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Added text of the Third Secret
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2015, 02:21:20 AM »
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    This blog post goes to great lengths to attempt linking cuмbre Vieja volcano FALLING into the sea with the prophesy of a mountain BEING THROWN into the sea.

    While I can't slight the author's attempt at understanding what Scripture might be saying insofar as our scientific sensibilities might be capable of comprehending, still, the curious thing about the fulfillment of prophesy has always been that nobody could have imagined the reality until it takes place, and then suddenly the prophesy is recognized for what it really was all along.

    Therefore, while cuмbre Vieja FALLING into the sea might well be some aspect of this fulfillment, I wouldn't at all be surprised if something more astounding were to happen such that a mountain BEING THROWN into the sea makes a lot more sense...............

    Source = http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2014/08/a-new-text-related-to-third-secret-of.html
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    It should also be worth revisiting some of my older material concerning the mega-tsunami threat to the East Coast of the Americas below:

         Amongst the various other startling images depicted in the Book of Revelation, the curious scene of a "great mountain, burning with fire" being thrown into the sea appears to be granted a certain significance.  The Apocalypse uses recapitulation as a literary device to highlight areas of especial importance.  The battle of Armageddon, for example, is referred to in several different places.  The bizarre scene of a mountain being cast into the sea in Rev 8:8 is recapitulated again by the angel throwing a great millstone into the sea in Rev 18:21, connecting this event with the fall of "Babylon" - the ruling world-power in the eschatological age.
     

    The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood. (Rev 8:8)


    But what could this scene represent? Various preterist scholars, such as D.E Aune, and more recently Elaine Pagels in her popular 2012 book Revelations, argue that this passage contains a description of the eruption of Vesuvius, which destroyed Pompeii in 79AD. But as leading Revelation academic G.K Beale points out, this particular volcanic eruption can not be the sole point of reference, as the verse in question is clearly based on chapter 51 of the Book of Jeremiah, which describes the casting down of “a burning mountain” and the destruction of Babylon in the sea:

    “Behold, I am against you, O destroying mountain, declares the LORD, which destroys the whole earth; I will stretch out my hand against you, and roll you down from the crags, and make you a burnt mountain. No stone shall be taken from you for a corner and no stone for a foundation, but you shall be a perpetual waste, declares the LORD. “Set up a standard on the earth; blow the trumpet among the nations; prepare the nations for war against her...  (Jer 51:25-27)


    How Babylon is taken, the praise of the whole earth seized! How Babylon has become a horror among the nations! The sea has come up on Babylon; she is covered with its tumultuous waves.  (Jer 51:41-42)


        Chapter 51 of the Book of Jeremiah then concludes with a passage which is alluded to again later in the Book of Revelation:

    And Jeremiah said to Seraiah: When you come to Babylon, see that you read all these words, and say, ‘O LORD, you have said concerning this place that you will cut it off, so that nothing shall dwell in it, neither man nor beast, and it shall be desolate forever.’ When you finish reading this book, tie a stone to it and cast it into the midst of the Euphrates, and say, Thus shall Babylon sink, to rise no more, because of the disaster that I am bringing upon her, and they shall become exhausted.  (Jer 51:61-64)

    Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, So will Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and will be found no more... (Rev 18:21)



        The majority of scholars thus recognise that the burning mountain being cast into the sea in the Apocalypse is the exact same event which is symbolised by the angel casting a millstone into the sea to signify how  the eschatological world power "Babylon" is to be destroyed.  As Beale states: "the burning mountain cast into the sea refers to the judgment of a wicked kingdom. This kingdom is to be identified as 'Babylon', 'the great city' of Revelation 11-18, which holds sway over the evil world system. (Beale, G.K. The Book of Revelation p476).

         So the "great mountain, burning with fire" is widely recognised by Revelation scholars as a description of a volcanic eruption.

         But how could a volcano be thrown into the sea?  And how would this bring about the fall of the ruling world empire at the end-time?  I'll post a short extract from my book below:

    On the 12th of October 2000, the BBC's flagship docuмentary series Horizon aired a programme that was to cause a considerable amount of controversy in the world of geophysics.

    Subtitled "Mega-tsunami: Wave of Destruction", the docuмentary elaborated how the volcano cuмbre Vieja on the Canary island of La Palma poses an enormous risk to the eastern coastline of the Americas. The docuмentary was based on the combined research of S.N. Ward of the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at the University of California and S.J. Day of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre at University College, London, who hoped to prove that cuмbre Vieja has the potential to cause one of the greatest natural disasters ever known to human civilisation. Ward and Day's research shows how the inside of cuмbre Vieja is honeycombed with fissures caused by the rising of molten magma heating and vaporizing water which then erodes the inside of the volcano. This phenomenon has severely weakened the internal structure of the volcano, making it extremely unstable. During its last eruption in 1949, the southern volcano caused a massive crack to appear, and the entire western portion of cuмbre Vieja slipped a few metres towards the Atlantic Ocean.

    In 2001, Ward and Day put forward a scientific paper showing how that the entire western flank will eventually give way, possibly even during its next eruption; sending 500 thousand million tonnes of rock crashing into the ocean.  Ward and Day's research, which took other examples of this phenomenon into account, suggested that the impact of this "lateral collapse" would generate a colossal wave – dubbed a "mega-tsunami", which could reach a local amplitude of between 650-1500 metres.  This wave would then rapidly travel westwards reaching a speed of approximately 720kph. Although it would diminish in size by the time it made landfall on the eastern seaboard of America, it could still be as high as 50 metres (to give a sense of perspective, the statue of liberty is 93 metres tall), devastating everything in its wake up to 25km inland.

    In comparison with this projected scenario, the Indian Ocean tsunami that occurred on 26th December 2004, reached a height of only 24m at Bandeh Aceh – the region worst affected by the disaster, which was totally obliterated. If this event unfolds in the manner that Ward and Day have projected, then this "mega-tsunami" would be the greatest natural disaster in recorded history.  (Unveiling the Apocalypse pp148-149)

    You can read Ward and Day's full article here.

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    The following quip from one comment is well worth thinking about:

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        Here's some additional food for thought. The language in Rev 18:21 regarding a mill stone being cast into the sea is very interesting. When Jesus spoke of a mill stone, He referred to the scandalization of children.

       
    Quote from: Luke 17:1-2

    He said to his disciples, Things that cause sin will inevitably occur, but woe to the person through whom they occur. It would be better for him if a millstone were put around his neck and he be thrown into the sea than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.


        I wonder if Jesus is drawing a direct connection between the prophesied destruction of Babylon both in Jeremiah and in Revelation to the cause of scandal in children.
        19 August 2014 at 08:22



    If there is anything that marks our age with a broad brush, it's how children are scandalized from an early age, and this black mark of their consequential loss of innocence from an early age is definitive for our time.

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    Added text of the Third Secret
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    Towards 16:00 hours on January 3rd, 1944, in the convent’s chapel, before the Tabernacle, Lucia asked Jesus to let her know His will: ‘I then feel that a friendly hand, affectionate and maternal, touches my shoulder.’

    It is ‘the Mother of Heaven’ who says to her: ‘be at peace and write what they command you to, but not that which you were given to understand about its meaning,’ intending to allude to the meaning of the vision that the Virgin herself had revealed to her.

    Right after – says Sr. Lucia – ‘I felt my spirit flooded by a light-filled mystery which is God and in Him I saw and heard: the point of the flame-like lance which detaches, touches the axis of the earth and it [the earth] shakes: mountains, cities, towns and villages with their inhabitants are buried. The sea, rivers and clouds leave their bounds, they overflow, flood and drag with them into a whirlpool, houses and people in a number unable to be counted; it is the purification of the world from the sin it is immersed in. Hatred, ambition, cause detructive wars. Afterward I felt in the increased beating of my heart and in my spirit a quiet voice which said: ‘in time, one faith, one baptism, one Church, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic. Heaven in eternity!’ This word, ‘Heaven,’ filled my heart with peace and happiness, so much so that, almost without realizing it, I continued to repeat for some time: Heaven, Heaven!’

    That is how she was given the strength to write the Third Secret.
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