Author Topic: Why is "Honour thy father and mother" more important than "Thy shalt not murder" (Read 2072 times)

St Paul · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2019, 01:22:43 PM »

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a4.htm

PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST
SECTION TWO
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
CHAPTER TWO
"YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF"
ARTICLE 4
THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT

Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you.⁴
He was obedient to them.⁵

The Lord Jesus himself recalled the force of this "commandment of God."⁶ The Apostle teaches: "Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 'Honor your father and mother,' (This is the first commandment with a promise.) 'that it may be well with you and that you may live long on the earth."'⁷

2197 The fourth commandment opens the second table of the Decalogue. It shows us the order of charity. God has willed that, after him, we should honor our parents to whom we owe life and who have handed on to us the knowledge of God. We are obliged to honor and respect all those whom God, for our good, has vested with his authority.
2198 This commandment is expressed in positive terms of duties to be fulfilled. It introduces the subsequent commandments which are concerned with particular respect for life, marriage, earthly goods, and speech. It constitutes one of the foundations of the social doctrine of the Church.
2199 The fourth commandment is addressed expressly to children in their relationship to their father and mother, because this relationship is the most universal. It likewise concerns the ties of kinship between members of the extended family. It requires honor, affection, and gratitude toward elders and ancestors. Finally, it extends to the duties of pupils to teachers, employees to employers, subordinates to leaders, citizens to their country, and to those who administer or govern it.
This commandment includes and presupposes the duties of parents, instructors, teachers, leaders, magistrates, those who govern, all who exercise authority over others or over a community of persons.
2200 Observing the fourth commandment brings its reward: "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the LORD your God gives you."⁸ Respecting this commandment provides, along with spiritual fruits, temporal fruits of peace and prosperity. Conversely, failure to observe it brings great harm to communities and to individuals.
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2218 The fourth commandment reminds grown children of their responsibilities toward their parents. As much as they can, they must give them material and moral support in old age and in times of illness, loneliness, or distress. Jesus recalls this duty of gratitude.²³

For the Lord honored the father above the children, and he confirmed the right of the mother over her sons. Whoever honors his father atones for sins, and whoever glorifies his mother is like one who lays up treasure. Whoever honors his father will be gladdened by his own children, and when he prays he will be heard. Whoever glorifies his father will have long life, and whoever obeys the Lord will refresh his mother.²⁴
O son, help your father in his old age, and do not grieve him as long as he lives; even if he is lacking in understanding, show forbearance; in all your strength do not despise him. . . . Whoever forsakes his father is like a blasphemer, and whoever angers his mother is cursed by the Lord.²⁵

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St Paul · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2019, 01:25:53 PM »

Quote from: NaomhAdhamhnan on February 15, 2019, 11:39:52 AM

Could someone give me some examples of precisely how one breaks the 4th commandment, or elaborate on it a little?

Thanks.

Baltimore catechism #3

Q. 1268. What is forbidden by the fourth Commandment?
A. The fourth Commandment forbids all disobedience, contempt, and stubbornness towards our parents or lawful superiors.

St Paul · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2019, 01:38:13 PM »

More help for you:

https://trcthoughts.com/2013/06/mortal-sin-against-the-fourth-commandment/

http://www.traditionalcatholicpriest.com/examination-of-conscience/

http://www.baltimore-catechism.com/lesson33.htm
Q. 1268. What is forbidden by the fourth Commandment?
A. The fourth Commandment forbids all disobedience, contempt, and stubbornness towards our parents or lawful superiors.

St Paul · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2019, 02:14:50 PM »

Quote from: NaomhAdhamhnan on February 15, 2019, 11:39:52 AM

I have been told that the commandments are given in order of importance, why is it that "honour thy father and thy mother" is more important than "thou shalt not murder"?

Whoever told you that is wrong:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2.htm

The unity of the Decalogue
2069 The Decalogue forms a coherent whole. Each "word" refers to each of the others and to all of them; they reciprocally condition one another. The two tables shed light on one another; they form an organic unity. To transgress one commandment is to infringe all the others.30 One cannot honor another person without blessing God his Creator. One cannot adore God without loving all men, his creatures. The Decalogue brings man's religious and social life into unity.

St. James chapter 2
http://www.drbo.org/chapter/66002.htm

"And whosoever shall keep the whole law, but offend in one point, is become guilty of all."

poche · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2019, 10:45:25 PM »

If you honor your parents then you honor God.

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