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« on: April 19, 2009, 01:05:42 AM »
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  • How is it that in Trad-websites the words "Jesus" or "Christ" are so inferquent? why are they so obsessed with Mary Antoinette and French Monarchy, not with our Lord? it is a sad truth but I must admit that whenever I go to any website, the sure means to see whether it is catholic or not is this: If it speaks a lot about Jesus and his life, it is protestant.
    Why is it so?
    I hate protestantism, WE must be Christ centered not they.


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    « Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 12:28:50 PM »
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  • I am not sure what you mean. Unlike protestants and other schismatic groups, we have a rich tradition and history filled with Saints and historical figures and battles which give us inspiration to continue to fight our own very real battle in the modern era. They talk about King Louis 16th and his wife becauswe theya re probably saints and were killed by revolutionaries for their Catholic faith. These are the same revolutionaries that may kill us for our Catholic faith if God allows it. The above execution of the two monarch of France was the true beggining of the satanic chaos that engulf our secular world. The kings of France where known as The "lieutenant's" of God in the Secular order. France was the first daughter of the Church and her people specifically her king had a special spiritual and temporal duty to defend the Catholic Church against her temporal enemies.

    The Church lost her "temporal" protection when the French king was killed. That is why the prophesies of the Great Monarch hold such meaning for us Catholics because they say that in the coming age of Mary that France lead by her Holy King and Emperor will defeat the enemies of the Church and the world will be given a generation of peace like none other seen before for "One GENERATION" before the antiChrist.

    We are living in the last days of the "fifth" age of men. The coming age is the "sixth" age or age of Mary. The seventh age of men will be forever because it comes after the last judgment.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 12:31:00 PM »
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  • Please exzcuse my typos and poor grammar as I am on some heavy medication.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 12:33:24 PM »
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  • Gladius and I have spoken etensively on this topic. Gladius, if I left anything of import out please add to the discussion.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 12:47:01 PM »
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  • my question is: why do protestants speak more about Jesus, than catholics?


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    « Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 12:47:31 PM »
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  • my question is: why do protestants speak more that us about Jesus?

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    « Reply #6 on: April 19, 2009, 12:54:26 PM »
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  • They have nothing else to speak about so they constantly mention his name as some sort of magic talisman. I am not so usre they speak of him ore than we do. We have Saints and Our Lady that we pray to as intercessors to Jesus for us.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 19, 2009, 12:55:27 PM »
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  • They do not have our rich history, theology, and tradition to speak about because they lost those things when they broke away from Holy Mother Church.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 02:15:18 PM »
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  • I have acquintance that are Protestant. I have never heard that male talk of Christ  at all, period. His wife is a different in that she mentions asking Jesus for help during trouble. They say his name, that is all. They do not truly realize that He is Christ and the Second person of the Blessed Trinity, therefore He is God.
    They have what protestants call a "personal relationship" with Jesus. That means they have stripped him of all Supernatural and brought him down to their level. The mention His Holy name but do not believe in it's power. I even mentioned that one time to them. The Most Holy Name of Jesus has power to conquer evil. They thought I was nuts.
    Remember Jesus himself said something about just because you call me does not mean I know who you are.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 05:33:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: Dawn
    I have acquintance that are Protestant. I have never heard that male talk of Christ  at all, period. His wife is a different in that she mentions asking Jesus for help during trouble. They say his name, that is all. They do not truly realize that He is Christ and the Second person of the Blessed Trinity, therefore He is God.
    They have what protestants call a "personal relationship" with Jesus. That means they have stripped him of all Supernatural and brought him down to their level. The mention His Holy name but do not believe in it's power. I even mentioned that one time to them. The Most Holy Name of Jesus has power to conquer evil. They thought I was nuts.
    Remember Jesus himself said something about just because you call me does not mean I know who you are.


    I agree with you, Dawn. Today, my priest talked about the Incarnation in his catechism in the morning, and then later he talked about the virtue of faith in our Lord in his sermon at Mass. The Protestants (as well as the Modernists) have emptied much of the substance concerning our Lord Jesus Christ. I see how the theme of the virtue of faith is indeed appropriate for Low Sunday because newly baptized Catholics in the early Church would have needed after the first week of being Catholic to be reminded of the necessity of having faith in Christ and to be admonished to be strong in their newly found faith.
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    « Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 05:34:45 PM »
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  • Oh, yes, I remember my priest also mentioning this morning in his sermon about the silly idea of "too much Jesus." Whatever that means!
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)


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    « Reply #11 on: April 19, 2009, 05:35:13 PM »
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  • I don't frequent this forum a lot, but when I do, it's mostly about the hijacking of the vatican more than anything, and occasionally I comment on secular issues.

    I'm on a different forum and argue with fundies all the time. All most of them do is copy and paste things, regurgitated from other websites, and I use biblical references a lot when I refute their nonsensical arguments, and Christ is mentioned a lot.

    But, here, as Catholics, we agree on the Faith. So perhaps Christ isn't brought up as much as on some forum where there are not a lot of semantic arguments.

    I hope that's helpful to you.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #12 on: April 19, 2009, 07:16:53 PM »
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  • Good points. Listen, I tell people you do not even blink your eyes without Christ telling them to blink. Faith in Christ, every even in history revolves around one thing, Christ. The events preparing the world for His Birth, Death and Resurrection, and now the world preparing for His coming again. So, then we point to major happenings in the world that are setting the stage for both occurences.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 19, 2009, 11:20:25 PM »
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    I have acquintance that are Protestant. I have never heard that male talk of Christ  at all, period. His wife is a different in that she mentions asking Jesus for help during trouble. They say his name, that is all. They do not truly realize that He is Christ and the Second person of the Blessed Trinity, therefore He is God.
    They have what protestants call a "personal relationship" with Jesus. That means they have stripped him of all Supernatural and brought him down to their level. The mention His Holy name but do not believe in it's power. I even mentioned that one time to them. The Most Holy Name of Jesus has power to conquer evil. They thought I was nuts.
    Remember Jesus himself said something about just because you call me does not mean I know who you are.


    prots always speak about giving their heart to Jesus, inviting him to their lives and letting him decide for them. in a catholic website it was written that personal relationship with Jesus is sth absurd.I am so sorry for being so silly, (some of you are surely annoyed) but I don't understand the whole thing.

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    « Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 12:16:33 AM »
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    I have acquintance that are Protestant. I have never heard that male talk of Christ  at all, period. His wife is a different in that she mentions asking Jesus for help during trouble. They say his name, that is all. They do not truly realize that He is Christ and the Second person of the Blessed Trinity, therefore He is God.
    They have what protestants call a "personal relationship" with Jesus. That means they have stripped him of all Supernatural and brought him down to their level. The mention His Holy name but do not believe in it's power. I even mentioned that one time to them. The Most Holy Name of Jesus has power to conquer evil. They thought I was nuts.
    Remember Jesus himself said something about just because you call me does not mean I know who you are.


    prots always speak about giving their heart to Jesus, inviting him to their lives and letting him decide for them. in a catholic website it was written that personal relationship with Jesus is sth absurd.I am so sorry for being so silly, (some of you are surely annoyed) but I don't understand the whole thing.


    Was that website with the personal relationship of Christ a novus ordo website? If so, I can see why. They're not Catholic.

    As Catholics, we have the most intimate relationship with Christ. We receive His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity in the Blessed Sacrament, something that is foreign to every other religion that professes love for Christ.

    Saint Paul says clearly in his epistle to the Ephesians:

    I therefore, a prisoner in the Lord, beseech you that you walk worthy of the vocation in which you are called, With all humility and mildness, with patience, supporting one another in charity. Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. One body and one Spirit; as you are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, one baptism.

    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,