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Whose oil was used for the Episcopal Consecrations?
« on: July 01, 2026, 09:14:38 AM »
Anyone know? Could it have been Hounders? If so, what are ramifications?

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Re: Whose oil was used for the Episcopal Consecrations?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2026, 09:55:30 AM »
Anyone know? Could it have been Hounders? If so, what are ramifications?
I suppose oils are replaced every year. But there is a huge difference between oil (of the Catechumens) and chrism. 
What is specifically used for Consecrating bishops, I am not sure? Maybe both.
______________________Nice article  below...

https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/chrism

   Chrism
, a mixture of oil of olives and balsam, blessed by a bishop in a special manner and used in the administration of certain sacraments and in the performance of certain ecclesiastical functions. That chrism may serve as valid matter for the Sacrament of Confirmation it must consist of pure oil of olives, and it must be blessed by a bishop, or at least by a priest delegated by the Holy See. These two conditions are certainly necessary for validity; moreover it is probable that there should be an admixture of balsam, and that the blessing of the chrism should be special, in the sense that it ought to be different from that which is given to the oil of the sick or the oil of catechumens. (Cf. Lehmkuhl, Cas. Cons. II, n. 102.) If either of the last two conditions is wanting the sacrament will be doubtfully valid. To deal with the subject in a sufficiently exhaustive manner, it will be enough to touch upon (I) the origin and antiquity of chrism; (2) its constituent nature; (3) its blessing; and (4) its use and symbolical significance.

(I) Origin.—In its primitive meaning the word chrism, like the Greek chrisma, was used to designate any and every substance that served the purpose of smearing or anointing, such as the various kinds of oils, unguents, and pigments. This was its ordinary signification in profane literature, and even in the early patristic writings. Gradually however, in the writings of the Fathers at all events, the term came to be restricted to that special kind of oil that was used in religious ceremonies and functions, especially in the administration of the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation. Thus Origen refers to the visible chrism in which we have all been baptized: St. Ambrose venerates in the chrism the oil of grace which makes kings and priests; and St. Cyril of Jerusalem celebrates the praises of the mystic chrism...

Use and Significance.—Chrism is used in the administration of the Sacraments of Baptism, Confirmation, and Holy Orders, in the consecration of churches, chalices, patens, altars, and altar-stones, and in the solemn blessing of bells and baptismal water. The head of the newly-baptized is anointed with chrism, the forehead of the person confirmed, the head and hands of a bishop at his consecration, and the hands of a priest at his ordination. So are the walls of churches, which are solemnly consecrated, anointed with the same holy oil, and the parts of the sacred vessels used in the Mass which come in contact with the Sacred Species, as the paten and chalice. If it be asked why chrism has been thus introduced into the functions of the church liturgy, a reason is found in its special fitness for this purpose by reason of its symbolical significance. For olive-oil, being of its own nature rich, diffusive, and abiding, is fitted to represent the copious outpouring of sacramental grace, while balsam, which gives forth most agreeable and fragrant odors, typifies the innate sweetness of Christian virtue. Oil also gives strength and suppleness to the limbs, while balsam preserves from corruption. Thus anointing with chrism aptly signifies that fulness of grace and spiritual strength by which we are enabled to resist the contagion of sin and produce the sweet flowers of virtue. “For we are the good odor of Christ unto God” (II Cor., ii, 15).

PATRICK MORRISROE





Re: Whose oil was used for the Episcopal Consecrations?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2026, 11:01:55 AM »
Anyone know? Could it have been Hounders? If so, what are ramifications?

You just suggested a doubt which may be debated on the Trad forums for years.

The adequacey or inadequacy of the "oils" will be cited to explain many future problems and events with the SSPX.

There will be forensic investigations and even DNA testing on the "oils" to support different theories on their origin and blessings.

All because the SSPX leadership thought it a nice thing to embrace the Destroyer pope's buddy. an  old modernist Bishop who feigned conversion to tradition.

Re: Whose oil was used for the Episcopal Consecrations?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2026, 11:44:56 AM »
Anyone know? Could it have been Hounders? If so, what are ramifications?
That would have absolutely no impact on the validity.

Re: Whose oil was used for the Episcopal Consecrations?
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2026, 12:04:03 PM »