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Offline Recusant Sede

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Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2018, 04:34:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on August 21, 2018, 10:41:51 PM
    All the people who call on her are her children.
    So, then you believe that Mary’s children are even those who reject her Son’s Church?
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #16 on: August 23, 2018, 11:48:06 PM »
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    The children of Mary are all those who are validly baptized, because by that means they are reborn in grace through her intercession.
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    Why would anyone call on the Blessed Virgin Mary while they reject Her Son's Church? Would those be impostors or frauds? 
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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #17 on: August 24, 2018, 11:32:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on August 23, 2018, 11:48:06 PM
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    The children of Mary are all those who are validly baptized, because by that means they are reborn in grace through her intercession.
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    Why would anyone call on the Blessed Virgin Mary while they reject Her Son's Church? Would those be impostors or frauds?
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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #18 on: August 24, 2018, 11:26:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Recusant Sede on August 22, 2018, 04:34:44 AM
    So, then you believe that Mary’s children are even those who reject her Son’s Church?
    I have seen the Holy Virgin do wonders for those who don't even know what is her Son's Church.
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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #19 on: August 25, 2018, 05:11:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on August 24, 2018, 11:26:48 PM
    I have seen the Holy Virgin do wonders for those who don't even know what is her Son's Church.
    So, according to you, those who she does “wonders” for are her children?
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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #20 on: August 25, 2018, 10:41:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Recusant Sede on August 25, 2018, 05:11:31 PM
    So, according to you, those who she does “wonders” for are her children?
    The Holy Virgin is the Queen of Heaven and Earth. That includes everybody.
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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #21 on: August 26, 2018, 04:09:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on August 25, 2018, 10:41:28 PM
    The Holy Virgin is the Queen of Heaven and Earth. That includes everybody.
    Can you give me a respected pre-VII theologian that supports that position?
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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #22 on: August 26, 2018, 10:30:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Recusant Sede on August 26, 2018, 04:09:30 AM
    Can you give me a respected pre-VII theologian that supports that position?
    The 15th decade of the rosary, Mary as Queen of Heaven and Earth. 
    If she is truly queen of all the earth then that includes everybody. Only those who reject her motherly love will be those who are truly lost. 
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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #23 on: August 27, 2018, 04:32:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on August 26, 2018, 10:30:15 PM
    The 15th decade of the rosary, Mary as Queen of Heaven and Earth.  
    If she is truly queen of all the earth then that includes everybody. Only those who reject her motherly love will be those who are truly lost.
    Is that supposed to be an argument?
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    Re: The Miracle of the Snakes
    « Reply #24 on: August 27, 2018, 08:38:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: Recusant Sede on August 27, 2018, 04:32:03 AM
    Is that supposed to be an argument?
    To say that the Holy Virgin is our mother is not an argument. It is part of a profession of faith.  
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