Author Topic: UPDATE! Bishop Williamson on the Motu Proprio (Read 5816 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #5 on:** November 27, 2006, 03:37:28 PM »

'Bishop Williamson's Mentevacantist Error'

http://www.traditionalmass.org/articles/article.php?id=86&catname=12

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #6 on:** November 27, 2006, 03:51:17 PM »

Quote

In Hegel's world, anything can contradict anything. Every contradiction is a simply thesis and a synthesis, which needs to be reconciled in the synthesis.

In Bp. Williamson's world, Holy Church can be riddled with contradictions and internal divisions ('official'/'unofficial', Hegelain/Catholic, etc.) - and still be the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church, warts and all.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2006, 03:53:06 PM »

Quote from: Trinity

I assumed that the bishop equated the Vatican with the Bride's enemies. Vatican=official church.

But he insists that these enemies are the very men who possess supreme authority in the Catholic Church.

Dawn · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2006, 04:08:23 PM »

I understood him as meaning the "official Church" like the one that the world thinks is the real Church, headed by the man known as Benedict. The "official" Church that plans to visit the head of the Orthodox church, pray at a mosque, blah blah blah. I believe that Bishop Williams was being a smart-aleck with that remark, that is his dry sense of humor. The real Church, not to be confused with the "official" is hidden and he is well aware of that.

Dawn · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2006, 04:13:16 PM »

Gladius, I see your point thought that he goes so very close to saying the truth of the papacy. Then always stops short. I keep thinking that he is watching how things go with the SSPX and Rome and if Fellay joins them he will head another break and no longer pull punches about what he thinks to be the truth. Still, I feel it would be more honest of him to just say the truth than to couch it in hidden meanings as he does. I really think he is sede.