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Offline Miseremini

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St. Teresa of Avilla picture.
« on: May 26, 2025, 10:57:24 AM »
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    Re: St. Teresa of Avilla picture.
    « Reply #1 on: May 26, 2025, 11:10:25 AM »
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    • I do wish they'd stop with this nonsense (in quote below), constantly emphasizing physical beauty.  Who cares?
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    "In her youth, she had a reputation for being very beautiful, and until her last age, she showed herself to be so; her face was not at all common but extraordinary, and of a type that cannot be called round or aquiline, the thirds being equal, the forehead broad and even, and very beautiful."

    That above was written by a female, for whom evidently it doesn't suffice that someone have a beautiful soul, which is all that matters.
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    Re: St. Teresa of Avilla picture.
    « Reply #2 on: May 26, 2025, 02:25:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 26, 2025, 11:10:25 AM
    I do wish they'd stop with this nonsense (in quote below), constantly emphasizing physical beauty.  Who cares?
    That above was written by a female, for whom evidently it doesn't suffice that someone have a beautiful soul, which is all that matters.
    Why take the quote out of context... she was obviously trying to describe the physical features, perhaps to a painter...we don't know, maybe her quote was taken out of context where she went on to describe her spiritual beauty.
    The point of the article is that they forensically tried to reproduce her image.  We already know about her spirituality.
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    Re: St. Teresa of Avilla picture.
    « Reply #3 on: May 26, 2025, 05:17:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 26, 2025, 11:10:25 AM
    I do wish they'd stop with this nonsense (in quote below), constantly emphasizing physical beauty.  Who cares?
    That above was written by a female, for whom evidently it doesn't suffice that someone have a beautiful soul, which is all that matters.
    100% agreed. This is what bothered me about St Therese of Lisieux and her book The Story of a Soul, which she wrote it uder obedience to her confessor. It opens with her bragging about what a beautiful child she was. How can these be the words of a saint? 
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    Re: St. Teresa of Avilla picture.
    « Reply #4 on: May 26, 2025, 07:53:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on May 26, 2025, 05:17:15 PM
    100% agreed. This is what bothered me about St Therese of Lisieux and her book The Story of a Soul, which she wrote it uder obedience to her confessor. It opens with her bragging about what a beautiful child she was. How can these be the words of a saint?

    I recall nothing along those lines in her Autobiography.  I'm fairly certain you're thinking of how her SISTERS (as in blood sisters) described her, which is often thrown in as a prologue to the actual Story of a Soul.  I believe Pauline in particular went out of her way to remark about it, and I also recall those comments.  She in fact help compile "Story of a Soul".

    EDIT:  I just skimmed the early parts of it and asked for AI to find anything in there about her own beautify, and it couldn't find anything of note.
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    Re: St. Teresa of Avilla picture.
    « Reply #5 on: May 26, 2025, 07:54:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on May 26, 2025, 02:25:51 PM
    Why take the quote out of context... she was obviously trying to describe the physical features, perhaps to a painter...we don't know, maybe her quote was taken out of context where she went on to describe her spiritual beauty.
    The point of the article is that they forensically tried to reproduce her image.  We already know about her spirituality.

    No.  That quote wasn't just a passing mention, but went on and on about her physical beauty.  Ridiculous.
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    Re: St. Teresa of Avilla picture.
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 26, 2025, 11:10:25 AM
    That above was written by a female, for whom evidently it doesn't suffice that someone have a beautiful soul, which is all that matters.
    Are you a Manichean dualist? Humans are body+soul composites. Yes, the soul is more important, but we're not angelists, thinking the body has no value.

    Look at this description of St. Dominic by Sr. Cecilia (ch. 4 of her The Legend of St. Dominic in Lives of the Brethren):
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    THIS was St Dominic's appearance. He was of middle height and slender figure, of handsome and somewhat ruddy countenance, his hair and beard of auburn, and with lustrous eyes. From out his forehead and between his eye brows a radiant light shone forth, which drew everyone to revere and love him. He was always joyous and cheerful, except when moved to compassion at anyone's sorrows. His hands were beautiful and tapering; his voice was clear, noble, and musical; he was never bald, but kept his religious tonsure entire, mingled here and there with a few grey hairs.

    The art of describing someone's appearance with words, so prevalent in classic literature, has been lost nowadays.
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