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Offline RomanCatholic1953

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The First Sunday of Advent 1964
« on: November 29, 2009, 03:20:15 PM »
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  • I was approaching  my 17th Birthday on the First Sunday of
    Advent 1964 on November 29, 1964.
    This is when the first changes took place such as the
    abolishing the prayers at the foot of the altar, and
    abolishing the last Gospel. A layman was allowed to read the
    Epistle, and in some churches, the table was placed in the
    Sanctuary to offer mass facing the people.
    I was lucky, the small Parish I was attending in San
    Bernardino,Ca. Still offer the 1962 revised Mass because there
    was not new enough liturgical books to go around. I was spared
    the changes into early 1965 when my priest received the
    new liturgical books, but was hesitant to use them. A
    liberal faction wanted the mass to be celebrated in the new
    way. However, there was a faction in which I belonged to
    want Mass said in the traditional way.  This is when factions
    over disagreement on the Liturgical changes, and later
    spread to other areas such as church teachings, and
    discapline. A compromise was made that new mass was said at
    9am, and the Traditional Mass said at 11:15AM. Today, this
    Parish is thoroughly Novus Ordo Cafeteria pick, and choose catholics. I never notice any factions of Catholics fighting
    among themselves until the liturgical changes. If Liberal,
    and Conservative, we never questioned Church doctrine, and
    teachings. It was unheard of among the laity in up to that
    First Sunday of Advent 45 years ago. This is when Catholics
    started to take sides. One side saw changes that were not
    even desired 6 months before, and wanted more. And a
    Traditional Faction whom wanted things as they were.
    The results have been a great falling out of Mass attendance,
    and a decline of belief of Church Teachings, and Doctrines.
    Vatican 2 changed many of the Traditional teachings of the
    Church, and if you are a Traditional Catholic, you just cannot
    attend a Novus Ordo Church. Instead fulfilling Mass
    obligations at St. Pius X and other  Traditional Catholic
    chapels.

    About 1969, I was entering St Matthew's Church, The
    Cathedral in Washington,DC. There was in the crowd Young
    Women about my age making fun of an elderly women
    because she was had a old missal she was bringing in to
    the new mass. The memory of this has been burned into
    my conscience,


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    The First Sunday of Advent 1964
    « Reply #1 on: November 29, 2009, 04:12:11 PM »
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  • Yep.  The Old Mass was kept by the old crowd in the tiny backwoods church of my grandparents for some time longer than other places.

    Then some time later, when they'd rebuilt the beautiful old church and the old people had passed away, they used the church as a dumping ground for bad priests.  Someone kept shooting at the windows.  

    Doing any such thing, ever doubting a priest was simply unheard of.  Tha family who worked for my family had a death, and the new priest wouldn't even come over and pray the Rosary with them.  It was simply unbelievable to them.  Mr. X cried when he told me this, and I choke up remembering this big strong man weeping.

    I was married in St. Mattew's Cathedral in a beautiful dress so modest it gave my future mother-in-law a total hissy fit!  LOL!  She offered to buy me a different one and a better bouquet than the Rosemary I carried in honor of the BVM. :laugh1:    So times have changed, hey?


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    The First Sunday of Advent 1964
    « Reply #2 on: November 29, 2009, 07:03:33 PM »
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  • I lived, and worked in DC from 1966 to 1970. My Parish Church
    was St. Dominic's, operated by the Dominican Fathers, and
    Brothers. I served Mass there.
    I remembered at that time, there was a High Mass sung in
    Latin at St Matthew's in the Traditional Rite.
    Other Parishes offered the Old Mass in Latin in the DC area.
    All offered on the table facing the people.
    I always attended Mass of Father Gomer DePaul when he
    came to town.
    I returned briefly in 2003, and revisited my old hauntings
    that are mostly intact.