Author Topic: Twenty-Third Sunday after Pentecost (Read 2596 times)

Hobbledehoy · « **on:** November 03, 2012, 07:37:59 PM »

From The Saint Andrew Daily Missal with Vespers for Sundays and Feasts by Dom Gaspar Lefebvre, O.S.B., of the Abbey of St- André (Bruges, Belgium: Liturgical Apostolate of the Abbey of St-André, 1956), here is the Mass for the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2012, 07:39:55 PM »

Here is a commentary upon the Mass for the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost, taken from the late Cardinal Schuster's The Sacramentary (Liber Sacramentorum): Historical and Liturgical Notes on the Roman Missal (vol. III, trans. Arthur Levelis-Marke; New York: Benziger Brothers, 1927).

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2012, 08:17:47 PM »

From the celebrated work of Dom Prosper Guéranger, Abbot of Solesmes, The Liturgical Year: Time after Pentecost - Book II (trans. Dom Laurence Shepherd; Westminster, MD: The Newman Press, 1949), here is a commentary upon the Mass for the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2012, 08:19:44 PM »

From the great Rev. Father Cornelius J. Ryan's The Epistles of the Sundays and Festivals with an Introduction, Notes and Moral Reflections, (Vol. II; Dublin: M. H. Gill and Son, Ltd., 1932), here is a commentary upon the Epistle lesson for the Mass of the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #4 on:** November 03, 2012, 08:21:41 PM »

From the work of the great scholar Rev. Father Cornelius J. Ryan, The Gospels of the Sundays and Festivals with an Introduction, Parallel Passages, Notes and Moral Reflections (Vol. II; Dublin: Browne and Nolan, Ltd., 1921), here is a commentary upon the Gospel lesson for the Mass of the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #5 on:** November 03, 2012, 09:25:56 PM »

From The Lessons of the Temporal Cycle and the Principle Feasts of the Sanctoral Cycle according to the Monastic Breviary: Compiled and Adapted for the Office of the Brothers of St. Meinrad's Abbey (St. Meinrad, Indiana: St. Meinraid's Abbey, 1943), here is the English translation of the Homily upon the Gospel lesson for the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost, as found in the lessons for the Third Nocturn at Matins.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #6 on:** November 03, 2012, 10:13:35 PM »

Del Misal completo latino-español para uso de los fieles, editado por los sacerdotes Jesuitas Valentín M. Sánchez Ruiz y Eduardo Espert (Madrid: Editorial Apostolado de la Prensa, S. A., 1958), he aquí la Misa del Domingo vigésimo tercero después de Pentecostés, para los católicos de habla hispana.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #7 on:** November 03, 2012, 10:16:51 PM »

From The Dominican Missal in Latin and English (Oxford: Blackfriars Publications, 1948), here is the Mass of the twenty-first Sunday after the Octave of Trinity, which corresponds to the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost in the Roman Missal.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #8 on:** November 03, 2012, 10:19:22 PM »

From The Missal According to the Carmelite Rite in Latin and English for Every Day in the Year (Rome: Vatican Polyglot Press, 1953), here is the Mass of the twenty-second Sunday after Trinity, which corresponds to the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost in the Roman Missal.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #9 on:** November 03, 2012, 10:23:18 PM »

From The Missal According to the Carmelite Rite in Latin and English for Every Day in the Year (Rome: Vatican Polyglot Press, 1953), here is the Preface of the Most Holy Trinity.

htl25 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 04, 2012, 05:22:57 AM »

Hi Hobbledehoy, thanks for putting up the scans of the St Andrew Missal. I really want this same missal and same edition, can you tell me where I can find one?

Or if you want to sell me one, I am willing to pay. I really want one like yours.

I like it how the vestment colours are shown in a box, love the pics too.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #11 on:** November 04, 2012, 05:36:49 PM »

Quote from: htl25

Hi Hobbledehoy, thanks for putting up the scans of the St Andrew Missal. I really want this same missal and same edition, can you tell me where I can find one?

Or if you want to sell me one, I am willing to pay. I really want one like yours.

I like it how the vestment colours are shown in a box, love the pics too.

You're quite welcome!

I do not have spare Missals to offer for sale at this moment, but you may find the edition from which I am scanning and uploading these pages on such sites as eBay, AbeBooks.com, and (above all) Amazon.com.

The important thing is to search for the following keywords in a title search: Andrew Missal Vespers. The publication date must range between 1956-1958, some published in 1958 and 1959 have an entirely different format and different illustrations, but I do recommend them nonetheless. Sometimes it helps to not have the search limited by publishing date, so that you may stumble upon a desired edition that was not properly listed. In this case, you must inquire for the precise publishing year before you purchase the tome in question.

If you wish for the beautiful Cramer woodcuts, you must ask the bookseller before ordering the tome.

Hope these tips help!

God bless!

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #12 on:** November 04, 2012, 05:39:10 PM »

From the tome Messale Ambrosiano (Milan: Pia Società S. Paolo, 1954), here is the Mass for the second Sunday after the Dedication, which this year corresponds to the twenty-third Sunday after Pentecost in the Roman Missal.

htl25 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 06, 2012, 06:05:52 AM »

Hi again Hobbledehoy,

I was wondering if you could tell me if the following missals is the one you have. It is on ebay and the seller cannot tell if it contains vespers or not. What does your cover look like? Does it look anything like this?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221038237905?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

how about this one on abebooks:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=6337874971&searchurl=bsi%3D30%26tn%3Dandrew%2Bmissal

Sorry to bother you about this again, I am just really desperate for one.
Thanks.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #14 on:** November 06, 2012, 08:34:24 PM »

Quote from: htl25

Hi again Hobbledehoy,

I was wondering if you could tell me if the following missals is the one you have. It is on ebay and the seller cannot tell if it contains vespers or not. What does your cover look like? Does it look anything like this?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221038237905?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

how about this one on abebooks:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=6337874971&searchurl=bsi%3D30%26tn%3Dandrew%2Bmissal

Sorry to bother you about this again, I am just really desperate for one.
Thanks.

Hello!

Not a bother at all: let's see here...

Neither of those seem to be the edition for which you are searching.

The first link is the popular version of the St. Andrew Missal that does not have all the texts in Latin-English, neither does it have Vespers. Now you know one hint: if it has a cover like that one, it is not the St. Andrew Missal from whence the scans are procured and presented here on CathInfo (and only on CathInfo).

The second link describes a tome that has too few pages for it to be the desired edition, for mine has about 1,800 pages, not counting the Supplement (for Great Britain) which brings up the page tally to 1,962. There is an euchological appendix (109 pages) containing the texts for the Sacraments, Benediction, Litanies, and other devotions and prayers, and a Kyriale (162 pages).

There are similar edition which have different Supplements (for the USA, Canada, various Religious Orders, &c.). The American and Canadian supplements I have are from a later and quite different edition of the St. Andrew Missal (1959), which has all that the edition containing the British supplement has except for: the Cramer woodcuts (replaced by other illustrations, which are aesthetically inferior to the beautiful woodcuts, but that is merely my opinion), the explanations (replaced by abbreviated ones that do not touch upon the Breviary Lessons but have a nice little Scriptural topical concordance which is quite excellent), and the English translation of the Collects and the Ordinary of the Mass (the "You-Your" English (which doesn't bother me at all, because the Latin text is there).

One benefit of these later editions of the St. Andrew Daily Missal with Vespers shall be seen this coming Sunday, when the twenty-fourth Sunday after Pentecost takes on the Collects and lessons from the Mass of the fifth Sunday after Epiphany. Much less page maneuvering, as shall be seen later this week.

Remember: only on CathInfo can you find the pages of the St. Andrew Missal and of various other rare tomes and commentaries that are out of print and rare nowadays. Why go anywhere else for your liturgical needs?

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