[Giovanni Berto]

They have some interesting resources, but their greatest merit is that they are funny.

[Pax Vobis]

1962 - John XXIII: Apostolic Roman Canon of Mass (dogmatically not to be touched) changed

There's a WHOLE host of things about the 1962 missal that people get wrong:

1.  Pius XII ordered and started the process of the 1962 missal.  John23 simply 'approved' the final edition.
2.  The addition of 'St Joseph' to the canon was not part of the John23-approved, original edition.
3.  The addition of 'St Joseph' happened in revised editions, which were approved by liturgical committees.
4.  I'm not even sure if the removal of the 2nd confiteor (and other changes to the daily mass) were part of the original/Pius XII edition.

Conclusion:  The original edition of the 1962 missal is perfectly fine.  It is 100% consistent with all previous, Tridentine missals, going back to Pope St Pius V.

p.s. Obviously the Holy Week changes aren't good, but they don't affect the Mass.  And the changes aren't V2-level sacrilegious or sinful.

[Ladislaus]

I like this idea, if Matthew is OK with it and it isn't making more work for him.  I'd like to see a thread of its own for brainstorming on it, so it doesn't get lost here in the Traditio discussion.

Yeah, and I think we could keep it "live" and updated.  So, for instance, when Father Carley was having health problems and Mass schedule was a mess, as was the priest attending, I posted updates within a thread, but if we had stuff in a central place where designated individuals (those who attend the different chapels) could keep them up to date, I think we'd have a real winner.  Maybe some kind of Wiki page that people could edit (though we'd have to limit it to trusted members so that trolls wouldn't get in there and mess with it).

[Ladislaus]

They have some interesting resources, but their greatest merit is that they are funny.

So, yeah, that's the thing about them (actually, him ... it's one "priest" of unknown and some say dubious Orders), where you can't tell if they're serious or just joking or engaging in hyperbole.  So, for instance, even their "half Novus Ordo" for the 1962 Tridentine Mass they could very well be engaging in conscious hyperbole for the sake of humor.  It's so hard to say.  And perhaps their reference to Traditio Fathers (plural) is also a joke, since I've written "them" before, and I'm pretty sure it's a single "Father".

[SimpleMan]

They still have the best directory of Latin Masses out there.  They include SSPX and Motu ... just put an angry frown face emoticon next to those.  Some of their info seems out of date though.  But each individual group has lists, whereas this puts it all in one place in case you're not dogmatically wedded to any particular faction, are traveling, and just need to find a Catholic Mass

My biggest issue with them is their constant reference to the 1962 Tridentine Mass as "half Novus Ordo" ... which is preposterous.

I think, though, that some of their material might be deliberate hyperbole and comes across as possibly intended to be humorous.

I'm actually thinking we here could do better with a directory, adding detail like whether they're pre-1955, also adding a cross-reference to priests, who they were ordained by, and the theological position of the group they're with.  We could even add Eastern Rite churches.

What you propose would be basically Radko Jansky's directory redux.  It's a good idea.

It was pretty much any Mass that wasn't a Novus Ordo Mass.  It was a valuable resource, typed and photocopied in the days before online Internet publishing.