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'Old Whine in New Battles'
« on: August 15, 2007, 10:41:12 PM »
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  • Old Whine in New Battles
    by Edgar J. Steele

    July 24, 2006

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    "Its (the Mearsheimer-Walt paper on anti-Semitism) basic point -- that Israel's American supporters have immense influence over U.S. foreign policy -- is inarguable.  After all, President Bush has just recently given Israel NATO-like status without so much as a murmur from Congress.  "I made it clear, I'll make it clear again, that we will use military might to protect our ally Israel," Bush said.  This was the second or third time he's made this pledge, crossing a line that previous administrations would not -- in effect, promulgating a treaty seemingly on the spot. No other country gets this sort of treatment."
      --- Richard Cohen, American Jєωιѕн reporter, "No, It's Not Anti-Semitic" (Washington Post, 4/25/06, pg. A23)

    Do you see now?
     
    Why...what I've been telling you all along, that's what:  Iraq and Afghanistan have been about Israel.  

    See for yourself.  Go here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and here ... and ... well, you get the idea. [links did not copy, sorry - g_v]

    And that list is up through just the middle of 2003.  I've had three more years in which I've gotten even more worked up, even to the point of writing a book about the real problem - check through my archives and see for yourself.

    Iraq and Afghanistan have been about Israel.  Not oil.  Not Weapons of Mass Destruction.  Not Saddam Hussein.  Not Osama bin Laden.  Not Al Qaeda.  Not 9/11.  Israel.  Always Israel.  Just Israel.

    Others have been telling you, as well, in ever-increasing numbers.  But, then, you knew that, didn't you?
     
     Are you now willing to listen?  If not, how many more innocent lives must be sacrificed on the altar of Zionism before you wake up?  How many more innocent children must be murdered?  How many more of your sons and daughters must die?  How much more blood must be on your head before you say:  "Enough?"  How much?
     
    To see a very disturbing but brutally honest PowerPoint slideshow of just a handful of the horrors being inflicted upon defenseless Palestine and its civilian residents by Israel right now, click here.

    Both Lebanon and Palestine erupt at the same time and on the same pretext:  Israeli soldier abductions.  What a coincidence!  In both cases, innocent civilians are being targeted instead of the military objectives claimed by Israel.  Schools...hospitals...families in vans...churches.

    The Christian Connection  

    Churches?  That's right.  Christian churches.  You see, so far, Israel has been shelling and strafing mainly the Christian areas of southern Lebanon.  Not the Muslim areas.  Not yet.  The Christian areas.

    Why did the Jєω cross the road?  He didn't.  Jєωs hate crosses.

    You didn't know that?  You didn't know that Israeli Jєωs are honor bound to spit upon or in the direction of every cross they might see?  You didn't know that Christianity is all but outlawed in Israel?  You didn't know that almost all Jєωs snicker behind your back about American usage of the phrase ʝʊdɛօ-Christian?  You honestly didn't know?  Once again, you haven't been listening, have you?  

    You do recall the Jєωιѕн effort to suppress one of the biggest-grossing movies of all time, The Passion of the Christ?  An anti-Semitic porn snuff film is what the ADL's Abe Foxman called it, as I remember, as he tried to get it banned throughout America.  

    Yes, the same ADL that, together with AIPAC, lavishly funds opponents of American congressional candidates who don't sing Israel's tune, with the result that last week's U.S. House of Representatives vote to support Israel's current carnage in Lebanon was a staggering 410 to 8.  That ADL.  Guess which 8 House members' opponents get a blank check in the upcoming mid-term election?

    A great many American Christians actually support and applaud Israel's campaign of genocide, if you can believe it.  Fundamentalist dispensationalists, they are called.  Biblical prophecy is being fulfilled, they believe.  They believed the same thing the last time Israel reduced Lebanon to rubble, some 25 years ago.  And they believed the same thing when Israel took over Jerusalem completely from the Palestinians, with whom it pledged to share Palestine when Israel was given Palestinian land by the UN - the same Palestinians they now are exterminating in Gaza, the West Bank and those foolish enough to have remained in Israel for the few crumbs allowed them for doing the crap jobs that Israelis refuse to do.  And, of course, when Israel was formed, nearly 60 years ago, American Christian fundamentalists were rapturous.  
    Well, not that kind of rapture.  The Rapture is what American fundamentalist dispensationalists believe will whisk them directly into heaven, just as the anti-Christ rises up to turn the world into a living Hell.  These same fundamentalists believe the Bible is the literal word of God and is complete unto itself.  Of course, it never crosses the unfurrowed brows of lunatics like TV preacher John Hagee that the Rapture isn't even hinted at in the Bible, let alone directly mentioned.  That embellishment was added by cινιℓ ωαr veteran Cyrus Scofield in an extensive set of notes added to a version of the Bible commissioned by Jєωιѕн-owned Oxford Press that soon was pressed into so many palms that it has become the standard for modern fundamentalists.  A standard written specifically to convert Christians into Zionists.
     
    Onward, Christian Terrorists

    But, then, killing Arabs to hasten the Second Coming isn't mentioned in the Bible, either, yet fundamentalists wildly support that, as well, even to the extent of offering up their own sons and daughters to die in Middle Eastern hellholes to advance Israeli interests.  "To stand against Israel is to stand against God," is the way that another TV preacher, Jerry Falwell, put it in his book, The Fundamentalist Phenomenon.  Onward, Christian terrorists.

    I do recall something that is mentioned in the Bible, though:  Thou Shalt Not Kill.  What part of "Thou Shalt Not Kill" do you suppose it is that Hagee, Falwell, other fundamentalist preachers and their many followers not seem to understand?
     
    On the left, Israeli schoolchildren write clever sayings like "Love, Israel" on shells destined for Lebanese civilians (note the schoolteacher in the background).  On the right, Lebanese children after  receiving one of those shells.
    The current Middle-Eastern genocide against Arabs has American fundamentalists as giddy as Jєωιѕн schoolgirls who write to Israeli reservists now on duty, imploring, "Dear soldier, please kill a lot of Arabs."

    Christian Arabs, don't forget.  Somebody should go back and redo all those old "Spy-vs-Spy" cartoons.  Amazing.  Not in a million years would it occur to me to make up something like this.  Jєωs actually have Christians rooting for the death of other Christians.  Of course, they had us doing that in Bosnia-Herzogovina not so long ago, too, didn't they?  What's that?  You didn't notice the irony of Christians killing Christians then?  Will you notice it now?

    Call it "Pre-emptive Self Defense"

    Oh, so you believe that Israel simply is defending itself with its current war against rock-throwing children in Palestine?  
     Do you still think that America simply is defending herself against Iraq, too?  Not even George Bush buys that anymore, though he has yet to give up his Administration's doctrine of Pre-emptive Self Defense.  Bush's latest excuse:  We have to keep killing Iraqis because we have invested so much in our current war in that country.  In other words, now my son has to die there, simply because your son already died there.  
    Am I the only one who fails to see the logic in Bush's current revelation?  If you want my son to die just because you lost yours, why don't you simply cut to the chase?  Come to my home and kill him yourself.  Be warned, however:  I have a cannon and a backhoe and I know how to use them.  Why kill a bunch more innocent Iraqis to prove a nonexistent point?  Never mind that my son is innocent, as well.

    Of course, you have heard the justification for America expanding its aggression to Syria and, especially, Iran.  Quick now...exactly what is that justification?  Did you manage to come up with anything other than, "They hate our freedom?"  What freedom, by the way?

    Blame Israel

    Face it.  You know it's true.  America is in the Middle East because of Israel.  You know now that the oil was just a cynical excuse.  After all, we could have bought the oil outright for a whole lot less than we're spending on this obscene war.  

    You now know that Al Qaeda never had anything to do with Iraq and that, in fact, Saddam Hussein was Al Qaeda's enemy.  You now know that there never were any "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in Iraq.  You now know that this war was planned by the Neocons (a euphemism, mainly, for American Jєωs) long before 9/11 and, if you are even vaguely awake, you know now that 9/11 was not carried out by Arabs with box cutters - and certainly not Iraqi Arabs (the fall guys almost all were Saudi Arabian, by the way).

    Blame Israel.  As always.  Come on, say it right out loud.  It will make you feel better and you know it:  Blame Israel.
     
    Old Whine in New Battles

    Oy vey!  Foist Egypt, den Goimany.  Vhy, oh vhy, are dey alvays peeking on us?  Now dose nasty little Arab kids are t'rowing rocks.  Make dem stop, America.  Make dem stop peeking on us.  Bomb Afghanistan.  Bomb Iraq.  Bomb Syria.  Bomb Iran.  Kill 'em, kill 'em all!  

    We've heard it all before.  Old whine in new battles, that's all it is.

    Now comes the setup:  Israel's military leaders today say that they believed their air superiority would be enough to subdue Lebanon, but now they admit they were wrong.  It's going to take ground troops.  Lots of them.  Sound familiar?  It should.  It is pretty much the same thing that the Neocons said about Iraq when America's current effort there first bogged down.  And Syria is next, of course ... then Iran.  The die is cast.

    Here's the problem:  Israel simply doesn't have the manpower to pull off a house-to-house, even in Lebanon.  What's more, Israel cannot afford to lose any of the forces that it does have available, else shortly Israel would find itself overrun by the vastly numerically-superior Arabs - really pissed-off Arabs, too -  who live all around them.  That's why you hear so many Jєωιѕн Americans, particularly the media bosses (you know, the ones who own every single last little scrap of media in America today and use it to reprogram all of us) and their lickspittle lackeys calling for American intervention, first in Syria, then in Iran.  The House voted 410 to 8, don't forget - 410 to 8!  Oy vey!  Make dem stop peeking on us.  Old whine in new battles.

    Of course, Israel is used to getting America to fight its fights.  Actually, I should say the world's Jєωs are used to it, because we've been fighting them ever since World War I, the first time we intervened on behalf of Jєωs where none of our interests were at stake.

    Now Israel has picked yet another fight that it cannot win by itself, just as Jєωs did when they declared economic war on Germany several years before the actual outbreak of WWII hostilities.  Of course, they never let us forget about World War II, which we also won for them, yet insist that, somehow, we owe them, rather than it being the other way around, as logic might dictate.  Never forget de h0Ɩ0cαųst.  You never prevented it.  Oy vey!  Save us now.  Save us.  Make dem stop peeking on us.  Bomb Afghanistan.  Bomb Iraq.  Bomb Syria.  Bomb Iran.  Und don't forget to pay for all uff eet.  Pay us, too, just like alvays.  Like I said:  Old whine in ne w battles.

    And we will do it for them yet again, of course (410 to 8!!!).
     
    Yes, That is a Draft You Feel

    Conveniently, America has a lot of fighting-age youngsters available.  First, of course, are the increasingly unemployed (and unemployable, thanks to the breakdown of America's education system) young American citizens - your kids and mine.  Second, all those illegal aliens ("Guest Workers," as Bush calls them), who are welcomed with open arms by all three American branches of government - Administration, Legislative and Judicial - despite the clearly-expressed wishes of almost all Americans.

     Already, aliens are doing the jobs of Americans sent overseas to die for Israeli hegemony, while a great many more of those jobs are about to come open, as their current occupants go off to war.   Undoubtedly, a great many illegals will go, as well, lured by the promise of instant citizenship.  Come on, you didn't really think all this illegal immigration was about picking fruit, did you?  Give me a better reason.  I dare you.  

    If you go away from this column with just one thought, let it be this one:  All modern immigration since passage of the 1965 Immigration Act likely has been designed from the beginning to provide American cannon fodder for World War III.  As I said:  Give me a better reason.

    Remember that 1963 marked the beginning of the slow, rolling coup that has been taking place in America and only recently come to a full boil, with Americans no longer in charge of any of America's destiny, foreign or domestic.
    Here's another perfectly-valid reason for all the illegal immigration that is being allowed, but you probably haven't believed it when I have told you about it, either:  massive illegal alien immigration dilutes the native European-American population base, thereby making us much easier to control.
    Also convenient:  America's draft now is ready to go, with the Selective Service System reactivated, local draft boards repopulated, forms and procedures all updated and, finally, all youngsters forcibly being registered for the draft by high schools and DMV offices.

    Just prior to America's entry into WWII, one of the Chosen, Julius Adler, agitated for and helped draft legislation which conveniently was just in time to respond to Pearl Harbor a few weeks later.  That resulted in the draft of thousands upon thousands of America's best and brightest young men (and over a million American casualties, 405,000 of which were deaths).

    In light of Israel's impending need, having just picked a fight with the entire Arab world, if not the entire world altogether, what a coincidence it is that the only thing now necessary to force America's sons and daughters into uniform is an Executive Order!  

    Of course, Bush has proven that he no longer need consult with Congress about making war.  It would be pointless to ask Congress anyway, since virtually every member has been bought and paid for by Israel's minions (your tax dollars at work, but that is a story for another day).  Some things never change anymore.  Old whine in new battles.

    A Proposed Solution

    waynemadsenreport.com has "reported that the Israeli military is using poison gas on villages in south Lebanon.  According to a former U.S. weapons expert who served in Iraq, the artillery shell in a photo taken in Lebanon (left) is a chemical weapon delivery device. It is being handled by an Israeli Defense Force soldier and Hebrew lettering can be clearly seen on the armored vehicle. Another chemical weapons shell of the same type can be seen lying on the ground to the right. It is not known what type of chemical is in the chemical canister, however, gas dropped by the Israelis in villages in southern Lebanon has resulted in severe vomiting among the civilian population."

    Never one simply to complain without offering a better way, I have a modest proposal for fixing things.  Not fixed right, but a good start, at any rate:

    1. Either take away all of Israel's Weapons of Mass Destruction, including its 400 nuclear warheads, or allow Arabs to acquire an equivalently deadly deterrent.  To be perfectly fair, since America armed Israel for free, America should be forced now to provide equivalent arms to the Arabs, also for free.

    2. Give Israel a choice:  Withdraw immediately to the lines originally drawn for it by the UN after WWII and stay there or move to a new Israel, located elsewhere (there are lots of places possible for this, most of them much nicer than the Middle East).  The cost of this is to be borne by Israel and the world's Jєωιѕн community.  In either case, Israel must pay substantial reparations to Palestine and Lebanon for the death and destruction caused to their nations.

    3. Withdraw American forces from the Middle East immediately, in total and forever.  America to pay reparations to both Afghanistan and Iraq for the death and destruction caused to their nations.

     4. Declare all American Zionists, both Jєωιѕн and Christian, to be traitors, strip them of American citizenship and exile them to Israel.  Since they love Israel so much as to subvert America to Israeli interests and desires, they should be required to live in Israel.  This simultaneously will solve America's massive media disinformation problem, too.

    We Can Dream, Can't We?

    None of the foregoing stands a prayer of taking place, of course, but the alternative truly is horrible:  World War III.  Maybe not right away.  Maybe not even in connection with the current Middle Eastern crisis, but soon.  You know it.  I know it.  Why pretend otherwise?  We've seen it all before, time and again.  We know how this must play out.  All that is going on today is old whine in new battles.

    Again, soon will come the scenario laid out in the latter half of my book, Defensive Racism.  Also again:  This would be a good time to leave the cities, boys and girls.
     
    My name is Edgar J. Steele.  Thanks for listening.  Please visit my web site, http://www.ConspiracyPenPal.com, for other messages just like this one.

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    « Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 02:28:11 AM »
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  • The posting of the anti-Jєωιѕн filth above is a disgrace.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 08:01:05 AM »
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  • Kvetch all you like, friend.  Steele's analysis of the situation is far more useful than your own.
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    « Reply #3 on: August 16, 2007, 01:10:13 PM »
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    Kvetch all you like, friend.  Steele's analysis of the situation is far more useful than your own.


    Useful? I note that you didn't say truthful.

    "Useful" to nαzι-advocate Jєω-haters, yes. Naturally.

    He uses vulgar language. You should have known better than to post that here. This is a clean house.

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    « Reply #4 on: August 16, 2007, 01:41:08 PM »
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    This is a clean house.


    If it offensive to the owner, he may let me know whenever and however he wishes - and I shall edit as he asks.  As for your opinion, nihil est.
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    « Reply #5 on: August 16, 2007, 01:57:59 PM »
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  • You argue like a sleazy Liberal shyster, not a Christian gentleman. Perfect example of the hypocrisy of so much of this medievalist confabulating about the glorious standards of Christendom and chivalry and Scholasticism, all laid to ruin by the Freemasons and the Jєωs.

    You should see that one of the attractions of this forum is its cleanliness.

    You should respect any member's concern that it stay clean.

    You should have the humility to admit to yourself that you were wrong to post anything which includes a vulgar way to say "annoyed" and cut out the self-righteous casuistry.

    You should join a new school of moral theology that offers something more Godly than tips on how to do wrong with confidence that you will be able to bluff your way past rebukes. In Latin, no less.

    I am sure that Thomas Aquinas would agree. And so would Maimonides. What's YOUR problem?

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    « Reply #6 on: August 16, 2007, 03:40:46 PM »
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  • Cletus, my friend, you are wrong about this one.  The truth may be ugly, even painful, but it is never unclean.  The day that Cathinfo suppresses the truth will be the day it becomes unclean, engaged in the devil's work.  There is such a huge volume of works to back this article up you have to see the fire and not just the smoke.  Furthermore, the best and most informative writings on this subject (the perfidy of the high priests of Judaism) were written by the common Jєωs themselves.  There are many members on this forum in possession of information which back this article up.  
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    « Reply #7 on: August 16, 2007, 04:13:54 PM »
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    You argue like a sleazy Liberal shyster, not a Christian gentleman.


    Coming from a Judaizing shyster, I shall take this as a compliment.

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    Perfect example of the hypocrisy of so much of this medievalist confabulating about the glorious standards of Christendom and chivalry and Scholasticism, all laid to ruin by the Freemasons and the Jєωs.


    Which is ad rem how?

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    You should respect any member's concern that it stay clean.


    What you call "cleanliness" and what I know it to be are clearly two different things.  Do you by chance believe in ritual handwashing?

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    You should have the humility to admit to yourself that you were wrong to post anything which includes a vulgar way to say "annoyed" and cut out the self-righteous casuistry.


    Is that all?  He wrote "pissed off", and you want to make a big deal out of it?  Cletus, to such nonsense I respond with the exact words I have put in quotes - minus the '-ed'.  You really are getting absurd.

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    You should join a new school of moral theology that offers something more Godly than tips on how to do wrong with confidence that you will be able to bluff your way past rebukes. In Latin, no less.


    From such a swell guy as yourself, it is not a rebuke.

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    I am sure that Thomas Aquinas would agree. And so would Maimonides. What's YOUR problem?


    At present, you are one problem, albeit small.  

    Now, do you have anything to say about the topic of the thread?  Comments that actually address what Mr. Steele has written?  If so, offer them.  If not, bugger off.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 16, 2007, 11:27:20 PM »
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  • Everyone knows that the term the poster above used is considered an unacceptable vulgarity in polite society. It is an annoyance that an essay containing it should have been posted: it is an outrage that the use of it should be defended, and that someone objecting to it should be dismissed as absurd.

    I doubt that anyone here would use that term at a family gathering or in a job interview or in the confessional or while praying to the Blessed Virgin.

    If it's not good enough for the Mother of God, it's not good enough for the least of His brethren.

    There is a reason why that term will not be heard in any TV show or movie from the "olden days" in which I grew up: the 60s and 70s. The good influence of ʝʊdɛօ-Christian notions of modesty was still too strong for vulgarities like that to be tolerated.

    So what was that about how the carnal Jєωs who have taken over Hollywood and the popular culture are responsible for the lowering of moral standards in recent years? Here we have someone on a Catholic forum in effect arguing in favor of using potty talk in mixed company.

    And in closing I shall point out that that term IS only vulgar, and not "profane."

    But another one used by the poster above is obscene. I won't fisk it. It should just disappear.




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    « Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 11:55:29 PM »
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  • Ad rem.

    The essay posted above is clearly a piece of filth composed by a malicious hooligan. Even those who agree with him about Israel but are still in the realms of sanity and decency know that this is true.

    Thus, what is most objectionable about this piece of filth is that its author has chosen for his title a Saying of our dear Lord which he cutely fractured.

    The low-class and blasphemous joke about Jєωs and crosses is a close second.

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    « Reply #10 on: August 16, 2007, 11:58:39 PM »
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    Cletus, my friend, you are wrong about this one.  The truth may be ugly, even painful, but it is never unclean.  The day that Cathinfo suppresses the truth will be the day it becomes unclean, engaged in the devil's work.  There is such a huge volume of works to back this article up you have to see the fire and not just the smoke.  Furthermore, the best and most informative writings on this subject (the perfidy of the high priests of Judaism) were written by the common Jєωs themselves.  There are many members on this forum in possession of information which back this article up.  


    Nice to see you back and up and about, my friend.

    I think that it would be best to stick to friendly greetings right here and now.


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    « Reply #11 on: August 17, 2007, 08:03:19 AM »
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    Everyone knows that the term the poster above used is considered an unacceptable vulgarity in polite society.


    Which "polite society" is no longer a reality (and your promotion of it is odd when one thinks of your remarks about Catholics who speak kindly of Christendom or the Middle Ages), and some people cling to it the way the Judaism clings to ritual handwashing, prayers for defecation, etc.

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    It is an annoyance that an essay containing it should have been posted


    You are "annoyed".  So what?  There is lots of stuff posted here that I disagree with, and much else that I never even get a chance to read.  Move in other circles if you cannot stomach this one.

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    it is an outrage that the use of it should be defended, and that someone objecting to it should be dismissed as absurd.


    Write your Congressman.

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    I doubt that anyone here would use that term at a family gathering


    No, nor would I rebuke my family who use this, and like phrases, all the time.  As they ensnared in the NO, there are bigger fish to fry.

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    or in a job interview


    I do not believe in jobs that require interviews.

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    or in the confessional or while praying to the Blessed Virgin.


    Are we now stretching things to the point of utter stupidity?  Yes.

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    If it's not good enough for the Mother of God, it's not good enough for the least of His brethren.


    A group of dull, inconstant fishermen were God's own choice.  Coarse language is a gnat Pharisees struggle to swallow, whilst having no problem with countless other camels.

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    There is a reason why that term will not be heard in any TV show or movie from the "olden days" in which I grew up: the 60s and 70s. The good influence of ʝʊdɛօ-Christian notions of modesty was still too strong for vulgarities like that to be tolerated.


    There is no such thing as "ʝʊdɛօ-Christian notions", mate.  This is an invention of our enemies - with whom you unwittingly labor when you speak of such things.  Such hangups actually make me think of...Puritans.

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    So what was that about how the carnal Jєωs who have taken over Hollywood and the popular culture are responsible for the lowering of moral standards in recent years?


    Indeed they have.  And...

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    Here we have someone on a Catholic forum in effect arguing in favor of using potty talk in mixed company.


    If that is potty talk, I am Charlie Brown.  I am not going to refrain from posting an excellent article just to placate the local Pharisees.  Would I use it in an article of my own?  No.

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    And in closing I shall point out that that term IS only vulgar, and not "profane."


    Which term simply means "common".  Ever heard of the Vulgate?  Your comment makes me wonder why you are making such a big deal, as you know that "IS only vulgar".

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    But another one used by the poster above is obscene. I won't fisk it. It should just disappear.


    Now you're catching on, my Pharisaical friend.  Your groundless accusations do not matter (and are, increasingly, very poorly presented).
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    « Reply #12 on: August 17, 2007, 02:57:07 PM »
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  • I don't think that St Aloysius Gonzaga would have called me stupid for saying that if language is not good enough for the Blessed Virgin it is not good enough for one's neighbor.

    He was a follower of Jesus. That was a rarity in Christendom.

    The self-justifications of the poster above are the very devil of what some would call Pharisaical Judaism.

    We shall be held accountable on Judgment Day for every idle word we spoke. IDLE words, the Son of Man says. I tremble to think of what He would have said about DIRTY words.

    It is not very pious to insult the Holy Apostles by making them out to be vulgarians. People who read the Gospels as much as they should know that this whole "crude fisherman" things is a bunch of malarky.

    Two of the Apostles, maybe three, spent most of their early lives in the all holy presence of Jesus and Mary. One was a priest who was called The Just because his "puritanical" strictness impressed even the Pharisees and Scribes.

    John and Andrew and Philip were followers of John the Baptist and presumably followed his way of righteousness, which by Jesus' own account seemed stricter than His own.

    Matthew was only THOUGHT to be a sinner by the hypocrites. He was probably the same refined Jєωιѕн gentleman as a tax collector as he was as an Evangelist.

    To justify coarse language in the name of Catholicism is as stupid as it is diabolical. But I grant that there is a long tradition of bad Catholics' being hypocritical ninnies in the way set forth above. It's called Christendom.


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    « Reply #13 on: August 17, 2007, 03:58:22 PM »
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    I don't think that St Aloysius Gonzaga would have called me stupid for saying that if language is not good enough for the Blessed Virgin it is not good enough for one's neighbor.


    Well, I do not see him posting on this forum.  St. Aloysius would also refrain from being a stooge of the Judaics.  Would you?
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    « Reply #14 on: August 17, 2007, 04:09:19 PM »
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    I tremble to think of what He would have said about DIRTY words.


    He likely would have said that they are dirty, and asked you to pass the lentils.

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    It is not very pious to insult the Holy Apostles by making them out to be vulgarians.


    When someone does this, you let us know, okay?

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    People who read the Gospels as much as they should know that this whole "crude fisherman" things is a bunch of malarky.


    Well, since no one called them "crude", but dull (as we all are) - of which there is a mountain of evidence - you are the one taking a swipe at them for their "crudeness".

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    Two of the Apostles, maybe three, spent most of their early lives in the all holy presence of Jesus and Mary.


    Is that in the Gospels?

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    One was a priest who was called The Just because his "puritanical" strictness impressed even the Pharisees and Scribes.


    Which was certainly his dominant intention.

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    John and Andrew and Philip were followers of John the Baptist and presumably followed his way of righteousness, which by Jesus' own account seemed stricter than His own.


    Thanks for the history lesson.  Your point?

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    Matthew was only THOUGHT to be a sinner by the hypocrites. He was probably the same refined Jєωιѕн gentleman as a tax collector as he was as an Evangelist.


    He might have been.  Your point?

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    To justify coarse language in the name of Catholicism is as stupid as it is diabolical.


    I am saying sensible men do not get hung up on it like Victorian ladies with nothing better to do.  That is not the same as "justifying" it.

    I suppose you are offering us an example of how St. Aloysius would respond?

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    But I grant that there is a long tradition of bad Catholics' being hypocritical ninnies in the way set forth above.


    By above, if you mean your own remarks, I grant the truth of your comment.

    Now, if you should care to comment on something other than your "offended sensibilities", we should all be very grateful.
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