I have struggled with the understanding, for a very long time now, of the relationship between God the Father and God the Son. Part of this struggle has been because of the scriptural fact that the Son is not as great as the Father. After all, if they are the same being then how could one be greater than the other? But it may have just dawned on me...

This MAN who we know to be Jesus Christ...who had an individual soul like everyone else must have been controlled by the Father 100% of the time. Would not His very being be the same because of His every action reflecting that of the Father's?

If you think about it...it must be our individual free will that determines each and everyone one of our identities. But Christ did not have this individual free will. His actions and words were (and still are) completely controlled by the Father...thus His identity is one with the Father.

I would not doubt if this has been thought about before, but this is what I have been thinking. I hope I am not wrong.

Another good source is the Athanasian Creed. St Athanasius preached against the Arians who were the main heretics of his day. Here again, don't just read it fast. I recommend that you take the time to meditate on what Athanasius says.

 Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost Uncreate. The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the Holy Ghost Eternal and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal. As also there are not Three Uncreated, nor Three Incomprehensibles, but One Uncreated, and One Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not Three Almighties but One Almighty.
So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord. For, like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to say, there be Three Gods or Three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father, and of the Son neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting Salvation, that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man.

God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the substance of His mother, born into the world. Perfect God and Perfect Man, of a reasonable Soul and human Flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His Manhood. Who, although He be God and Man, yet He is not two, but One Christ. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into Flesh, but by taking of the Manhood into God. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by Unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one Man, so God and Man is one Christ. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into Hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into Heaven, He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02033b.htm

When sacred theology presumes to speak about that greatest of mysteries, the truth of God's own Triune Being and Nature, it must first of all do so prayerfully and reverently; secondly, we must always express these mysteries in those terms Tradition has consecrated and handed down, that God is one Essence in Three Divine Persons, as the sacred liturgy puts it, "in confessione verae, sempiternaeque Deitatis, et in personis proprietas, et in essentia unitas, et in majestate adoretur aequalitas" (in confessing the truth of the eternal Godhead, Unity in Essence, Distinction of Person and Equality of Majesty is to be adored"). Likewise, the Athanasian Creed is a most beautiful and exact statement of the Catholic Faith we would all do well to commit to memory and prayerfully recite whenever we can. The terms it uses are precise and exact, as is necessary in a matter of such importance.

There is only one distinction between the Three Persons - a distinction of mutual relations between Them - the Holy Trinity is an eternal communion of Life and Love, The Son of God generated of the Father alone is as His very life Whom He conceives in contemplating Himself, the Spirit of God who proceeds from the Father and the Son is as the love of the Father eternally reposing in the beloved Son and coming forth consubstantially from Both. Thus, we say the Son proceeds from the Father, but the Father is not in any way from the Son; likewise, that the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, but the Father and the Son are not from the Spirit, thus there most certainly is distinction of Person in the Godhead, which the heresy of Sabellianism denied. In every other way, the Three Persons are absolutely One, equal in Majesty, inseparable in Glory, indivisible in Essence.

That Almighty God is a Trinity, the Angelic Doctor explains, following St. Augustine and the ancient Fathers, we may gain some small understanding of by considering two points, first that He is Pure Act, and second, that He is Love in His very substance. Fr. Garrigou Lagrange explains this very well (excerpts of his work can be found online at http://www.thesumma.info/index.php), I will post some of it here for you or explain in greater detail if you like, but Infinite Faith, before going forward in personal speculations, may I recommend you read what St. Thomas in the Summa Theologica (online here http://newadvent.org/summa/1027.htm) has to say about this subject? Reading the Summa and the thought and teaching of the Angelic Doctor is critical to thinking with the mind of the Church. Whenever we read the texts of Sacred Scripture, we should study them always in light of the teaching of the Church, who alone is authorized by Christ to interpret His Word and speak about God.

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This MAN who we know to be Jesus Christ...who had an individual soul like everyone else must have been controlled by the Father 100% of the time. Would not His very being be the same because of His every action reflecting that of the Father's?

..... But Christ did not have this individual free will. His actions and words were (and still are) completely controlled by the Father...thus His identity is one with the Father.

I would not doubt if this has been thought about before, but this is what I have been thinking. I hope I am not wrong.

IF, where are these ideas of yours coming from? How can a son have the same identity as his father? Here I am asking about any human father and son.

It is simply not rational to believe that the Father has the same identity as His Son, Jesus.

Jesus tells us that He came down from heaven not to do His own Will but the Will of His Father.
This shows that Jesus had His own Will.

Also the title of the thread is the Trinity. The Trinity is three persons, not two.

What has led you to think that the Father "controls" the Son and that Jesus has no Will of His own? I am puzzled. Can you explain yourself, please?

The thought just dawned on me.

Am I wrong?

Are they not the same being which is God?

Also remember that in order to be guilty of the sin of heresy you must meet the requirements of mortal sin. I posted these thoughts of mine to get feedback from others. If I am shown to be wrong then I will admit to it. Yes I agree with the teachings of the Church even if I do not understand it completely.

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This MAN who we know to be Jesus Christ...who had an individual soul like everyone else must have been controlled by the Father 100% of the time. Would not His very being be the same because of His every action reflecting that of the Father's?

My Father, if it be possible, let this chalice pass from me. Nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. - Matt 26:39

So Christ did have free will is what you are saying. I was wrong for saying that He didnt then.

The story of St. Augustine and the boy with the seashell: http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/h065rp.Shell.html

So then maybe the Father placed thoughts into His head 100% of the time and He chose to act on them 100% of the time.

iF, wrong again; please, please, please, take TKGS' advice, and stop your silly speculation. It will not bring you to the Truth.