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Offline Disputaciones

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What is the difference musically between choirs
« on: October 03, 2025, 02:59:36 PM »
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    • I mean between this choir (starting at 12:45 for example)

    https://youtu.be/jqkqc2-iteQ?si=ZSkG4BOuOkEHI_Hr

    And this other choir (at the 15 minute mark)

    https://youtu.be/c32brXXx5k8?si=ie1Bg5B0sBkqACKq

    Both choirs start singing before the times I put here of course but those are the times I had the videos on when copying the links. 

    What do you have to do with your voice so that it sounds like the first video? Or do some people simply “sound like that” when they sing?

    I know nothing about music so I don’t know why the first one sounds a lot better than the second one. 
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    Offline Marcellinus

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    Re: What is the difference musically between choirs
    « Reply #1 on: October 03, 2025, 04:02:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Disputaciones on October 03, 2025, 02:59:36 PM
    I mean between this choir (starting at 12:45 for example)

    https://youtu.be/jqkqc2-iteQ?si=ZSkG4BOuOkEHI_Hr

    And this other choir (at the 15 minute mark)

    https://youtu.be/c32brXXx5k8?si=ie1Bg5B0sBkqACKq

    Both choirs start singing before the times I put here of course but those are the times I had the videos on when copying the links.

    What do you have to do with your voice so that it sounds like the first video? Or do some people simply “sound like that” when they sing?

    I know nothing about music so I don’t know why the first one sounds a lot better than the second one.
    What you hear in the first video would sound almost nothing like what you hear in that video.  The sound is recorded using carbon microphones, which are very lo-fi and change the sound dramatically.  
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    Offline Justinian

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    Re: What is the difference musically between choirs
    « Reply #2 on: October 03, 2025, 04:15:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Disputaciones on October 03, 2025, 02:59:36 PM
    I mean between this choir (starting at 12:45 for example)

    https://youtu.be/jqkqc2-iteQ?si=ZSkG4BOuOkEHI_Hr

    And this other choir (at the 15 minute mark)

    https://youtu.be/c32brXXx5k8?si=ie1Bg5B0sBkqACKq

    Both choirs start singing before the times I put here of course but those are the times I had the videos on when copying the links.

    What do you have to do with your voice so that it sounds like the first video? Or do some people simply “sound like that” when they sing?

    I know nothing about music so I don’t know why the first one sounds a lot better than the second one.
    The 2nd video with the Paris congregation is a more modern recording than the other one so it sounds better and clearer. The voices wouldn’t be any different if you went back in time and listened to both live.
    isn’t it wonderful that Latin is the universal language of the church, so I could sing with those French people but hardly speak a word to them in French!?
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    Re: What is the difference musically between choirs
    « Reply #3 on: October 03, 2025, 07:54:23 PM »
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    • Here’s a new one 

    https://youtu.be/b6AYs_0HLgQ?si=NNU-qNy6fzAgk1vY

    Is it the echo?
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    Re: What is the difference musically between choirs
    « Reply #4 on: October 03, 2025, 09:36:44 PM »
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    • The first example sounds like that because it's a European model of choral singing that no longer exists in the US save for 3 places: the Choir of Men and Boys. 

    The men are all classically trained singers, often operatically trained. So their sound is very free and full of vigor, because that's how they were taught to sing; opera has no microphones, so you must tell a story over a loud orchestra. The boy trebles singing largely come from the parish school and they get daily instruction.

    It mostly doesn't exist anymore in the United States because you have mixed choirs in the Church, and so less demand, which means less tuition and schools closing. 
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    Re: What is the difference musically between choirs
    « Reply #5 on: October 04, 2025, 05:33:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Disputaciones on October 03, 2025, 07:54:23 PM
    Here’s a new one

    https://youtu.be/b6AYs_0HLgQ?si=NNU-qNy6fzAgk1vY

    Is it the echo?
    I think that the difference is having a choir properly trained in blending and fullness.  In your first post, the first video sounds like a group of men trained to sing well together.  The second video is of a whole church of trained and untrained voices singing together.  Trying to get a whole congregation to blend together is almost impossible. 

    For example here is a song I made to be sung like chant where it is full and smooth sounding but in the video there is no church with acoustics to help with that.  It is an old style of singing that you don't see as much these days unless you are trained.  It took me at least 2-3 years to get the traditional Catholic choir I was director of to get a nice blend (before I was married and now rarely sing except for weddings).

    https://youtu.be/IFt0OJBzUFs?si=HDYoU9ZB2uL0qF4d


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