Author Topic: St. Margaret Mary...was she really a saint? (Read 3469 times)

Elizabeth · « **Reply #10 on:** July 04, 2009, 11:09:42 AM »

Oops, I did a poor job of trying to compare Uriel's opinion of St. Margaret Mary being mentally ill with St. Francis.

I was trying to say that if you think St. Margaret Mary is crazy and not a Saint for all eternity, if you think you don't need to believe in the Saints, then for "crazy" by Worldly standards will describe St. Francis.

St. Margaret Mary, pray for us.

Alex · « **Reply #11 on:** July 04, 2009, 03:51:00 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Well why leave St. Francis out of it? He was really into fires, and he talked to animals and apparently loved it when people were horrible toward him.

Isn't Uriel the name of a fallen angel? I seem to recall...

The archangel Uriel is NOT mentioned in the Catholic Bible. He is mentioned in the Apocryphal Jєωιѕн books, such as the Book of Enoch and Books of Esdras.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #12 on:** July 04, 2009, 05:03:50 PM »

1 and 2 Esdras are in the Catholic canon of the Bible.

Enoch is not.

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2009, 02:41:45 AM »

There is a real issue here. I will make use of an analogy:

When someone wants to preach about marriage, he doesn't speak about it's hard side: washing tones of dishes, chance of being a widow(er), chance of losing a child, doing laundry, quarreling etc. etc. He just speaks about romance, love and perfumed red roses. in order to attract you to this sacrament. IT IS ALSO THE CASE WITH OUR FAITH:

Our Holy Religion, specially it's mystical/ascetical aspect may be scandalous and shocking to many people, it is why many preachers do their best to hide these aspects. Lest men should be shocked.

Once I posted some thing on this forum about St. Ludwina's actions. People told me that it was wrong and a malarkey. However that incident was recorded in her biography.

Predestination and repobration too, are matters of faith. Yet I saw that priests are tend to avoid answering people's question about repobration. They are good willed, they are afraid lest someone succombe to despair and defidence after hearing about it.

Saints have done many things that we may call crazy. Some of them used an erotic language when speaking about our Lord, though you may think it blasphemous. Some of them really acted like a puritan, hating the world their body and avoiding any pleasure.

When catholic pastors avoid talking about this matters, they are just giving an apportunity to atheists to say :" Look the church is hiding this from you" ," come and see what they are hidding from you for 2000 years."

It is like what I said about marriage.

If you want to attract people to any thing, don't speak about it's hard to accept aspects!

Dylan · « **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:01:15 AM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

1 and 2 Esdras are in the Catholic canon of the Bible.

Enoch is not.

That's true. 1 and 2 Esdras, though, have been renamed in the English-speaking world as Ezra and Nehemiah. I believe that the books that Alex is referring to are commonly referred to as 1 and 2 Esdras as well, but are also called 3 and 4 Esdras or Ezra.