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Offline Cryptinox

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Why does the Holy Ghost come down upon schismatic services?
« on: September 18, 2020, 05:06:20 PM »
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  • I know that the consecrations of the Eucharist done outside the Church are valid but I wonder why God chooses to send the Holy Ghost upon the Gifts. I can understajd the reasoning behind an ortho liturgy since babies commune and they get grace from Communion but I am curious to why God would send the Paraclete down on the Gifts done during a gnostic or black mass with no infants present.

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    Re: Why does the Holy Ghost come down upon schismatic services?
    « Reply #1 on: September 18, 2020, 07:45:47 PM »
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  • Because of the power of the priesthood.


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    Re: Why does the Holy Ghost come down upon schismatic services?
    « Reply #2 on: September 18, 2020, 07:57:21 PM »
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  • Because they are validly ordained and valid ordinations leave an indelible mark on one's soul that not even apostasy or schism can erase. 

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    Re: Why does the Holy Ghost come down upon schismatic services?
    « Reply #3 on: September 18, 2020, 08:30:45 PM »
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  • I know that the consecrations of the Eucharist done outside the Church are valid but I wonder why God chooses to send the Holy Ghost upon the Gifts. I can understajd the reasoning behind an ortho liturgy since babies commune and they get grace from Communion but I am curious to why God would send the Paraclete down on the Gifts done during a gnostic or black mass with no infants present.
    Wow!  I had never thought of that before.  Point well made.

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    Re: Why does the Holy Ghost come down upon schismatic services?
    « Reply #4 on: September 19, 2020, 05:07:46 AM »
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  • It's been a while and if I ever come across it again I will post it, but I'm pretty sure that in one of his talks, Fr. Hesse explains why the consecration is invalid and does not happen during a black mass, even when done according to the rubrics by a valid priest.   
    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man." - Fr. Hesse


     

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