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Offline Incredulous

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Re: Akita prophesy
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2021, 07:26:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: songbird on August 05, 2021, 07:01:57 PM
    Cardinal Manning and Pope Leo XIII discussed the possibility that a nominated pope can change his tune in his pontificate.  Well, sure.  So, is it possible that Pope Pius XII showed his change of tune, in his pontificate when Heaven asked for a consecration and then he did in half-measure? Now is he an acting pope, serving God?

    I see Pius XI's papacy as the key juncture for Church men to have taken action. 

    He had missed so many opportunities:  Abandoning the Cristeros, Banning Action Francaise, and Neglecting the Fatima Consecration.

    Fatima was officially approved by the Church (Bp. Leiria) on 10-13-1930.

    I don't have the source, but a trad friend told me he had read where on his deathbed, Pope Pius XI spoke to an unseen entity. 
    He was heard to say:  "It was not my intention".

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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #16 on: August 05, 2021, 10:25:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on August 05, 2021, 06:46:11 AM
    There are some sedes that seriously downplay Fatima, I suppose because it makes their position problematic (how can the pope consecrate Russia if there is no pope, and/or there are only 5 bishops left in the world)

    Having moved among SVs for decades, I can honestly say I have never met a single one who downplayed Fatima at all.  I mean the CMRI has had a massive Fatima conference annually for 50+ years!

    There is a long list of Popes/"Popes" -- V2/post-V2 and pre-V2 -- who clearly downplayed it, otherwise the Consecration would have been done.  Try that thought on for size...
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #17 on: August 06, 2021, 11:05:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on August 05, 2021, 10:25:12 PM
    Having moved among SVs for decades, I can honestly say I have never met a single one who downplayed Fatima at all.  I mean the CMRI has had a massive Fatima conference annually for 50+ years!

    There is a long list of Popes/"Popes" -- V2/post-V2 and pre-V2 -- who clearly downplayed it, otherwise the Consecration would have been done.  Try that thought on for size...

    Someone should map the sede groups and their beliefs.

    And categorize them as soft, moderate and hardcore.

    I would classify the Dimonds and Matatics as hardcore and there must be others?

    The Dimonds are notorious for their anti-Fatima thesis published around 2006, claiming the Consecration of Russia was already done.

    They used incredible sleight of hand in the storyline, leaving one to ask if the Dimonds are nothing more than a front for Jєω ghostwriters? 
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #18 on: August 06, 2021, 03:30:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on August 06, 2021, 11:05:35 AM
    Someone should map the sede groups and their beliefs.

    And categorize them as soft, moderate and hardcore.
    Also good topic for a poll:  Do you classify yourself as SV, and for those who said yes, are you soft, moderate, or hardcore?
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #19 on: August 16, 2021, 01:34:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on August 05, 2021, 06:46:11 AM
    Except that a Chastisement is coming, and there ARE such things as approved Marian apparitions.

    No, it's not a good policy to ignore Blessed Mother completely, just to make sure you "get" 100% of the fake apparitions caught in your ignore net.

    If she appears on Earth, it's for a good reason.

    There are some sedes that seriously downplay Fatima, I suppose because it makes their position problematic (how can the pope consecrate Russia if there is no pope, and/or there are only 5 bishops left in the world)

    You're not one of those, are you?
    A Japanese nun who goes to the new mass, sees a statue to a false vision in Amsterdam weeping "tears" and they all claim it is a miracle.
    Then a modernist Bishop approves it.
    Japanese people are a touch too emotional for me.  Crazy people.
    Approved by the Bishop.  So what?  John Paul and Paul VI are "saints" too.  But I think they are BOTH in Hell.
    I believe in Fatima.
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #20 on: August 16, 2021, 01:39:29 PM »
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    • And Bishop Williamson thought Garabandal was true.  It was certainly more credible than Akita.

    Yet Joey Lomangino is dead, Padre Pio is long dead and would be 133 and we are on Pope number 5.

    He does not talk about Garabandal any longer and has not since Lomangino's death.

    Conchita CLEARLY does not know the date of the miracle.  Or she is unreliable AND completely useless at basic arithmetic. 
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #21 on: August 16, 2021, 01:42:52 PM »
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    • I believe in Akita as it warned against communion on the hand ( if you read the full story )
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #22 on: August 17, 2021, 10:25:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: Tallinn Trad on August 16, 2021, 01:34:49 PM
    A Japanese nun who goes to the new mass, sees a statue to a false vision in Amsterdam weeping "tears" and they all claim it is a miracle.
    Then a modernist Bishop approves it.
    Japanese people are a touch too emotional for me.  Crazy people.
    Approved by the Bishop.  So what?  John Paul and Paul VI are "saints" too.  But I think they are BOTH in Hell.
    I believe in Fatima.
    You simplify it too much.  

    There are some key details to discern:

    1. Card Ratzinger stated the Japanese are 20 years behind Europe in adapting to changes in the liturgy.  

    2. 1973 was when Akita started and Sr. Sasegawa was a convert novice at the time of the first apparition.

    3. While the Japanese woodcarver who made the weeping statue was commissioned to model it after “Our Lady of All Nations” , the whole set of miracles had nothing to do with Amsterdam.

    I’m in agreement that the Jєωess who started The Amsterdam cult was a fraud.

    4. Our Lady of Akita’s messages were hard hitting.  No nicey Novus ordo talk there.  In fact, it was more severe than Fatima.

    BTW, There is a growing cult of sedes & trads that believe the Fatima consecration was done in 1952.

    Botched as it was, they think we’ve had the era of peace during the last 70 years and that we’re going into chastisement next.  We can forget about Russia converting and destroying the Jєωιѕн mafia.

    Those same people should study Akita.   Our Lady is very severe in foretelling that the fires will be worse than the Deluge... unless they convert.

    They can put that in their pipes and smoke it.  
      :facepalm:
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #23 on: August 20, 2021, 07:12:56 PM »
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    • Events foretold by Our Lady of Fatima already happened.

    The Fatima cultists cling on to this past and live their lives waiting for it to happen. Just look what happened in the 20th century. How can you not see it already happened? But you don't want to move on, do you?

    "Muh Fatima !!!" ... "Muh Consecrate Russia !!!"

    Time to move on and prepare. Something worse is coming.
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #24 on: August 20, 2021, 07:33:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: remy on August 20, 2021, 07:12:56 PM
    Events foretold by Our Lady of Fatima already happened.

    The Fatima cultists cling on to this past and live their lives waiting for it to happen. Just look what happened in the 20th century. How can you not see it already happened? But you don't want to move on, do you?
    I agree. I believe Pope Pius XII did do the Consecration, imperfectly, much like King Louis XVI did the consecration of France to the Sacred Heart in his cell during the Revolution. But, it was too late, and while it was done, the forecasted chastisements still occurred.

    Had it been done by Pius XI, we might live in a very, very different world today. And now I believe the temporal effects of this failure have manifested into what the "Church" is today and the world is transforming into.
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #25 on: August 20, 2021, 07:34:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: xavierpope on August 16, 2021, 01:42:52 PM
    I believe in Akita as it warned against communion on the hand ( if you read the full story )

    Forgot to warn against the heretical Novus Ordo sect.
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #26 on: August 20, 2021, 07:41:18 PM »
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    • Most of the Fatima industry (and Newchurch) will die when the Boomer generation finally dies off. It's mostly the Boomers keeping both industries afloat with their Sunday tithes and wills, and patronages to Fatima. Newchurch is a zombie. It's already dead but it's still able to walk like a drunken freak by the donations of Boomers. This is another metric that we are nearing the end times. The Whore of Babylon (Newchurch) doesn't have much longer to whore around. 
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #27 on: August 20, 2021, 11:26:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: remy on August 20, 2021, 07:12:56 PM
    Events foretold by Our Lady of Fatima already happened.

    The Fatima cultists cling on to this past and live their lives waiting for it to happen. Just look what happened in the 20th century. How can you not see it already happened? But you don't want to move on, do you?

    "Muh Fatima !!!" ... "Muh Consecrate Russia !!!"

    Time to move on and prepare. Something worse is coming.

    Yeah, timid Popes had it their way.  


    They told Our Lord and Our Lady of Fatima to take a hike.

    You might as well get Last Rites and take the vax... cause the devil outmaneuvered us.
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #28 on: August 20, 2021, 11:40:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: remy on August 20, 2021, 07:12:56 PM
    Events foretold by Our Lady of Fatima already happened.

    The Fatima cultists cling on to this past and live their lives waiting for it to happen. Just look what happened in the 20th century. How can you not see it already happened? But you don't want to move on, do you?

    "Muh Fatima !!!" ... "Muh Consecrate Russia !!!"

    Time to move on and prepare. Something worse is coming.

    > Muh 4chan!

    This isn't 4chan, buddy.

    Fatima is a crucial and approved apparition. The most important Marian apparition for OUR age.
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    Re: Akita prophesy
    « Reply #29 on: August 21, 2021, 08:21:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on August 20, 2021, 11:40:25 PM
    > Muh 4chan!

    This isn't 4chan, buddy.

    Fatima is a crucial and approved apparition. The most important Marian apparition for OUR age.

    And, no, the events at Fatima have not all happened yet ... unless you believe Wojtyla, Ratzinger, and the fake Sister Lucy, where the whole thing was just about the failed assassination attempt on Wojtyla.

    Now, much of it has already happened.  Clearly the Third Secret was about Vatican II.  But the final Triumph of the Immaculate Heart after a consecration meeting Our Lady's requirements ... that is yet to come, clearly.
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