Hello;

I've noticed that SSPX priests, including some "Resistance" priests, have changed their recital of the Indulgentium prayer after the Confiteor: they are now saying "Indulgentium, absolutionem, et remissionem peccatorem vestrorum, tribuat vobis omnipotens et misericors Dominus"; I also heard neither nostrorum (the correct word) nor vestrorum used, but the word skipped over completely.  Anyone have any idea why? It has been consistent for around 4-5 months...

I too wonder whether it's the second Confiteor, since by that time the priest has already received Holy Communion, nor did the priest recite the the Confiteor that second time ... and the "nostrorum" makes zero sense at that point.

If it's making it's way to the first Confiteor, that could be a mistake, due to just having used the second formula without thinking, and perhaps it spread somehow.

Can someone translate that for us so we understand?  We all are not fluent in latin.

Can someone translate that for us so we understand?  We all are not fluent in latin.

So, you can look up a quick translation in your Missal of the part that begins "Indulgentiam, absolutionem ..." after the Confiteor, at least the first one.

In brief, in the one after the first Confieteor, the priest says the equivalent of "may God forgive US OUR sins" (brief paraphrase)

OP says that his priest changed it to "may God forgive YOU YOUR sins" (again brief paraphrase), but then SimpleMan and I are thinking he heard the "YOU YOUR" in the SECOND Confiteor, not the first one.  If you look at the contexts of both, it does in fact make sense to use US/OUR the first time, because the priest also says the Confiteor, but then in the second one, he does not say it, and he's already received Holy Communion at that point, so it makes no sense to say "US / OUR" at that point.

If OP did hear a priest who said "US / OUR"  in the second one for a long time and then recently heard him change it to "YOU / YOUR", it could be that he had simply reiterated the first one without thinking about it, and then at some point he gave it some thought and realized he should change it to "YOU / YOUR'.  This is possible since the second one is informal and not actually in a lot of Missals.

So, you can look up a quick translation in your Missal of the part that begins "Indulgentiam, absolutionem ..." after the Confiteor, at least the first one.

In brief, in the one after the first Confieteor, the priest says the equivalent of "may God forgive US OUR sins" (brief paraphrase)

OP says that his priest changed it to "may God forgive YOU YOUR sins" (again brief paraphrase), but then SimpleMan and I are thinking he heard the "YOU YOUR" in the SECOND Confiteor, not the first one.  If you look at the contexts of both, it does in fact make sense to use US/OUR the first time, because the priest also says the Confiteor, but then in the second one, he does not say it, and he's already received Holy Communion at that point, so it makes no sense to say "US / OUR" at that point.

If OP did hear a priest who said "US / OUR"  in the second one for a long time and then recently heard him change it to "YOU / YOUR", it could be that he had simply reiterated the first one without thinking about it, and then at some point he gave it some thought and realized he should change it to "YOU / YOUR'.  This is possible since the second one is informal and not actually in a lot of Missals.

Thank you, much appreciated.

Hello;

I've noticed that SSPX priests, including some "Resistance" priests, have changed their recital of the Indulgentium prayer after the Confiteor: they are now saying "Indulgentium, absolutionem, et remissionem peccatorem vestrorum, tribuat vobis omnipotens et misericors Dominus"; I also heard neither nostrorum (the correct word) nor vestrorum used, but the word skipped over completely.  Anyone have any idea why? It has been consistent for around 4-5 months...

Another option is to ask the priest who is actually doing it, and not ask laymen on a forum who aren't doing it.

I'm sure priests are not too busy with trying to save souls to answer every question like this that might pop into soemone's head.  That's actually a good use of a forum like this, to spare priests their time when others might know the answer.  Question that OP never quite answered is whether he's talking about the first or the second confiteor, and if he doesn't know ... is it possible that there was no "change", but that he used to pay attention to the first one and now he's looking at the second.  If in both cases it's the second, and there was in fact a change, there's a pretty solid explanation for how that could have happened, where a priests realized that the "we" form doesn't make sense in the second confiteor and corrected that.

It's still an option and a pretty good one considering how many on these forums take these occasions to cut down the clergy.