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Re: Telling
« Reply #80 on: Yesterday at 09:13:31 AM »
I made no diagnosis, yet you repeatedly claimed that I made a "diagnosis."

Having repeatedly linked my actual posts, none of which make a diagnosis, you continue to lie.
diagnosis /dī″əg-nō′sĭs/

noun
  • The act or process of identifying or determining the nature and cause of a disease or injury through evaluation of patient history, examination, and review of laboratory data.
  • The opinion derived from such an evaluation.
  • A critical analysis of the nature of something.


Have you always had a problem with attempting to diagnose others, but not yourself?

You continue yourself to behave abnormally here: diagnosing others, yet claiming you are not diagnosing, calling people liars when no lies were told. 

Itemizing, identifying, listing in fine detail, categorizing, qualifying, sorting, arranging, grouping, ranking, distinguishing, the behavior of others in an amazing amount of obsessive-compulsive detailattempting to promote yourself as a "diagnoser of problems" then castigating and attempting to get others banned from the site FOR NO GOOD REASON.

It is you who is behaving like both a lunatic and a hypocrite here.   

It is you who is spreading falsehoods about others, exaggerating their perceived "faults".    

And it is you who will not examine his own behavior in light all of the above.

You are waaay out of line, out of your lane, and out of your purview. 

Good day sir. 

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Telling
« Reply #81 on: Yesterday at 11:17:53 AM »
Like I said, this forum has become basically a clearinghouse for loonies.

Literally the blurb in the subtitle of the forum says, "A message board for sspx, resistance, and other traditional Catholics...."

Which means that there might - theoretically -- be more than one type of trad here.

I know that might sound shocking to you... 
No, OS, this is not true. Nishant/Xavier/Telling's preaching was not traditional because with nearly every post, he was pulling for the Novus Ordo, or directing whomever possible towards the NO as acceptable or necessary. This was what he did, which is what many (not all) devout or dedicated Indulters do. That's ultimately what got him banned, repeatedly.

I could post dozens of quotes from him with his various NO endorsements, like "Pope St. John Paul II" and his "Ordinary Form" bs. That is a NOer who is purposely masquerading as a trad.    


Re: Telling
« Reply #82 on: Today at 08:20:00 AM »
No, OS, this is not true. Nishant/Xavier/Telling's preaching was not traditional because with nearly every post, he was pulling for the Novus Ordo, or directing whomever possible towards the NO as acceptable or necessary. This was what he did, which is what many (not all) devout or dedicated Indulters do. That's ultimately what got him banned, repeatedly.

I could post dozens of quotes from him with his various NO endorsements, like "Pope St. John Paul II" and his "Ordinary Form" bs. That is a NOer who is purposely masquerading as a trad.   
Okay.   Thank you for simply posting the facts.    That makes a lot more sense now why he would be banned.

(not sure why other posters felt need to spiral into negative epithets about it)

Alas, this then makes more sense why he would be banned, if he was actually NO posing as trad.

Offline Mark 79

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Re: Telling
« Reply #83 on: Today at 01:39:52 PM »
diagnosis /dī″əg-nō′sĭs/

noun
  • The act or process of identifying or determining the nature and cause of a disease or injury through evaluation of patient history, examination, and review of laboratory data.
  • The opinion derived from such an evaluation.
  • A critical analysis of the nature of something.


Have you always had a problem with attempting to diagnose others, but not yourself?

You continue yourself to behave abnormally here: diagnosing others, yet claiming you are not diagnosing, calling people liars when no lies were told.

Itemizing, identifying, listing in fine detail, categorizing, qualifying, sorting, arranging, grouping, ranking, distinguishing, the behavior of others in an amazing amount of obsessive-compulsive detail [hypocrite!], attempting to promote yourself as a "diagnoser of problems" then castigating and attempting to get others banned from the site FOR NO GOOD REASON.

It is you who is behaving like both a lunatic and a hypocrite here

It is you who is spreading falsehoods about others, exaggerating their perceived "faults".   

And it is you who will not examine his own behavior in light all of the above.

You are waaay out of line, out of your lane, and out of your purview.

Good day sir.

In order to distract readers from your serial lying, you conflate things that are significantly different.

Observed behavior or bodily sensation is a symptom, not a diagnosis.

When one observes a behavior or experiences a body sensation it is a fact.

The constellation of history, chief complaint, symptoms plus an exam plus any relevant lab or imaging is then considered.

With the requisite knowledge, training, and experience the observations are then ordered into a "differential diagnosis", a ranked set of possibilities.

Only after the stepped process does a rational person select the most likely explanation  as a "diagnosis."

"Consider" the definition that you provided: "…process…through evaluation of patient history, examination, and review of laboratory data.…derived from such an evaluation"

The individual elements of the process are not the diagnosis.

The symptom is not a diagnosis.

The history is not a diagnosis.

The consideration is not a diagnosis.

It is the full process that leads to a diagnosis. 

I mentioned only elements observed to be "considered," a cyclicity, and never claimed to perform the complete process and so I never reached or offered a diagnosis. You are the one "way out of your lane."

You are indeed an ignoranus and a liar and a hypocrite.

You seem to hint that diagnosis may be in your "lane." If so, you are an incompetent diagnostician.