Author Topic: The Riches of the Byzantine Liturgy (Read 8643 times)

Hobbledehoy · « **on:** July 24, 2011, 09:11:39 PM »

Hello everyone!

As I had written some posts ago, according as I am allowed by the exigencies of my present duties and those of any future contingencies that may befall me, I shall try to upload scans from the exceedingly precious and rare Byzantine Missal for Sundays and Feast Days with Rites of Sacraments, and Various Offices and Prayers published at Birmingham, Alabama, by St. George's R. C. Byzantine Church in 1958, (having been printed at Tournai, Belgium, by Société Saint Jean l' Evangéliste, Desclée & Cie).

Hopefully these pages will serve to make you realize what great wealth is possessed by Holy Mother Church, riches which extend beyond the Roman Rite.

Stay tuned and happy reading! :reading:

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #1 on:** July 24, 2011, 09:17:54 PM »

I shall first begin by presenting a very nifty glossary that is given as an appendix in the above-mentioned Byzantine Missal.

This will be a great resource for students of comparative liturgiology and in order to understand all the better the tome itself.

Happy reading! :reading:

Sigismund · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2011, 11:41:14 AM »

Fascinating!

As I have mentioned, my wife was Byzantine, and one of my sons is a Byzantine priest. Assisting at the Divine Liturgy has been a great joy for me.

s2srea · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2011, 02:12:36 PM »

I think it would be best if the person placing the "thumbs down" would be able to explain why he/she did so.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #4 on:** July 25, 2011, 03:02:39 PM »

Wow, someone out there really dislikes the Byzantine Rite, 'cos even Sigismund got a thumbs down. Quite sad...

Sigismund, you get a thumbs up to compensate for that...

:farmer:

Sigismund · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:29:20 PM »

Well, thank you. I thought perhaps it might just be me, since I made a comment on another thread earlier today which I expect annoyed a number of people. I see I have acquired one person ignoring me. It hardly seems fair to take this out on an entire Rite, though. For good measure. I just liked all the Byzantine stuff on this thread, and will do so with new posts as well. Man, how can anyone who has been to it not love the Byzantine liturgy?

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:47:14 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

I thought perhaps it might just be me, since I made a comment on another thread earlier today which I expect annoyed a number of people. I see I have acquired one person ignoring me. It hardly seems fair to take this out on an entire Rite, though.

Well perhaps it is personal, either against you or me, probably the latter. I remember exactly where the first three dislikes were given and I have a fair idea of who were the two members behind it, but I cannot figure out why one would dislike the Byzantine Missal scans. I mean, no one is obliged to peruse them, or download them, and they can use the ignore feature if they wish to do so.

Quote from: s2srea

I think it would be best if the person placing the "thumbs down" would be able to explain why he/she did so.

Whoever you are, either anonymous lurker or regular poster, show thyself and prove thy mettle, however...

Quote

Whether "aye" or "nay" be the answer given,
Do not thou fear or fret, for all's forgiven,
And be of good cheer
Whilst drinking a beer,
Or, better yet, pray
All the ire away.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:51:51 PM »

Anyways, in order to get back on topic, here are the scans of the Prologue to the Byzantine Missal.

Enjoy! :reading:

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:59:07 PM »

Here is the Introduction to the Byzantine Missal.

Enjoy! :reading:

s2srea · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2011, 11:59:39 AM »

Undoubtedly the Byzantine Rite is beautiful. However, I was once told that if we are born to the Roman Rite, or live in the west, where it is the main Rite, we should not leave it for another rite.

I'm curious if someone else has heard this, or holds this opinion...

MyrnaM · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:31:12 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

Undoubtedly the Byzantine Rite is beautiful. However, I was once told that if we are born to the Roman Rite, or live in the west, where it is the main Rite, we should not leave it for another rite.

I'm curious if someone else has heard this, or holds this opinion...

My Catholic dictionary, if you can read this, see the part about "rite":

s2srea · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2011, 02:07:45 PM »

Thanks Myrna, that was informative :wink:

I'm curious what some would say about attending the Byzantine and our situation in the church today?

Sigismund · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2011, 06:11:29 PM »

My son was ordained in the Byzantine rite, but it did require permission. My wife considered herself Byzantine throughout her life. We freely attended services in both rites.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:28:38 PM »

Happy Feast of St. Anne!

The Byzantines commemorate St. Anne on the 25th of July. Attached are the Propers for the Divine Liturgy.

Enjoy! :reading:

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:31:52 PM »

Interesting tangent: the Benedictines today celebrated both Sts. Joachim and Anne with a proper Office, differing from those found in the Roman Breviary for these great Saints. Attached are the Day Hours of this Office from The Monastic Diurnal, or The Day Hours of the Monastic Breviary: In Latin and English, Edited According to the Reforms of Pope Pius X (H. Dessain: Michelin, Belgium, 1952).

The entire Office is a beautiful, synoptic prelude to the sublime Offices of Advent!

Enjoy! :reading: