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Offline John Grace

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« on: April 12, 2012, 03:18:00 PM »
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  • I feel obliged to come out of 'retirement' but I am praying for Third Order members. I took advice several years ago and was advised not to become a third order.I just read this thread on Ignis. My sincere prayers as people will have to make a decision. Those who follow Rome will have sold the Archbishop down the river and have betrayed Tradition. Faithful in Ireland can't wait to confront Bishop Fellay over his treatment of Bishop Williamson. Catholics have to take a stand. I'm rather cynical of Bishop Fellay. He is putting good priests in very awkward positions with their congregation.

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    My question is how do I become and un-Third Order member of the SSPX?

    Even if Rome says that +Fellay's final "clarification" is now acceptable to Rome and Rome officially recognizes the SSPX, who is ever going to know just what +Fellay said exactly to Rome in all these "clarifications" in order to get them to agree that we are now acceptable?

    I suppose we can look forward to +Fellay singing the Te Deum and declaring such an outcome to be a miracle of God, but I am not braced to accept that.

    No one will ever convince me that in order to achieve such an end of a Roman acceptance of the SSPX, (if that is indeed the outcome, which it certainly is shaping up to look that way, as early reports are saying it looks like a done deal. That is not absolute of course but that is the word floating about.)that +Fellay did not have to compromise the Truth or twist it until it was so deformed that it was finally acceptable to Rome.

    The faithful will more than likely never know for sure, because everything has been done in secret and undoubtedly will remain that way.

    Maybe I'm being hyper-critical, or possibly just too cautious but such an outcome simply would not add up in my mind as being a victory for Christ or that Rome has returned to their Catholic senses.



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    « Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 03:28:39 PM »
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  • I feel sorry for those who feel betrayed by Bishop Fellay, Fr Lorans, Fr Pfluger and other ambitious clerics. Our Divine Lord and Archbishop Lefebvre  had no such ambitions. Was our Divine Lord or St Joseph in the workshop in Nazareth or Pope St. Pius X like this? No. Let them have their 'deal' with Rome.We will see where the SSPX is after it. The Society will be finished.I feel very strongly on it and oppose a sell out.The approach Bishop F is taking of doing good 'within' is naive and a compromise.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 03:35:57 PM »
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  • Though I wish it was another bishop as SG of the SSPX right now as well, lets wait to see what happens, before we work ourselves up over something which may not happen.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 03:38:21 PM »
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    Though I wish it was another bishop as SG of the SSPX right now as well, lets wait to see what happens, before we work ourselves up over something which may not happen.


    It was put to the Society priests in Ireland that vast majority priests and faithful oppose Bishop Fellay. He presses ahead as do a few other clerics. One of these has brought Max Krah into heart of SSPX affairs. I certainly question the judgement of those who hired him or was it deliberate. It's a scandal.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 03:40:55 PM »
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    Though I wish it was another bishop as SG of the SSPX right now as well, lets wait to see what happens, before we work ourselves up over something which may not happen.


    Increase our prayers for certain.
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    « Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 03:42:30 PM »
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  • I am glad you decided to return, John Grace!

    I agree with you regarding the SSPX selling out. It would not be good.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 03:45:09 PM »
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    I am glad you decided to return, John Grace!

    I agree with you regarding the SSPX selling out. It would not be good.


    I certainly won't allow that Krah or his ilk to divide Catholics. I have a word for him and Fr Pfluger but shan't repeat on the forum.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 03:52:23 PM »
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  • But on a serious note, I do feel prayer is necessary regarding coming days.
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    « Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 05:09:02 PM »
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    To the 3rd Order Members of the SSPX....

    There is no such thing as a third order without a first and second order. The SSPX is a pious union equivalent to the Children of Mary. It cannot possibly have a third order. The creation of this illegitimate third order obscures the true meaning of a real, traditional third order, which is a true religious order. The SSPX is not a religious order.

    Do I have to give a quote to back this up? I don't mind.



    You and many of your sedevacantist ilk are just jealous that the SSPX is a legitimate branch of the Catholic tree, approved by official Church authorities right at the beginning of the Catholic resistance to Vatican II.

    The SSPX might be a mere pious union in the scheme of things, but your chapel is completely unofficial and illegitimate.

    You wish your sede organization had been approved by legitimate agents of Christ's One True Church before things went sour.

    So you can look down all you want -- I look down even more at your illegitimate sede organization.

    It's one of the biggest reasons I attend the SSPX -- it's a lifeboat put there BY CHURCH AUTHORITIES by the same people that constructed the ship (the Catholic Church).

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    « Reply #9 on: April 12, 2012, 06:24:25 PM »
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  • If one joins the 3rd Order of say the Benedictines while a layperson, does that prevent one from later entering the Benedictine order as a novice?



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    « Reply #10 on: November 16, 2016, 10:42:03 AM »
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  • Fr. Angelico, O.P., organizes the U.S. branch of the Third Order Dominicans associated with the Dominicans of Avrillé: http://www.dominicansavrille.us/

    See the resources for joining here as well as Fr. Joret, O.P.'s 1937 book Dominican Life on how to live the life of a Third Order Dominican.

    Any SSPX priest would be able to enroll you.
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    « Reply #11 on: November 25, 2016, 03:12:18 PM »
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  • Fr. Albert, O.P., also runs a Dominican Third Order within the SSPX:
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    http://sspx.org/en/dominican-third-order
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