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Re: Understanding Scripture
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 09:20:56 AM »
Thank you all.

Stubborn - I will look into the Haydock. We typically read the Douay-Rheims and mine does have some explanation but not a lot.

Songbird - I have considered mentioning to him to join here. He is old enough to discuss these sorts of things with other people at this point. 

Nadir - I converted in the early years of my marriage. My husband was a cradle Catholic who went back to the church for a while after we married. We were Baptist when we married. He no longer attends church at all and has not in some time. So I have been the parent who has taken the boys to church, taught them religious instruction at home while we homeschooled, etc. Not ideal, I know, but it is what it is. You do what you have to do. 

He and his brother have always been Catholic, and we have been in tradition since they were six. (I hesitate to say this because people may recognize who I am, not that it matters. But they are twins.)  He and his brother attended catechism classes at church. They were conditionally rebaptized, did First Communion and Confirmation in the traditional rite. They were altar boys for close to eight years and for most of that time haunted the door to see if they could "sub". My younger son insisted he was going to be a priest for many, many years, although that idea seems to have fallen away from him at the moment. (That idea seemed to go about the time he discovered girls.) Both boys played "Mass" growing up more than anything else. Younger son is not going to church either. Both boys went until about a year and a half ago. There were a number of factors that drove them away, some having to actually do with internal issues at church itself. 

FYI: We are surrounded by Protestants, but neither boy has an inclination that direction. Both have clearly stated they make less sense than Catholics. 

Nadir and An Even Seven - We have to sit down and speak about the Corinthians issue further and I will get clarification. I was kind of surprised he had even read it to be honest. He had come home late that night from working at the fire station and said he wanted to talk more later. So we will. He is trying to finish his course work here at home to graduate as well as working, so our times to talk are not always consistent.

Neil Obstat - So, am I understanding this right? (And I may have known this but forgot along the way.) Tongues was really just other languages, not the babbling business that Assembly of God, Pentecostals, and others do at times?  

I suggested to him that he is trying to reason his way back into the church, and he agreed. In fact, he said "Exactly!" Which is fine and dandy, it was how I got there, but I explained to him there are just some things you have to take on faith. 

Thank you again, all. Sorry for the length. 

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Re: Understanding Scripture
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 12:14:53 PM »
Here is a link  to about a 19 minute long sermon given back in May of 1985 where Fr. Wathen talks about speaking in tongues. He beautifully in brief tells about the beginning happenings of the Church at Pentecost, including the so called "speaking in tongues" - which is actually not so, the truth is that Apostles spoke in their own language, the people understood the Apostles even though the people spoke other tongues.

Anyway, it's worth listening too, even download to your desk top - the part about speaking in tongues begins about 8:47.  


Re: Understanding Scripture
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2017, 02:40:20 AM »
Thank you, Annie, for answering in such detail.

We must pray for your husband to come back to the sincere practice of the Catholic faith. Your relationship with your boys sounds very good.

About tongues: yes, it really is a matter of the preacher speaking his own tongue and somehow God allows the hearer to receive it in his own language. in the 14th century this happened when St Vincent Ferrer spoke his Valencian toungue and was understood by all who heard him in their own native tongue. God does this when He wants to expedite His Word to people who are in dire need.

Re: Understanding Scripture
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2017, 08:06:37 AM »
Here is a link  to about a 19 minute long sermon given back in May of 1985 where Fr. Wathen talks about speaking in tongues. He beautifully in brief tells about the beginning happenings of the Church at Pentecost, including the so called "speaking in tongues" - which is actually not so, the truth is that Apostles spoke in their own language, the people understood the Apostles even though the people spoke other tongues.

Anyway, it's worth listening too, even download to your desk top - the part about speaking in tongues begins about 8:47.  
Oohhhh. Thank you. I will do that.  :)

Re: Understanding Scripture
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2017, 08:14:56 AM »
Thank you, Annie, for answering in such detail.

We must pray for your husband to come back to the sincere practice of the Catholic faith. Your relationship with your boys sounds very good.

About tongues: yes, it really is a matter of the preacher speaking his own tongue and somehow God allows the hearer to receive it in his own language. in the 14th century this happened when St Vincent Ferrer spoke his Valencian toungue and was understood by all who heard him in their own native tongue. God does this when He wants to expedite His Word to people who are in dire need.
Well, I type fast and can be wordy, lol, so I have to be careful not to tell more than people want to hear. 
Yes, I agree about hubby. But he is a tough nut to crack to say the least. 
And yes, the boys and I are close, and they are good kids. Their idea of a good time is spending Friday and Saturday night at the fire station running calls or volunteering at EMS here in our little town. I haven't had a problem with girls (after they both had bad breakups at 16 1/2). We dodged the bullet on drugs and so far on drinking. Both so far have good driving records and a lot of common sense. Praying hard for their return to their faith as well.
Thank you about the tongues. That clears that up. I probably knew that before but forgot.  ::) The brain can just only hold so much.