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"U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
« on: October 12, 2011, 07:13:46 AM »
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  • http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/12/national/main20119095.shtml


    (CBS/AP)  WASHINGTON - The Obama administration plans to leverage charges that Iran plotted to αssαssιnαtҽ Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States into a new global campaign to isolate the Islamic republic.
    "It's critically important that we unite the world in the isolation of and dealing with the Iranians," Vice President Joe Biden said on "The Early Show" Wednesday. "That's the surest way to be able to get results."

    U.S. officials say the administration will lobby for the imposition of new international sanctions as well as for individual nations to expand their own penalties against Iran based on allegations that Iranian agents tried to recruit a purported member of a Mexican drug cartel to kill the Saudi envoy on American soil.

    Biden also said that U.S. action against Iran could go beyond sanctions, but added that "we're not going there yet."

    Holder: Iran aimed to bomb Saudi ambassador
    Iran rejects U.S. plot claim as "childish"
    Read the criminal complaint (PDF)

    "This really, in the minds of many diplomats and government officials, crosses a line that Iran needs to be held to account for," Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told The Associated Press in an interview Tuesday. She said she and President Barack Obama want to "enlist more countries in working together against what is becoming a clearer and clearer threat" from Iran.

    Britain's government said Wednesday it was consulting with the U.S. and others over new international sanctions against Iran. "We would support any measures that help hold Iran accountable for its actions," said Steve Field, spokesman for British Prime Minister David Cameron.

    Clinton and other U.S. officials said the alleged plot is a gross violation of international law and further proof that Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, a label Washington has for decades applied to the Iranian government. The officials said it also underscores concerns that despite its denials Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons under cover of a civilian atomic energy program.

    "The idea that they would attempt to go to a Mexican drug cartel to solicit murder-for-hire to kill the Saudi ambassador? Nobody could make that up, right?" Clinton said shortly after U.S. prosecutors accused two suspected Iranian agents of trying to murder Saudi envoy Adel Al-Jubeir. The purported plan was to carry out the assassination with a bomb attack while Al-Jubeir dined at his favorite restaurant.

    U.S. issues terror alert after foiled Iran plot
    The Quds: Iran's shadowy terrorist trainers

    Mr. Obama called al-Jubeir on Tuesday to declare that the foiled assassination plot was a "flagrant" violation of U.S. and international law, the White House said. The president expressed solidarity with Saudi Arabia and said he was committed to ensuring the security of diplomats in the United States. White House press secretary Jay Carney disclosed broad outlines of the call in a statement.

    Iran's parliament speaker, Ali Larijani, called the Justice Department's claims a "childish game."

    "These are cheap claims. By giving it a wide media coverage, it was evident that they are trying to cover up their own problems," Larijani told an open session of the parliament Wednesday.

    "They (Americans) suffered a political stroke and learned that they had begun a childish game," he said. "We have normal relations with the Saudis. There is no reason for Iran to carry out such childish acts."

    The State Department late Tuesday warned Americans around the world of the potential for terrorist attacks against U.S. interests. It said Iranian-sponsored attacks could include strikes in the United States.

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    Offline Raoul76

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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 02:10:15 PM »
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  • Very ominous.

    When QEI, QEII, and QEIII have all failed, perhaps population reduction through a staged nuclear h0Ɩ0cαųst will do the trick!
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 04:36:01 AM »
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  •   America united not only all the world against Iran, it also united all iranians against Iran. I am sure that if America ever attacks us, no persian man will go defend his Country. America kills in the name of humanity freedom and justice, and whoever disagrees with america is look down on as an enemy of justice, as an idiot.
      I hate to see my people brain washed like that.
    Do you think america has soldiers only in Iraq and Afghanistan? Then I tell you that it already has 70 million soldiers living in Iran ready to die for american ideals. Their nationality is persian, their ideals are american.
      They have convinced the who world that there is no inhumanity worse than patriotism. :really-mad2:

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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 09:25:54 AM »
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  • The Iran is as dangerous to the USA... entire world as Saddam Hussein's famous weapons of mass destruction were.

    (Have they found these weapons by now, by the way?)

    The Ex-CIA man Robert Bear told the British Guardian that the USA's accusations against Iran are a fake. Others did so too.

    Most probably it's just another lie to start another war of aggression, in order to distract from the danger of crash of the USA and the Western societies in general. A web of lies it is.

    Bishop Williamson warned about this danger of war in various Eleison Comments.
    EC 179 Capitalism unfolding:
    Quote from: Bishop W
    But money is to a society what lubricating oil is to an engine. Without oil, an engine seizes up and is killed dead. Without money in a society, exchange becomes much more difficult, and commerce can be slowed to a standstill. If for any such reason the food-trucks (or lorries) could not run, and food ran short, especially in the big cities, what could a politician do to head off the food riots, and to stop the peasants from coming after him with pitchforks? Start a war!


    But since the many catholic foreseers told about a World War III which would match well our times, they sooner or later will attack the Iran which then will open the Pandora's box i.e. World War III. It's just a matter of time. May God have mercy upon us.

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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 07:08:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ethelred
    The Ex-CIA man Robert Bear told the British Guardian that the USA's accusations against Iran are a fake. Others did so too.


    It's Baer and he is not saying the accusations are fake but rather that the accusations and the narrative do not add up.  Fake implies that there is an ulterior motive.

    Even then, the narrative might be fake, or ginned up for ulterior motives, both those motives need not be war.  There is just not enough known to figure this out at this point.



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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 02:22:30 AM »
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  • Thanks Vandaler for the correction.
    So it's Mr Bär in German. :-)  (ae is ä, and German Bär means Bear in English, that's the reason for my scrambled letters.)

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    Even then, the narrative might be fake, or ginned up for ulterior motives, both those motives need not be war.  There is just not enough known to figure this out at this point.

    Now I've to correct you: Countless times Israel and their hound dog USA said publicly they want to attack Iran. Take a look at history: first the words, then the actions. So it's just a matter of time.

    Was it last year or before last year when a brave US American general (I think the one being responsible for the Middle East) personally prevented the already started attack of Israel against Iran? I think the general has been kicked then. Well known name, just can't remember it...

    Israel and the USA which is controlled by the Jєωs don't tolerate a non-Zionist power in the Middle East. That's why they will start a war. They already did so with several countries in order to encircle Iran, don't you remember?

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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 05:39:25 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ethelred
    Now I've to correct you:


    Hi,

    I've been debating against those that are "certain"  it's coming ever since 2004 which puts me in a very comfertable position.  Only once in those years did I flinch and conceded it was a possibility.  Right now, I don't see it.

    To many loose ends in this case.


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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 10:10:37 AM »
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  • We have been hearing the same Iran mantra for how many years now? I am just tired of it.

    Andy


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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 11:43:42 AM »
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  • It's like some kind of Samuel Beckett absurdist farce, what's going on.  The world is in such sad shape you can't even get upset about it.  

    Today the press is saying, as if it's some shocking development, that Iran is developing a nuclear bomb...  We have known that for years.  The politicians, the press, they don't even care to put any effort into their screenplays anymore; because that's what all this is, a screenplay, and a really lousy one.  This whole story with the ambassador is like something it takes fifteen minutes to come up with, it's so inane and ridiculous.  But they want to tie that together with the "Iran has a nuclear bomb!" fearmongering message.  

    It has spectacularly failed, everyone sees through it, but will that stop them?  Of course not.  They don't care.

    One more comment to make:  You know how 9/11 is considered by many conspiracy theorists to have been an excuse to attack Iraq?  Do you really think they needed to go that much trouble?  The weapons of mass destruction hoax was enough for them to launch their attack on Iraq, just like the cheap little ambassador-assassination hoax is enough for them to attack Iran.  The 9/11 event was simply ritual murder.    


    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 15, 2011, 06:36:52 AM »
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  •   So what happens next?
    1-they don't attack, just threaten till both parties find a solution,
    2-they don't attack, replace the govt with a liberal one, make us their colony,
    3-they attack, many get killed in the war

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    "U.S. aims to "unite the world" against Iran"
    « Reply #10 on: October 15, 2011, 11:38:09 AM »
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  • I wouldn't put it past Obama to "wag the dog" and launch an invasion of Iran (which the Neo-Cons would salivate to support) to distract from the abysmal job Obama has done so far and the state of the economy. Clinton did it with Kosovo in the 90's to distract from affair de Lewinski.

    He may launch it right before the 2012 election to boost popularity and draw moderates towards the Commander In Chief during a time of war. And, of course, it fits neatly in the plan for the NWO, under which, backwards theocracies like Iran must be eliminated to make way for worldwide global socialism.