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Offline Incredulous

Re: Akita prophesy
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2021, 07:26:19 PM »
Quote from: songbird on August 05, 2021, 07:01:57 PM
Cardinal Manning and Pope Leo XIII discussed the possibility that a nominated pope can change his tune in his pontificate.  Well, sure.  So, is it possible that Pope Pius XII showed his change of tune, in his pontificate when Heaven asked for a consecration and then he did in half-measure? Now is he an acting pope, serving God?

I see Pius XI's papacy as the key juncture for Church men to have taken action. 

He had missed so many opportunities:  Abandoning the Cristeros, Banning Action Francaise, and Neglecting the Fatima Consecration.

Fatima was officially approved by the Church (Bp. Leiria) on 10-13-1930.

I don't have the source, but a trad friend told me he had read where on his deathbed, Pope Pius XI spoke to an unseen entity. 
He was heard to say:  "It was not my intention".

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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Akita prophesy
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2021, 10:25:12 PM »
Quote from: Matthew on August 05, 2021, 06:46:11 AM
There are some sedes that seriously downplay Fatima, I suppose because it makes their position problematic (how can the pope consecrate Russia if there is no pope, and/or there are only 5 bishops left in the world)

Having moved among SVs for decades, I can honestly say I have never met a single one who downplayed Fatima at all.  I mean the CMRI has had a massive Fatima conference annually for 50+ years!

There is a long list of Popes/"Popes" -- V2/post-V2 and pre-V2 -- who clearly downplayed it, otherwise the Consecration would have been done.  Try that thought on for size...
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Akita prophesy
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2021, 11:05:35 AM »
Quote from: gladius_veritatis on August 05, 2021, 10:25:12 PM
Having moved among SVs for decades, I can honestly say I have never met a single one who downplayed Fatima at all.  I mean the CMRI has had a massive Fatima conference annually for 50+ years!

There is a long list of Popes/"Popes" -- V2/post-V2 and pre-V2 -- who clearly downplayed it, otherwise the Consecration would have been done.  Try that thought on for size...

Someone should map the sede groups and their beliefs.

And categorize them as soft, moderate and hardcore.

I would classify the Dimonds and Matatics as hardcore and there must be others?

The Dimonds are notorious for their anti-Fatima thesis published around 2006, claiming the Consecration of Russia was already done.

They used incredible sleight of hand in the storyline, leaving one to ask if the Dimonds are nothing more than a front for jew ghostwriters? 
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Offline MMagdala

Re: Akita prophesy
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2021, 03:30:33 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous on August 06, 2021, 11:05:35 AM
Someone should map the sede groups and their beliefs.

And categorize them as soft, moderate and hardcore.
Also good topic for a poll:  Do you classify yourself as SV, and for those who said yes, are you soft, moderate, or hardcore?
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Offline Tallinn Trad

Re: Akita prophesy
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2021, 01:34:49 PM »
Quote from: Matthew on August 05, 2021, 06:46:11 AM
Except that a Chastisement is coming, and there ARE such things as approved Marian apparitions.

No, it's not a good policy to ignore Blessed Mother completely, just to make sure you "get" 100% of the fake apparitions caught in your ignore net.

If she appears on Earth, it's for a good reason.

There are some sedes that seriously downplay Fatima, I suppose because it makes their position problematic (how can the pope consecrate Russia if there is no pope, and/or there are only 5 bishops left in the world)

You're not one of those, are you?
A Japanese nun who goes to the new mass, sees a statue to a false vision in Amsterdam weeping "tears" and they all claim it is a miracle.
Then a modernist Bishop approves it.
Japanese people are a touch too emotional for me.  Crazy people.
Approved by the Bishop.  So what?  John Paul and Paul VI are "saints" too.  But I think they are BOTH in Hell.
I believe in Fatima.
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