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Dear Stubborn, please forgive me, but I reject your teachings and will stay with the explanations of the Vatican Council and of Our Lord in Mt 24.

I forgive you.

Mt 24:13 But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved.

I rarely agree with Stubborn, but I must here. The consummation of the world means the end of the world.

If someone says X will last until the end of time, they mean it will last until the final moment of existence - not that it will cease to exist when the Apocalypse commences.

But that same someone is the Vatican Council which does not say "until the end of time". There is a poor translation which says "until the end of time", but that's not the Vatican Council. The Vatican Council, the someone, says "usque ad consummationem saeculi" - until the consummation of the world.

In Mt 24 the disciples ask Our Lord: and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the consummation of the world? And the answer of the Lord is that several things will happen until finally the gospel will have been preached all over the world, and then the consummation will come. Then, when we see the abomination of desolation, then the consummation will happen. Then we should read Daniel, watch out, run away, etc.

The abomination of desolation signals the beginning of the End Times, but Vatican I more likely suggests that the Papacy will remain until the end of the End Times(i.e the exact moment the world ends) rather than merely the beginning of the End Times. This is further supported by the fact that the "gates of Hell shall not prevail against Her" promise is not qualified with any "until the End Times" or "until the abomination of desolation" or anything similar.

Yes, the "gates of hell"-promise is not limited until the consummation. The gates of hell shall never prevail. But the "gates of hell"-promise does not concern shepherds or the Pope. The Council of Trent teaches that "the gates of Hell shall not prevail against her" means that the gates of hell won't prevail against the Faith as defined in the Creed of the same Council:

For which cause, this council has thought good, that the Symbol of faith which the holy Roman Church makes use of, –as being that principle wherein all who profess the faith of Christ necessarily agree, and that firm and alone foundation against which the gates of hell shall never prevail,– be expressed in the very same words in which it is read in all the churches. Which Symbol is as follows: [...]

https://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/trent/third-session.htm


The idea that "the gates of Hell shall not prevail" is a statement concerning the papacy is pure fantasy.

It's better to stick to the clear, authoritative, and definitive teachings of the Council of Trent and the Vatican Council than to invent contradicting ideas out of thin air.

@forlorn

I have mentioned Daniel 9,27 in the opening post. Since you are stubborn, lazy, and verloren, I look it up and put it right in front of your nose:
Source: drbo.org

to the consummation, and to the end says the prophet.

As you can see: the consummation happens before the end.

It is a good idea to follow our Lord and read Daniel, when we see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place.


(The text is about the temple in Jerusalem, destroyed in A.D. 70, not reerected until today.)

What you are doing, is starting with home alonesim, then going through these theological gymnastics in an effort to claim there are no priests and bishops, so as to rationalize home aloneism - all the while claiming that you arrive at your conclusion using "the explanations of the Vatican Council and of Our Lord in Mt 24" - when you are doing no such thing.

The "consummation and the end" obviously means that the end will be complete or absolute. In other words, there will be nothing left. When the consummation of the world happens, the world will not will be partially consumed, it will be entirely consumed, completely gone, no longer in existence because it will have been consumed completely.

It does not mean that the consummation has already begun and the priests and bishops (of all people) were the first to go so as to leave us as orphans, hiding in the dark waiting for, what, the end?       

The cockle and the wheat grow together until the end, when they are separated at the harvest.