Author Topic: The right way to celebrate the Novus Ordo? (Read 4174 times)

Jitpring · « **on:** April 11, 2011, 10:40:57 AM »

I maintain that such isn't possible, that just as there's no right way to commit abortions, there's no "right way" to perpetrate the Novus Ordo. Am I wrong?

Stubborn · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2011, 10:56:04 AM »

They don't "celebrate" the NO service, they "say" the NO service.

The only "right way to celebrate the NO" is to have a big party in it's memory after it's flushed back down from whence it came.............personally, I most likely still would not even participate with that celebration.

TKGS · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2011, 02:36:31 PM »

Asking this is like asking about the "right way" to celebrate an Anglican service, a Lutheran service, and Evangelical revival, a Muslim service, a Synogogue service, etc., etc., etc.

The question has no meaning.

Jehanne · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2011, 07:15:54 PM »

Quote from: Jitpring

I maintain that such isn't possible, that just as there's no right way to commit abortions, there's no "right way" to perpetrate the Novus Ordo. Am I wrong?

No. At best, it's doubtful; at worst, sacrilege.

Sigismund · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2011, 08:22:09 PM »

The right way to celebrate the Novus Ordo is the same right way one celebrates any rite of the Church. Reverently and according to the rubrics.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:57:44 AM »

Here is the proper way...

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2011, 07:55:28 AM »

If you know of any Church official which condemned this Mass for liturgical abuse, let me know. Until then the authorities have apparently sent the message this is an acceptable liturgy in the NO.

Stubborn · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2011, 08:01:22 AM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Here is the proper way...

Some may say, you are identifying the abuses with the "New Mass" itself. I am saying that the "New Mass" IS the abuse of the True Mass! I am saying that, with the jettisoning of both the law and the spirit of Quo Primum, by that very Act, the Pope has not only substituted something totally different from the Mass, but that it is of the very essence of the "New Mass" to permit every form of profanation, because the "New Mass" makes the good pleasure of the people its "liturgy." - Fr. Wathen

Jitpring · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2011, 10:43:14 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Quote from: stevusmagnus
Here is the proper way...

I am saying that the "New Mass" IS the abuse of the True Mass! - Fr. Wathen

That's a good quote. My position is that the Novus Ordo, no matter how "reverently" done, is itself an abuse, as it's a choice to give God less glory.

Matthew · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2011, 10:51:07 AM »

Here's the right way to say a Novus Ordo Mass:

1. Take the Missale Romanum, and gently close it.
2. Take out a Missale Romanum from 1962 or earlier.
3. Say Mass as per the rubrics and customs in 1962.

Jitpring · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2011, 10:54:49 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Here's the right way to say a Novus Ordo Mass:

1. Take the Missale Romanum, and gently close it.
2. Take out a Missale Romanum from 1962 or earlier.
3. Say Mass as per the rubrics and customs in 1962.

Yes!

By the way, I just bought three books on amazon, but forgot to go through this site. I meant to get you some commish. Darno. Next time....

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2011, 11:04:04 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Quote from: stevusmagnus
Here is the proper way...

Some may say, you are identifying the abuses with the "New Mass" itself. I am saying that the "New Mass" IS the abuse of the True Mass! I am saying that, with the jettisoning of both the law and the spirit of Quo Primum, by that very Act, the Pope has not only substituted something totally different from the Mass, but that it is of the very essence of the "New Mass" to permit every form of profanation, because the "New Mass" makes the good pleasure of the people its "liturgy." - Fr. Wathen

One schizophrenic mod at AQ banned a guy for quoting from Fr. Wathen's book!

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2011, 08:36:53 PM »

The NO is a Protestant service with a little Catholicism thrown in. As ABL said, even when said with respect for the liturgical rules, it borders on Protestantism and is a poison to souls.

Zenith · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2011, 09:23:31 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

If you know of any Church official which condemned this Mass for liturgical abuse, let me know. Until then the authorities have apparently sent the message this is an acceptable liturgy in the NO.

The authorities have apparently sent the message that it is acceptable to pray with heretics, pray in the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, to cremate the dead, to teach modernism from the pulpit, not to convert Jєωs of pray for them, etc...

Does this mean that they are all fine? Do you attend the Traditional Mass and if yes, why?

If it is an "acceptable liturgy" then do you attend it?

Mysterium Fidei · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2011, 04:10:21 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

Asking this is like asking about the "right way" to celebrate an Anglican service, a Lutheran service, and Evangelical revival, a Muslim service, a Synogogue service, etc., etc., etc.

The question has no meaning.

This is my sentiments exactly. The question has no meaning to me.

What is the right way to celebrate a Novus Ordo “Mass”?

Apparently there is no “right” way, but that is their business as I believe it to be a different religion than Catholicism.

So it’s like asking if I care about the terrible liturgical abuse in the Anglican or Lutheran religion.

No, not really. That is the problem of the Anglicans or Lutherans and not of Catholics.

Let the dead bury the dead.