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Which Bible publisher & format ? - not asking translation, revision or edition
« on: October 28, 2021, 12:20:53 PM »
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    • Good evening. I would like advice as to a specific publisher and format. I am not seeking advice on edition, revision, translation, etc.

    I am looking for:

    1. Douay-Rheims, Challoner revision (more modern revisions are welcome, as it would be read to a 6 y.o. child);
    2. Leather cover;
    3. Flexible (semi-rigid) cover;
    4. Size of book for bed time reading (not too small, nor too big... 8" x 6"?);
    5. The largest possible fonts;
    6. Clear font types (fonts as in the Fr Lasance Missals are uncomfortable);
    7. Clear layout of paragraphs and formatting;
    Possibly also nice images, tables, chronological charts, etc, but this would be only a welcome extra.

    Large & clearly readable fonts are paramount. The absolute minimum size would be the font used by the Angelus Press Roman Daily Missal for the Ordinary of the Mass, but larger fonts would make the recommendation much preferable.

    Thanks in advance for sharing your time and your expertise.

    Regards, Tommaso
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    Re: Which Bible publisher & format ? - not asking translation, revision or edition
    « Reply #1 on: October 28, 2021, 01:22:19 PM »
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    • This Loreto Bible is the best that I could find. I use it because of the readability of the print and the font size (uses same font size as Angelus Missal Ordinary) Cover is not flexible, however. And it is a bit larger at 9 x 6 rather than 8 x 6. 

    https://loretopubs.org/douay-rheims-hardbound-bible.html

    The other one I have is the Baronius version. It has a flexible cover (pseudo-leather). 8 x 6. Nice feel in the hand. But smaller font and harder to read for older eyes. Font is smaller than Angelus Missal Ordinary.

    https://www.baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=2#tab=tab-1

    Both are nice Bibles. If readability is most important. Go with Loreto. 
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    « Reply #2 on: October 28, 2021, 01:54:12 PM »
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    Re: Which Bible publisher & format ? - not asking translation, revision or edition
    « Reply #3 on: October 29, 2021, 05:36:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Angelus on October 28, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
    This Loreto Bible is the best that I could find. I use it because of the readability of the print and the font size (uses same font size as Angelus Missal Ordinary) Cover is not flexible, however. And it is a bit larger at 9 x 6 rather than 8 x 6.    https://loretopubs.org/douay-rheims-hardbound-bible.html

    The other one I have is the Baronius version. It has a flexible cover (pseudo-leather). 8 x 6. Nice feel in the hand. But smaller font and harder to read for older eyes. Font is smaller than Angelus Missal Ordinary.   https://www.baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=2#tab=tab-1

    Both are nice Bibles. If readability is most important. Go with Loreto.
    Thank you. I looked at both and both seem lovely. Baronius Press version is going to be a challenge because of font size. But I see that they have a very large one (10"). I wonder what font size that one has been published in. I wrote to Baronius and I hope that they will reply but... the size... it might a bit too large to hold and read in bed to my little one.

    ... still considering. But thank you for the two recommendations.

    Tommaso
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    Re: Which Bible publisher & format ? - not asking translation, revision or edition
    « Reply #4 on: October 29, 2021, 05:49:51 AM »
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    Re: Which Bible publisher & format ? - not asking translation, revision or edition
    « Reply #5 on: October 29, 2021, 08:38:44 AM »
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    • I don’t recall if you live in the United States or not, but if you have opportunity to visit used book shops look for a Catholic Bible from the 1950’s – early 1960’s.  The St. Joseph’s Edition was a popular and common one but there may be others.  The one’s I’m familiar with were typically with a hard cover but I’m sure there were other varieties.
     
    These bibles will have the Douay-Rheims (Challoner revision) Old Testament and the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine translation of the New Testament, often referred to as the “Confraternity Edition or Version”.  Some of the Old Testament was eventually translated also.  This translation project continued into the late 1960’s, when work began on the “New American Bible” translation.
     
    For those who may be suspicious (or even unaware) of the Confraternity Edition, if you have a TLM missal published from the 1940’s through today in the U.S., it will use the Confraternity version of the New Testament, and this will be the English translation of the Epistle and Gospel that the priest reads from the pulpit.  In other English speaking countries I believe the Knox translation of scripture was often used in missals.
     
    I realize that this is not exactly the information you asked for, but it provides some options.  In a used book shop you can see all the physical characteristics of the tome to ascertain if it will be suitable, and you often will find a nice copy at a more affordable price than ordering new.
     
     


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    Re: Which Bible publisher & format ? - not asking translation, revision or edition
    « Reply #6 on: October 29, 2021, 10:09:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: moneil on October 29, 2021, 08:38:44 AM
    I don’t recall if you live in the United States or not, but if you have opportunity to visit used book shops look for a Catholic Bible from the 1950’s – early 1960’s.  The St. Joseph’s Edition was a popular and common one but there may be others.  The one’s I’m familiar with were typically with a hard cover but I’m sure there were other varieties.
     
    These bibles will have the Douay-Rheims (Challoner revision) Old Testament and the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine translation of the New Testament, often referred to as the “Confraternity Edition or Version”.  Some of the Old Testament was eventually translated also.  This translation project continued into the late 1960’s, when work began on the “New American Bible” translation.
     
    For those who may be suspicious (or even unaware) of the Confraternity Edition, if you have a TLM missal published from the 1940’s through today in the U.S., it will use the Confraternity version of the New Testament, and this will be the English translation of the Epistle and Gospel that the priest reads from the pulpit.  In other English speaking countries I believe the Knox translation of scripture was often used in missals.
     
    I realize that this is not exactly the information you asked for, but it provides some options.  In a used book shop you can see all the physical characteristics of the tome to ascertain if it will be suitable, and you often will find a nice copy at a more affordable price than ordering new.
     
     
    I've personally purchased 3 large 1950's Catholic Bibles from a used bookstore. Paid only 10 bucks a piece. I LOVE them but they are very large and heavy. To the O.P., if you're going to be reading to a 6 year old I would honestly go with a version which has at least the New Testament with the Confraternity Edition translation. It would be easier for a child to understand, while still retaining elegant language and remaining a faithful translation/revision of the Douay-Rheims (Challoner revision). I've attached a link to a good Bible I have which has this criteria. It's from 1957, but about half the size of the very large 1950's Bibles that moneli and I mentioned before. It has fairly large text and even a flexible leather binding/cover. It features the Douay-Rheims (Challoner revision) Old Testament (with some old testament books using the Confraternity revision*explained in pics below*) and the Confraternity Edition New Testament. It even has some beautiful colored illustrations inside. The copy I have that I found at a used bookstore is in good shape. I have located a few used copies online by google searching "holy bible 1957 new catholic addition". Below are a few links of used versions I've found online (I do not believe they are in print anymore). You can find them for as little as 15/20 bucks;


    VINTAGE~NEW CATHOLIC EDITION OF THE HOLY BIBLE, CONFRATERNITY-DOUAY VERSION,1957 | eBay


    *VINTAGE* ~ HOLY BIBLE 1957 NEW CATHOLIC... book (thriftbooks.com)
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    Re: Which Bible publisher & format ? - not asking translation, revision or edition
    « Reply #7 on: October 29, 2021, 10:12:51 AM »
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    • Someone on ebay has posted pics of this Bible. Below I have posted a few of them (zoom in a bit for a more accurate view of the text size);

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    Re: Which Bible publisher & format ? - not asking translation, revision or edition
    « Reply #13 on: October 29, 2021, 12:01:15 PM »
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    • I just might buy that bible, Todd. What is the difference between the confraternity douay rheims translation and the older douay rheims version?
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    « Reply #14 on: October 29, 2021, 07:33:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: DustyActual on October 29, 2021, 12:01:15 PM
    I just might buy that bible, Todd. What is the difference between the confraternity douay rheims translation and the older douay rheims version?
    What Old Testament Confraternity - Douay version means is that some of the books are the newer Confraternity translation and some are the Douay (Bishop Challoner revision) translation.
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