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Offline Kephapaulos

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What constitutes praying the Rosary?
« on: August 01, 2012, 12:57:37 AM »
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  • Is the prayer taken from the Feast of the Most Holy Rosary required to be said at the end of saying the Rosary in order to have said a complete Rosary (for I have not always seen it included in Rosary pamphlets or booklets)? I had even gathered that the Litany of Loreto could be said at the end too.

    Also, is it true that Rome did not officially make the Fatima Prayer part of the Rosary (for I see that it is not also always included in Rosary pamphlets or booklets)? I know that the Fatima Prayer should still be said, but I am curious to see why it is not always included. It seems that its exclusion hints at the downplay of the importantance of the apparitions at Fatima.


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    Offline Anthony Benedict

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    What constitutes praying the Rosary?
    « Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 01:37:55 AM »
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  • This is hardly definitive but merely reflective of "learned comments" I've come across over the years:

    1. In the strictest sense, the Rosary consists of the Paters at the beginning of each decade, followed by the ten Aves and one Gloria at the end.  I believe it was a priest who mentioned once that all other prayers are "customary" and not integral to the chaplet itself.  Many Dominican sources claim that the fifteen mysteries were taught to St. Dominic ( or, perhaps Bl. Alan centuries later ) by Our Lady Herself.

    2. Having once lived in a part of New York State rather renowned for its Rosary piety ( at least within Catholic circles ) throughout most of the parishes, I found that there were a number of additional "intentions", aspirations, ejaculations and even the litanies of which you write added by the pious.   Some were rather lengthy.


    Offline Scriptorium

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    What constitutes praying the Rosary?
    « Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 07:31:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: Anthony Benedict
    2. Having once lived in a part of New York State rather renowned for its Rosary piety ( at least within Catholic circles ) throughout most of the parishes, I found that there were a number of additional "intentions", aspirations, ejaculations and even the litanies of which you write added by the pious.   Some were rather lengthy.


    Trimmings Of The Rosary
    by Monsignor Patrick Hartigan

    Ah, the memories that find me now my hair is turning gray,
    Drifting in like painted butterflies from paddocks far away;
    Dripping dainty wings in fancy-and the pictures, fading fast,
    Stand again in rose and purple in the album of the past.
    There's the old slab dwelling dreaming by the wistful, watchful trees,
    Where the coolabahs are listening to the stories of the breeze;
    There's a homely welcome beaming from its big, bright friendly eyes,
    With the Sugarloaf behind it blackened in against the skies;
    There's the same dear happy circle round the boree's cheery blaze
    With a little Irish Mother telling tales of other days.
    She had one sweet, holy custom which I never can forget,
    And a gentle benediction crowns her memory for it yet;
    I can see that little mother still and hear her as she pleads,
    "Now it's getting on to bed-time; all you childer get your beads."
    There were no steel-bound conventions in that old slab dwelling free;
    Only this-each night she lined us up to say the Rosary;
    E'en the stranger there, who stayed the night upon his journey, knew
    He must join the little circle, ay, and take his decade too.
    I believe she darkly plotted, when a sinner hove in sight
    Who was known to say no prayer at all, to make him stay the night.
    Then we'd softly gather round her, and we'd speak in accents low,
    And pray like Sainted Dominic so many years ago;
    And the little Irish mother's face was radiant, for she knew
    That "where two or three are gathered" He is gathered with them too.
    O'er the paters and the aves how her reverent head would bend!
    How she'd kiss the cross devoutly when she counted to the end!
    And the visitor would rise at once, and brush his knees-and then
    He'd look very, very foolish as he took the boards again.
    She had other prayers to keep him. They were long, long prayers in truth;
    And we used to call them "Trimmin's" in my disrespectful youth.
    She would pray for kith and kin, and all the friends she'd ever known,
    Yes, and everyone of us could boast a "trimmin'" all his own.
    She would pray for all our little needs, and every shade of care
    That might darken o'er The Sugarloaf, she'd meet it with a prayer.
    She would pray for this one's "sore complaint,' or that one's "hurled hand,"
    Or that someone else might make a deal and get "that bit of land";
    Or that Dad might sell the cattle well, and season's good might rule,
    So that little John, the weakly one, might go away to school.
    There were trimmin's, too, that came and went but ne'er she closed without
    Adding one for something special "none of you must speak about."
    Gentle was that little mother, and her wit would sparkle free,
    But she'd murder him who looked around while at the Rosary:
    And if perchance you lost your beads, disaster waited you,
    For the only one she'd pardon was "himself"-because she knew
    He was hopeless, and 'twas sinful what excuses he'd invent,
    So she let him have his fingers, and he cracked them as he went,
    And, bedad, he wasn't certain if he'd counted five or ten,
    Yet he'd face the crisis bravely, and would start around again;
    But she tallied all the decades, and she'd block him on the spot,
    With a "Glory, Daddah, Glory!" and he'd "Glory" like a shot.
    She would portion out the decades to the company at large;
    But when she reached the trimmin's she would put herself in charge;
    And it oft was cause for wonder how she never once forgot,
    But could keep them in their order till she went right through the lot.
    For that little Irish mother's prayers embraced the country wide;
    If a neighbour met with trouble, or was taken ill, or died,
    We could count upon a trimmin'-till, in fact, it got that way
    That the Rosary was but trimmin's to the trimmin's we would say.
    Then "himself" would start keownrawning-for the public good, we thought-
    "Sure you'll have us here till mornin'. Yerra, cut them trimmin's short!"
    But she'd take him very gently, till he softened by degrees-
    "Well, then, let us get it over. Come now, all hands to their knees."
    So the little Irish mother kept her trimmin's to the last,
    Ever growing as the shadows o'er the old selection passed;
    And she lit our drab existence with her simple faith and love,
    And I know the angels lingered near to bear her prayers above,
    For her children trod the path she trod, nor did they later spurn
    To impress her wholesome maxims on their children in their turn.
    Ay, and every "sore complaint" came right, and every "hurled hand";
    And we made a deal from time to time, and got "that bit of land";
    And Dad did sell the cattle well; and little John, her pride,
    Was he who said the Mass in black the morning that she died;
    So her gentle spirit triumphed-for 'twas this, without a doubt,
    Was the very special trimmin' that she kept so dark about.

    But the years have crowded past us, and the fledglings all have flown,
    And the nest beneath The Sugarloaf no longer is their own;
    For a hand has written "finis" and the book is closed for good-
    There's a stately red-tiled mansion where the old slab dwelling stood;
    There the stranger has her "evenings," and the formal supper's spread,
    But I wonder has she "trimmin's" now, or is the Rosary said?
    Ah, those little Irish mothers passing from us one by one!
    Who will write the noble story of the good that they have done ?
    All their children may be scattered, and their fortunes windwards hurled,
    But the Trimmin's on the Rosary will bless them round the world.

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    What constitutes praying the Rosary?
    « Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 11:27:31 PM »
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  • In replies to various queries submitted to the Irish Ecclesiastical Record, found in the tome Problems in the Liturgy by Rev. Fr. Gerard Montague (Westminster, MD: The Newman Press, 1958), you may find some answers to your questions regarding the recitation of the Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary:






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