Author Topic: The much-RUMORed Universal Indult (Read 986 times)

Matthew · « **on:** January 11, 2007, 10:34:56 PM »

I guess you have to place the emphasis on the RUMOR as you say, "much-rumored universal indult".

Even if the universal indult finally arrived, it wouldn't spell the end of the Crisis. Of course, more grace would start flowing and that would be good. But to end the Crisis, the Church will have to call a council to flush out modernism, etc. and modernism is HARDLY in its death-throes as it stands today! It will certainly not go down without a fight.

Perhaps God might grant the world the Chastisement it needs, to clean up the world and the Church. Not exactly a painless return to the 1950's! I don't think that modernism will go away without a horrible chastisement. What else do you think the Third Secret was about?

I personally am prepared to live out my life in a world where the crisis in the Church is as bad as it is now, or worse.

If something happens to alleviate that, I shall be pleasantly surprised. But I will not get my hopes up. That's how they're going to break a lot of people (or make them snap). Hey, don't look at me! It wouldn't be the first time they got the conservatives/traditionalists' hopes up and then dashed them. More like the fourth or fifth time, at least!

I'll admit that a month or so ago, I disagreed with those who were downplaying this rumor -- because I was thinking, "But mainstream sources have reported it. And they say the Pope has SIGNED it already..." but I'm changing my mind -- I caught myself.

The pope MAY have signed it, but he has to promulgate it for it to do any good. He can write down that the so-called "excommunications" of the 4 SSPX bishops have been lifted, he can declare the Tridentine Mass 'free for any Priest to use', and write a declaration canonizing Abp. Lefebvre -- on a piece of notebook paper on his dresser. But that won't do any good! He has to actually release official docuмents for promulgation for them to take effect.

There are too many bishops and cardinals against it. If he DOES release the Universal Indult, it will only be with something to appease the progressives/modernists, as a sort of compensation -- like a new condemnation of the SSPX, or something similar.

In Christ,

Matthew

gilbertgea · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2007, 09:28:50 AM »

'I guess you have to place the emphasis on the RUMOR as you say, "much-rumored universal indult".'

Yes. How long have these rumours persisted?

'Even if the universal indult finally arrived, it wouldn't spell the end of the Crisis.'

My question is, even if the 'universal indult' does arrive, what priests will there be to celebrate the traditional Catholic Mass? How will they know what to do?

'Of course, more grace would start flowing and that would be good. But to end the Crisis, the Church will have to call a council to flush out modernism, etc. and modernism is HARDLY in its death-throes as it stands today! It will certainly not go down without a fight.'

If the Pope were to call a council, he would be calling a council of mostly Modernist bishops. Why would they wish to flush out Modernism?

'Perhaps God might grant the world the Chastisement it needs, to clean up the world and the Church. Not exactly a painless return to the 1950's! I don't think that modernism will go away without a horrible chastisement. What else do you think the Third Secret was about?'

The Third Secret mentions a bishop in white robes being shot down by soldiers with the clerics attending him. I think that could mean that the Pope will be αssαssιnαtҽd.

gilbertgea · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2007, 11:10:37 AM »

Trinity,

That is an excellent article. Do you have a URL for it, for reference?

God bless you.

gilbertgea · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2007, 11:41:53 AM »

I found it:

http://www.fatima.org/crusader/cr82/cr82pg11.asp

No, I havent read about OLoGS.

Pax tecuм.