Author Topic: Traditional Powers of the Priesthood absent in novus ordo ordinations (Read 10364 times)

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #35 on:** July 14, 2022, 04:33:55 PM »

Quote from: epiphany on July 14, 2022, 04:31:27 PM

Not true. In some orders, priests are given authority to ordain.

Sorry... Are you saying a priest can ordain a priest? Or are you talking about the minor orders?

I apologize for not being specific about the difference in regards to that. Priests often have been given authority to give minor orders. 😅

Yeti · « **Reply #36 on:** July 14, 2022, 04:46:58 PM »

Quote from: epiphany on July 14, 2022, 04:30:06 PM

Only Rome has the authority to approve an annulment. Once given, it must be accepted.

First of all, this is your opinion and you cannot bind the consciences of others by it. On the contrary, what I said about the sacrament of matrimony is the teaching of the Church, which is taught by the authority of Rome, and that must be accepted.

Secondly, while this might be a logical statement from a mainstream Novus Ordo practitioner, it makes no sense being used by a traditional Catholic whose religion involves rejecting countless things currently coming from Rome.

epiphany · « **Reply #37 on:** July 14, 2022, 04:53:28 PM »

Quote from: Yeti on July 14, 2022, 04:46:58 PM

First of all, this is your opinion and you cannot bind the consciences of others by it. On the contrary, what I said about the sacrament of matrimony is the teaching of the Church, which is taught by the authority of Rome, and that must be accepted.

Secondly, while this might be a logical statement from a mainstream Novus Ordo practitioner, it makes no sense being used by a traditional Catholic whose religion involves rejecting countless things currently coming from Rome.

I cannot bind others to anything.
The Church is the only valid authority to approve an annulment.

Traditional Catholics must reject what should be rejected and accept what must be accepted.

epiphany · « **Reply #38 on:** July 14, 2022, 05:00:50 PM »

Quote from: AMDGJMJ on July 14, 2022, 04:33:55 PM

Sorry... Are you saying a priest can ordain a priest? Or are you talking about the minor orders?

I apologize for not being specific about the difference in regards to that. Priests often have been given authority to give minor orders. 😅

A priest may be the extraordinary minister of minor or major orders with papal dispensation.

Yeti · « **Reply #39 on:** July 14, 2022, 05:01:38 PM »

Quote from: epiphany on July 14, 2022, 04:53:28 PM

I cannot bind others to anything.
The Church is the only valid authority to approve an annulment.

Traditional Catholics must reject what should be rejected and accept what must be accepted.

Agreed. The new practices related to marriage annulments must be rejected.

The bond must be considered valid unless the contrary is proven. But a statement from a modernist cannot prove the marriage bond is invalid. Therefore it must be considered valid.

Why would we reject the New Mass and accept the new marriage annulments? This makes no sense.

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