. 1973 was when Akita started and Sr. Sasegawa was a convert novice at the time of the first apparition.

3. While the Japanese woodcarver who made the weeping statue was commissioned to model it after “Our Lady of All Nations” , the whole set of miracles had nothing to do with Amsterdam.

I’m in agreement that the Jєωess who started The Amsterdam cult was a fraud.

4. Our Lady of Akita’s messages were hard hitting.  No nicey Novus ordo talk there.  In fact, it was more severe than Fatima.

BTW, There is a growing cult of sedes & trads that believe the Fatima consecration was done in 1952.

Botched as it was, they think we’ve had the era of peace during the last 70 years and that we’re going into chastisement next.  We can forget about Russia converting and destroying the Jєωιѕн mafia.

Those same people should study Akita.   Our Lady is very severe in foretelling that the fires will be worse than the Deluge... unless they convert.

They can put that in their pipes and smoke it.  
  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: remy on August 20, 2021, 07:12:56 PM
Events foretold by Our Lady of Fatima already happened.

The Fatima cultists cling on to this past and live their lives waiting for it to happen. Just look what happened in the 20th century. How can you not see it already happened? But you don't want to move on, do you?

"Muh Fatima !!!" ... "Muh Consecrate Russia !!!"

Time to move on and prepare. Something worse is coming.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: DigitalLogos on August 20, 2021, 07:33:54 PM
Events foretold by Our Lady of Fatima already happened.

The Fatima cultists cling on to this past and live their lives waiting for it to happen. Just look what happened in the 20th century. How can you not see it already happened? But you don't want to move on, do you?
I agree. I believe Pope Pius XII did do the Consecration, imperfectly, much like King Louis XVI did the consecration of France to the Sacred Heart in his cell during the Revolution. But, it was too late, and while it was done, the forecasted chastisements still occurred.

Had it been done by Pius XI, we might live in a very, very different world today. And now I believe the temporal effects of this failure have manifested into what the "Church" is today and the world is transforming into.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Marion on August 20, 2021, 07:34:07 PM
I believe in Akita as it warned against communion on the hand ( if you read the full story )

Forgot to warn against the heretical Novus Ordo sect.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: remy on August 20, 2021, 07:41:18 PM
Most of the Fatima industry (and Newchurch) will die when the Boomer generation finally dies off. It's mostly the Boomers keeping both industries afloat with their Sunday tithes and wills, and patronages to Fatima. Newchurch is a zombie. It's already dead but it's still able to walk like a drunken freak by the donations of Boomers. This is another metric that we are nearing the end times. The Whore of Babylon (Newchurch) doesn't have much longer to whore around. 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Incredulous on August 20, 2021, 11:26:15 PM
Events foretold by Our Lady of Fatima already happened.

The Fatima cultists cling on to this past and live their lives waiting for it to happen. Just look what happened in the 20th century. How can you not see it already happened? But you don't want to move on, do you?

"Muh Fatima !!!" ... "Muh Consecrate Russia !!!"

Time to move on and prepare. Something worse is coming.

Yeah, timid Popes had it their way.  
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.kUNX-hoTBWrZpsTS_ZXxjgHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

They told Our Lord and Our Lady of Fatima to take a hike.

You might as well get Last Rites and take the vax... cause the devil outmaneuvered us.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Matthew on August 20, 2021, 11:40:25 PM
Events foretold by Our Lady of Fatima already happened.

The Fatima cultists cling on to this past and live their lives waiting for it to happen. Just look what happened in the 20th century. How can you not see it already happened? But you don't want to move on, do you?

"Muh Fatima !!!" ... "Muh Consecrate Russia !!!"

Time to move on and prepare. Something worse is coming.

> Muh 4chan!

This isn't 4chan, buddy.

Fatima is a crucial and approved apparition. The most important Marian apparition for OUR age.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Ladislaus on August 21, 2021, 08:21:24 AM
> Muh 4chan!

This isn't 4chan, buddy.

Fatima is a crucial and approved apparition. The most important Marian apparition for OUR age.

And, no, the events at Fatima have not all happened yet ... unless you believe Wojtyla, Ratzinger, and the fake Sister Lucy, where the whole thing was just about the failed assassination attempt on Wojtyla.

Now, much of it has already happened.  Clearly the Third Secret was about Vatican II.  But the final Triumph of the Immaculate Heart after a consecration meeting Our Lady's requirements ... that is yet to come, clearly.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: xavierpope on August 21, 2021, 08:45:39 AM
I don't understand what our lady's triumph is ?

Didn't Lucia say " in these last times, an new efficacy will be added to the rosary" 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Incredulous on August 21, 2021, 12:01:58 PM
And, no, the events at Fatima have not all happened yet ... unless you believe Wojtyla, Ratzinger, and the fake Sister Lucy, where the whole thing was just about the failed assassination attempt on Wojtyla.

Now, much of it has already happened.  Clearly the Third Secret was about Vatican II.  But the final Triumph of the Immaculate Heart after a consecration meeting Our Lady's requirements ... that is yet to come, clearly.

From the following analysis on an actual remnant copy of the Third Secret, I believe Atila deciphered it (below).  

His native Portuguese language and his career, dedicated to Catholic scholarship make him uniquely qualified to weigh in on the matter.

He concludes, the horror of the 3rd Secret is that the Pope praises the devil.  

This version of the Secret was publicly confirmed when Francis praised the pachamama earth idol.


Trying to Decipher a Scrambled Message
Atila S. Guimarães

Encouraged by the verdict (https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g32ht_Analyst.htm) of a famed Spanish graphologist affirming the authenticity of the Sister Lucy’s handwriting in the “Third Secret’ of Fatima we posted in April 2010  (https://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/B352_Secret.html)on our website, I have returned to analyze it more carefully.

Note: To follow this analysis in an easier way, print the larger text here (https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_Secret_2lg.jpg)

I always had suspicions regarding the date April 1, 1944 (line 1), April Fools’ Day, which most probably should have been January 4, 1944, and by the ill-sounding expression “the Cathedral of Rome” (line 21), which to make sense should be “Cathedra or Chair of Rome” signifying the Holy See. Some days ago I started to scrutinize that “Third Secret” looking for more traces of a possible falsification.

I found some and worked with them. It is the fruit of this labor that I pass on to my readers in this article.

Before starting, let me say that the analysis that follows has four presuppositions:
Inconsistent indentations of the paragraphs

One of the first good impressions I had when reading this message is the discipline of Sr. Lucy's writing. Her handwriting is quite regular, possibly having a lined paper under her letter to orient her. She also made paragraphs with a very marked and consistent indentation, possibly also following that marked paper underneath.


(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G032_Secret3.jpg)A strange inconsistency: no indentation on the 3rd paragraph
This style of indentation can be noticed in paragraphs one and two; then, suddenly, paragraph three lacks an indentation. The same indentation returns again in paragraphs four, five, six and seven. Paragraphs eight and nine also are not indented.

The lack of indentation in the last two paragraphs can be easily explained: She was reaching the end of her letter and probably wanted to keep the message on a single page. So, she dispensed with the indentation and contracted her handwriting. This makes sense.

But why didn’t she use indentation in paragraph three, when she was still at the beginning of her letter? It is difficult to imagine that she would be careless in a letter revealing a secret about the most important episode that happened in her life. Added to this, she was writing, under the command of the Bishop, a message to be delivered to the Pope. It is almost impossible to believe that she would be hasty or careless in the presentation of her letter.

Considering this, I thought: Something looks strange to me in the unindented paragraph three. It could reveal the presence of a falsifier who introduced some texts and, for this reason, was obliged to eliminate the indentation and diminish the space between the words in that paragraph.

With this suspicion in mind, I went on to check another oddity that appears in paragraph two.

Empty spaces & poor grammar

When I analyzed line 6, I saw that there is a large empty space after the word “louvando-o” [praising him]. Now then, the phrase of line 7 that starts with the word “mas” [but] appears to be another paragraph without indentation, but actually it is the continuation of line 6. Why would she leave this long space and continue the thought on a new line without indenting it? It makes no sense.

A useful parallel observation: Throughout this message, Sr. Lucy’s “m” in lower case looks like a capital “M” for starting a word. It is a peculiarity of her handwriting. This can be noticed in line 4, the 3rd word – “mostrou-nos” [she showed us] – and in line 10, the 4th word and the last word – “mas” [but] and “modo” [way]. In line 16, the “m” in the 2nd word –“mas” – looks correct in lower case.

So, whether we consider the first word “mas” in line 7 as written in upper case as coming after a period or in lower case as coming after a coma, it is the logical continuation of the phrase of line 6:


(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_2par3.jpg)line 4 - (indentation) Our Lady showed us the individual
line 5 - who I describe as the 'holy Father' in front of a multitude
line 6 - that was praising him. [STRANGE LONG EMPTY SPACE]
line 7 - but there was a difference from a true Holy Father
Therefore, a long space should not exist between the last word of line 6 and the first word of line 7. Since it exists, this conclusion seems indisputable: Someone deleted a part of line 6 and did not replace it with anything else.

At this point, the hypothesis of a falsifier becomes much more probable.

Another strong suspicion came to my mind looking at the words of line 6: “que estava louvando-o” [that was praising him]. In Portuguese the end of this phrase sounds awkward. Grammatically speaking the correct usage would be “que o estava louvando.”

It is bad grammar in Portuguese to end a phrase with the pronoun “o.” Why would Sr. Lucy do this? She most probably had good Portuguese, as I can surmise from her other writings. As a Brazilian, I have personally observed that in Portugal even the simple people speak and write very good Portuguese.

Therefore, this placement of the pronoun “o” seemed suspicious to me. If the hyphen in “louvando-o” [praising him] were removed, the pronoun “o” [him] would change its meaning and become the article “o” [the].

For a falsifier, it would be a very simple matter to insert a small hyphen in “louvando-o.

So, I deleted the hyphen and the phrase completely changed its meaning. Instead of the translation of lines 5 and 6 being “the ‘holy Father’ in front of a multitude that was praising him,” I found another meaning: “the ‘holy Father’ in front of a multitude that was praising the…” The what or whom?

Something is missing here. It certainly looked as if the falsifier had inserted that little hyphen to hide the indirect object of the original phrase of Sr. Lucy.

I searched for an indirect object that would fit into that incomplete phrase. I found it in line 8: The two words “do demônio” [of the devil] seemed superfluous. I translate lines 7 and 8 to make my point.


(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_3ls7-8.jpg)line 7 - but there was a difference from a true Holy Father, his gaze
line 8 - of the devil, this one had the eyes of evil.
If I remove the words “do demônio” [of the devil] from the phrase above, it continues to perfectly express what Sr. Lucy wanted to say. So, I thought: These superfluous words could be the ones that the falsifier deleted from line 6 and moved to line 8. So, I placed the extra words in line 6 to see how they would read. I also deleted the neck of the "d " of "do" to make it "ao," because I suspected that the neck could also have been introduced.

It became something terrible: “the ‘holy Father’ in front of a multitude that was praising the devil.” In Portuguese there is a nuance in the expression “em frente” that is not fully translated by the English equivalent “in front of.” It can also mean “leading.” So, the translation would be “the holy Father leading a multitude that was praising the devil.”


(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_4ls5-6.jpg)line 5- Church of hell, and an individual who I describe as the 'Holy
line 6- Father,' leading a multitude that was praising the devil.
If this was the original text of Sr. Lucy, she made one of the most violent accusations against a Pope ever made in History. And if this accusation came from the Mother of God, then the Pope would be in serious trouble.

If this was, indeed, the original message, it would clearly explain why John XXIII did not reveal this message and would have asked a falsifier to scramble it in a way that would be very difficult to decipher in case it were found.

It also would explain the words of Card. Ottavianni, which I paraphrase: John XXIII ordered the Third Secret to bury the secret in a deep, deep well so that no one could ever find it. Metaphorically speaking, wouldn’t this scrambling of the original text be the “well” he mentioned?

Rebuilding paragraph two

Even after placing “ao demônio” in line 6, I saw that there was still an empty space. What could fill it appropriately? I searched for more superfluous words in the other parts of the message.

In line 10, I found the word “Ygreja” [Church] used three times in a redundant way, entirely unnecessary for the idea to be clear.


(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_5ls9-10red.jpg)line 9 - Then, after some moments we saw the same Pope entering
line 10 - a Church, but this Church was the Church of hell; there is no way

There are too many repetitions of the word Church. Also, line 10 is very crowded and squeezed. So, I thought: Another insertion was made here; let me see from where it was taken. I started to look for a place where the word Church could fit well.

I believe I found the right place in line 4. Let me explain.

Line 4 was another awkward construction. It reads: “Nossa Senhora mostrou-nos uma vista do um inidivíduo.” Translated: "Our Lady showed us a view of the one individual"

There are many mistakes in this construction. To say that someone shows a view of someone is a redundancy. That is why in our first redaction of the letter we translated the line as simply "Our Lady showed us the individual…"

Also there is an error in the use of the articles:
Further, “inidivíduo” [inidividual] is incorrectly spelled; it should be “indivíduo” [individual]. I absolutely do not believe that Sr. Lucy could have constructed that phrase or written “inidivíduo.” So, the falsifier introduced something in line 4 that was not in the original.

I took out that ill-sounding expression and replaced it with part of the phrase that used the word Church three times.

So, lines 4-5 became: “Nossa Senhora mostrou-nos uma Ygreja, mas esta era a Ygreja do inferno” [Our Lady showed us a Church, but this was the Church of hell],


(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_6ls4-5.jpg)line 4- Our Lady showed us a Church, but this was the
line 5 - Church of Hell, and an individual who I describe as the 'holy
It makes much more sense, since some paragraphs later [line 15] Our Lady tells the children: “You saw the apostasy in the Church,” but the Church as an institution had not been mentioned.

Thus, the whole paragraph two became more consistent. It now reads: “Our Lady showed us a Church, but this was a Church of hell, and an individual who I describe as the ‘holy Father’ leading a multitude that praised the devil, but there was a difference from a true holy Father, the gaze, this one had the eyes of evil.”


(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_7ls4-8.jpg)
line 4-Our Lady showed us a Church, but this was the Church of hell,
line 5 - and an individual who I describe as the ‘holy
Line 6 - Father’ leading a multitude that praised the devil,
line 7 - but there was a difference from a true holy Father, the gaze,
Line 8 - this one had the eyes of evil

Therefore, to avoid mentioning that the children had seen the Church as an infernal institution with a Pope at its head who was making public praise of the devil, the falsifier made deletions and replacements.

After these changes to paragraph two, the result was that paragraph three read better, becoming much less busy and allowing me to insert the same indentation used in the other paragraphs, giving more harmony and consistency to the presentation of the letter.

These are the essential rearrangements I made. The others did not change the substance of the message; they do, however, present a better order.

Inconsistency of topics in paragraph four

At this point in my analysis, I had come to the conclusion that the entire message had been scrambled. So, I looked for other places were the falsifier had left traces of his action.

Another bad impression came from the change of topics in paragraph four. Lines 14 - 16 of the falsified version reads:


(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_8ls14-16.jpg)
line 14 - Next, we raised our eyes to Our Lady who said to us,
line 15 - You saw the apostasy of the Church, this letter can be opened by the Holy
Line 16 - Father, but it must be announced after Pius XII and before 1960.


It seems to me that the part that starts with “this letter can be…” was taken from another place and inserted in line 15 to deviate the attention of a possible reader. Actually, the recommendation about when to open the letter should be closer to the end, after Our Lady had drawn the consequences of her affirmation: “You saw the apostasy in the Church.”

So, I kept this important declaration of the apostasy in the Church in one entire paragraph to highlight it and placed paragraphs six and seven, which describe the punishments for the apostasy, closer to it.

After this, I inserted paragraph five, about the cornerstone of Peter’s tomb, which is another consequence of the apostasy.

Then, I made a new paragraph with those words of Our Lady’s order to open the secret. It seemed to me that they belong there. Since in this new paragraph the first letter of the word “esta” [this] was in lower case, I copied the upper case “E” of the first word of paragraph three “Então” [then] and pasted it over the “e” of the “esta.

I left the two last paragraphs without any change. They seemed well placed to me.  

The final deciphered version thus reads, line by line:

Now I am going to reveal the third fragment of the secret;
 This part is the apostasy in the Church!

 Our Lady showed us a Church, but this was a
 Church of hell, and an individual who I describe as the 'holy
 Father' leading a multitude that was praising the devil,
 but there was a difference from a true holy Father, the gaze,
 this one had the gaze of evil.

 Then we saw the same Pope entering a Church,
 after some moments, but there is no way to describe the
 ugliness of that place, it looked like a gray cement fortress
 with broken angles and windows similar to eyes;
 it had a beak in the roof of the building.

 Next, we raised our eyes to Our Lady who
 said to us: You saw the apostasy in the Church.

 Because the dogma of the faith is not conserved in Rome, its authority
 will be removed and delivered to Fatima. The cathedra [or chair] of Rome will be
 destroyed and a new one built in Fatima.

 In the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone of Peter's tomb
 will be removed and transferred to Fatima.

 This letter can be opened by the holy Father, but it must be
 announced after Pius XII and before 1960.

 If 69 weeks after this order is announced, Rome continues its
 abomination, the city will be destroyed.

 Our Lady told us that this is written, [in] Daniel 9:24-25 and Matthew 21:42-44.
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(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_Secret_3.jpg)The corrected text

Unity in the adulterations

As I reach the end of my analysis, I see that the falsifier had three principal goals in sight:
Final considerations


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No one remains unpunished
after trying to ridicule of Our Lady

Another change I made was in line 1. I changed the date from 1/4/944 – April 1, 1944 – to 4/1/944 – January 4, 1944 – because in Portugal and Brazil the order of dates in letters is day/month/year.

Why did the falsifier give the date of April 1 to his scrambled message? Most probably to discredit it as much as possible and make people believe that the whole history of Fatima is just a “story of children,” as Benedict XVI called it.

In order to vindicate Our Lady, her message and Sr. Lucy, I am posting this analysis on the same date of April Fools' Day to make fools of those who want to ridicule Our Lady.

God also knows how to use irony.

Do I imagine that this is the complete deciphering of the message of Fatima and what I presented here is the true Third Secret?

I just exposed what I believe to be wrong. The result is a text that makes much more sense than the docuмent we already had. If this is the real secret that Sr. Lucy wrote, I would be greatly honored to have brought it to light. If it is not, this analysis is meant to foment the debate in order to induce the real docuмent to come to light.



(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_Secret_2.jpg)(https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_Secret_3.jpg)The scrambled text at left [larger here (https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_Secret_2lg.jpg)], the deciphered text at right [larger here (https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/G033_Secret_3lg.jpg)]




Posted April 1, 2017
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: xavierpope on August 21, 2021, 12:52:38 PM
What does 69 week mean ? What period of time is that?
Is it the seven year tribulation
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Incredulous on August 21, 2021, 08:10:18 PM


Yeah sorry, don’t know what that is referring to?
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Angelus on September 11, 2021, 11:26:16 PM
What does 69 week mean ? What period of time is that?
Is it the seven year tribulation

The reference is to Daniel 9, the 70 "weeks" prophecy. But the translation of the Hebrew word shavuim is not perfectly clear. That Hebrew word is only found in the Book of Daniel. Shavuim is something like a plural of shavua, which literally means "seven." So when Biblical writers talked about a "week," they would use the word "seven." So shavuim has connotations of "sevens" and "weeks."

Like I said, the word Daniel uses is only used by him. That is known as a neologism, an invented word. It was invented by Daniel to mean something special. So if it means something special, it should not be translated as something ordinary like "weeks" or "sevens" as we typically understand those words. 

So what does shavuim mean then? I believe that it refers to the "Feast of Weeks," called Shavuot (which we know as Pentecost). But Daniel made Shavuot (a single Pentecost) plural and called this group of 70 Pentecosts, 70 Shavuim. Anyway, there is only one Shavuot per year. So 70 Shavuim means 70 years.

Overlaying the riddle in Daniel 9 with the historical events since 1959, we find that John XXIII called the Vatican II Council in January 1959. It was completed in 7 years in December 1965. Then 62 years added to that first 7 years will be 69 years, which is the year 2027. The 70th Shavuim will be completed at Pentecost 2028. Read Daniel 9 to understand what is going to happen in the next few years. Our Lady is telling us to connect the Fatima prophecies to Daniel 9.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 11, 2021, 11:35:01 PM
For me the most chilling part of the prophesy is that the survivors will envy the dead.
I was thinking about that today.  It is also in the Bible 
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: alaric on September 12, 2021, 07:08:03 AM

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Japanese people are a touch too emotional for me.  Crazy people.
You have got to be kidding me. so much of their culture is rooted out of  discipline, honor, respect, hospitality, etc. Of course a lot of modern Japan is loosing ground on a lot of these virtues due to a continuous onslaught of globalism thanks to the zionist american govt that controls them. But they are still one of the most emotionally disciplined people in the world.


If there's another group of people on the face of the Earth in more control of their emotions than the Japanese, please let me know.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: alaric on September 12, 2021, 07:12:06 AM

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For me the most chilling part of the prophesy is that the survivors will envy the dead.
You might be able to apply that to all those "vaccinated" in the coming years after the demonic world system eliminates all  the "anti-vaxxers".


Personally, I don't want to be around for the hell that waits these people.
Title: Re: Akita prophesy
Post by: alaric on September 12, 2021, 07:20:44 AM
Hi, I'm a great believer in the Akita prophesy.

Do you think this will be during the vaccine rollout?
Perhaps to stop it from happening to children?
I was thinking about what you posted.

A global cataclysmic event to put a stop to this madness and at least save innocent children.

But then again, we've allowed the murder of over a billion innocent children in the past century, right in their mother's womb nonetheless.

I really don't know if fire from the sky will have anything to do with saving children.

It will be like the prophecy stated, wrath from God's anger that he's had enough of man's unrepentant ways and morally corrupt lifestyles. So that fire can come at anytime.